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GalmTwo #1 Posted 05 August 2017 - 03:40 PM

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Perhaps I'll sound whiny here, but why is my WR so wierd? It's like, I get a few good matchups and then for no reason keep getting bad teams that all rush one side or suicide at the start. It has been happening for a while now, since I got the Škoda T50 at tier 9. Some of the matches, I can take the blame for losing, because of poor concentration on my end or just lack of sleep or something, but this is just unusual. 

Or maybe all of this is just normal and I'm supposed to be stuck at 49% winrate forever?

Also, WR for my first T10 tank. I didn't play much battles in it, but the winrate is abysmal. 

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RamRaid90 #2 Posted 05 August 2017 - 03:50 PM

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Your stats show an overall steady increase, so you're improving. Even though in the short term it doesnt feel like it, over a longer period it will come up.

 

Even though your average tier played is six, your average damage per battle of 629 is realtively low. Focus on increasing this, but be aware that doing useful damage that will win games and farming damage from a useless position are very different things.

 

Also your average XP is fairly low, suggesting you're playing way too passively and not spotting your own targets at all. Try to play more aggressively at times. This is backed up by your average spots per game sitting at 0.8.

 

You're also not taking kill shots very often, destroying just over half a tank per game. Remember a tank with 1HP can cause just as much damage as a tank with 1000hp. ALWAYS remove guns from the battle where possible.



GalmTwo #3 Posted 05 August 2017 - 03:54 PM

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Thanks for the input Ram, appriciated. I will try to improve as much as I can.

lord_chipmonk #4 Posted 05 August 2017 - 04:30 PM

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Nope, not weird at all. Such fluctuations are to be expected. 

 

Edit: It looks like you're getting better, so keep it up!


Edited by lord_chipmonk, 05 August 2017 - 04:30 PM.


c0keb0ttle #5 Posted 05 August 2017 - 05:17 PM

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Remember that you are just 1 out of 30 people in each battle. The other 29 are completely random (unless you platoon, of course).

 

So unless you are a very good player and has a large impact on each game you play your stats will fluctuate almost randomly.

 



Kicky92 #6 Posted 05 August 2017 - 06:34 PM

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mines always up and down. but it does like to stay at 49.65%.

I mean, as soon as I get near 49.8% it will crash back down to 49.65% then back up, then back down, then back up, then back down.

 

Its highly frustrating considering ive been chasing 50% wins as a short term goal for about 2 years now.....

the only time it goes higher than 49.8% is when ive got prem account...... but I'm sure its just a coincidence.....



lord_chipmonk #7 Posted 05 August 2017 - 06:48 PM

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View PostKicky92, on 05 August 2017 - 06:34 PM, said:

the only time it goes higher than 49.8% is when ive got prem account...... but I'm sure its just a coincidence.....

 

First time I ever had a period of premium account, my win rate plummeted. 



anonym_kL7qtn3e52MB #8 Posted 06 August 2017 - 10:29 AM

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SS emblems are not allowed in WoT.

I'm talking about your clan's emblem of course.

 


Edited by Spek_en_Bonen, 06 August 2017 - 10:30 AM.


Aikl #9 Posted 06 August 2017 - 10:40 AM

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View PostKicky92, on 05 August 2017 - 05:34 PM, said:

mines always up and down. but it does like to stay at 49.65%.

I mean, as soon as I get near 49.8% it will crash back down to 49.65% then back up, then back down, then back up, then back down.

 

Its highly frustrating considering ive been chasing 50% wins as a short term goal for about 2 years now.....

the only time it goes higher than 49.8% is when ive got prem account...... but I'm sure its just a coincidence.....

 

If it helps, the average winrate isn't really 50% due to the amount of draws. It's 48-49% or something.

 

I suggest getting someone to look at your replays, or even look at them yourself.

Hard to tell what the exact problem is, but low survival rate, fair damage done and good average spotted/battle probably means that you're taking too many risks. Maybe you're commiting too much to positions where retreat isn't an option, and you can't support/be supported by your teammates?



malachi6 #10 Posted 06 August 2017 - 11:07 AM

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Vertical scale exaggeration is your biggest issue. You are looking at  a sub 0.2% variation in 2 months  If you can set the graph to show full scale. you will see a small upward change. 

HunterXHunter8 #11 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:05 PM

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mm tries  to make you stay around 50% winrate +/- 2-3%, anything higher you'll need to platoon up hardcore.  

 

ever had a day where you get 30-50 losses in a row?? well eventually mm will realize you're losing too much and start putting you on good teams. 



GalmTwo #12 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:10 PM

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View PostHunterXHunter8, on 06 August 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

ever had a day where you get 30-50 losses in a row??

I lost around 19 battles in a row today :c



ITALUX #13 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:23 PM

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Don't worry about the fluctuations. Even good players have them and it's mainly caused by the random match making and random teammates. The important part is that slowly you go up with it. But, most important of all, have fun, even if you lose! 

Suurpolskija #14 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:29 PM

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Sometimes you can play like a wargod and end up losing more than winning. Sometimes you can drive your Crommy to a lake in the beginning and still win. It's a team game with a lot of random variables.

GalmTwo #15 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:29 PM

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View PostSpek_en_Bonen, on 06 August 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

SS emblems are not allowed in WoT.

I'm talking about your clan's emblem of course.

 

 

Say that to our clan commander :/ 

He got perma-banned, serves him right :teethhappy:

 

/s


Edited by GalmTwo, 06 August 2017 - 07:52 PM.


Balc0ra #16 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:37 PM

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It's your nick I tell ya,  if you took it after Pixy, you had it coming :P Or are you a PJ man?

 

Either way, we all have our cursed tanks. Even if our overall WR is higher, we do get grinds stuck at sub 49% that jumps all over the place. Mine is the WZ-132A atm. Others have cursed tiers that will forever screw with them. So if you feel it's just the one, well it's happened to all of us at some point. My worst one was the T54E1 that was stuck on a sub 40% WR after 100 games. Somehow I got the luck back in it tho.

 

Find your sweet spot. Find your good charms and play those between all the bad luck. I see you do rather well on mid tier mediums, like the Russian premiums or even the tier 5/6 HT's vs the rest. If you find you lack concentration, awareness or anything to do your part on tier 9 etc. Then drop down and find some luck again. No shame in that. As I do it all the time. Usually helps with some mid tier fun now and then vs a constant grind higher up. 

 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 06 August 2017 - 07:38 PM.


GalmTwo #17 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:43 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 06 August 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

It's your nick I tell ya,  if you took it after Pixy, you had it coming :P Or are you a PJ man?

 

 

Dammit, should've chosen Mobius One ;)

 

View PostBalc0ra, on 06 August 2017 - 08:37 PM, said:

Either way, we all have our cursed tanks. Even if our overall WR is higher, we do get grinds stuck at sub 49% that jumps all over the place. Mine is the WZ-132A atm. Others have cursed tiers that will forever screw with them. So if you feel it's just the one, well it's happened to all of us at some point. My worst one was the T54E1 that was stuck on a sub 40% WR after 100 games. Somehow I got the luck back in it tho.

 

 

Seems my TVP is a cursed tank. 150 battles, 39% WR. Really infuriating. I guess tier 6 and 5 are my ideal tiers, that I prolly belong in.



psychobear #18 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:50 PM

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View PostHunterXHunter8, on 06 August 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

mm tries  to make you stay around 50% winrate +/- 2-3%, anything higher you'll need to platoon up hardcore.  

 

ever had a day where you get 30-50 losses in a row?? well eventually mm will realize you're losing too much and start putting you on good teams. 

 

Which ironically is the definition of "completely random". WG style, of course.

Balc0ra #19 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:50 PM

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View PostGalmTwo, on 06 August 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

 

Dammit, should've chosen Mobius One ;)

 

Well... he was a "bad guy" in the same game to.. kinda. If you played on Ace and took down Espada in less then a min in the gauntlet, he came after you. I hated him.

sgtYester #20 Posted 06 August 2017 - 08:48 PM

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there are "barriers" build in into the game 

 

so at certain points u have a winrate that u cant get past and only after a lucky streak u go over it untill u hit the next one.

 

its all a way of wg to balance the players.

 

just like the bad rng u get when u shoot at red players






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