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The ARL V39 - One slight buff suggestion

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CircleOfSorrow #1 Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:06 AM

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The ARL V39 is simply a blast to play.  I love it.  I like the total lack of armour, which affords decent mobility.  I like the tier 8 gun, even if it spends entire matches aiming due to the narrow arc.  I like the stealth factor, which allows me to sit in the one lonely and obvious bush that WG has left on most maps.  There is one thing that I really don't like though;

 

I would suggest buffing the turret armour to 250mm effective.  Please have mercy WG.  This thing not only has a turret with no functional use (to me), it protrudes in such a manner that enemies shoot me over ridgelines that I can't even see over.  Let the ARL V39 players at least have some fun at the expense of those that treat this vehicle like a shooting gallery mini game.  I'm surprised a bullseye isn't painted on the god-damned thing.

 

Oh, and this is what happens when I finally have a decent game;

 

Spoiler

Yep...Tier 6 PoS in a tier 8 match...this tank is cursed :\


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Spurtung #2 Posted 08 August 2017 - 09:42 AM

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Isn't it funny that only now* are people realizing how bad this line is?

 

 

 

* Now, as in, a lot people is grinding the line for the freebie, when everyone else that did the grind before sucked up in relative silence.



1ucky #3 Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:01 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 08 August 2017 - 09:42 AM, said:

Isn't it funny that only now* are people realizing how bad this line is?

 

 

 

* Now, as in, a lot people is grinding the line for the freebie, when everyone else that did the grind before sucked up in relative silence.

Yes, such a coincidence!

 

Wouldn't amaze me though if it was the same thing with many other underpowered tanks...

If there's no interesting Tier 10 as a reward to it, people just aren't going to grind respective lines.



IncandescentGerbil #4 Posted 08 August 2017 - 10:16 AM

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The ac48 is less fun to play. Enjoy!

NervosCuNervii #5 Posted 08 August 2017 - 11:24 AM

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I managed to grind the ARL V39 a few years ago and it wasn't that bad. Sure, I've always felt like an idiot for driving a tank that has a turret on top that's facing backwards... felt like the guy in the turret is a noob that shows the back to the guns!

Anyway, the ARL still has good enough guns to pull its weight. That thing ends at the current tier 7, which is mediocre but has good depression as a reedeming feature and the 90mm gun that can shoot at ~6 seconds.
Tier 8... well, it's bad no matter how you look at it. The true credit sink of the line. Here's hope that the autoloader it will get will pull it from the pit.

The whole line looks like it would do a whole lot better with the T29 treatment (bunny ears not counting as a hitbox) and thus get rid of the pants on head weakspot.

Balc0ra #6 Posted 08 August 2017 - 11:31 AM

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I could agree on buffing the rear turret on the tier 8, and removing the loader for it that they don't need. But this? Might as well buff the M3 Lee turret to 200mm to then.

 

The turret was the least of my issues with it when I played it. Don't get me wrong. I actually did not hate the tank as much as most. The biggest beef I had with it, was how low the gun is above the ground at times vs that thing on top.



Spurtung #7 Posted 08 August 2017 - 11:51 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 08 August 2017 - 12:31 PM, said:

I could agree on buffing the rear turret on the tier 8

True, child safety first. That baby seat needs to be stronger.



CircleOfSorrow #8 Posted 08 August 2017 - 12:05 PM

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This truly is soul-crushingly bad.  I think I need to look at some replays for tips :\  

magkiln #9 Posted 08 August 2017 - 12:26 PM

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Alternative suggestion: Remove this turd from the tech tree, give the ELC AMX it's old gun back and call it a TD (which is what it historically was), and get a new tier 5 french LT.

Search_Warrant #10 Posted 08 August 2017 - 04:07 PM

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And notice how WG only buff the tier 8+. yet the whole line except tier 5 is trash.

lord_chipmonk #11 Posted 08 August 2017 - 04:07 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 08 August 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

And notice how WG only buff the tier 8+. yet the whole line except tier 5 is trash.

 

Ofc. 

SABAOTH #12 Posted 08 August 2017 - 04:22 PM

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OH I remember that thing. Horrible memories. :trollface:

PowJay #13 Posted 08 August 2017 - 04:40 PM

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I won 57 of my 100 battles in the ARL V 39. I first of all considered keeping it for a while, but worse than that: I recently considered buying it back, but my performance in it is not that good.

 

So I decided to buy back the S35 CA instead. I haven't played it as I want half-price crew training. It will come- by Christmas if not before.

 

Nothing could persuade me to continue the line after the AMX AC 46, however.



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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 08 August 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

And notice how WG only buff the tier 8+. yet the whole line except tier 5 is trash.

 

Tbh I'd rather have Wargaming balance tanks that I'm actually going to play for a while first instead of the ones that need 10-20 games to grind through.

IncandescentGerbil #15 Posted 08 August 2017 - 07:31 PM

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View PostPowJay, on 08 August 2017 - 04:40 PM, said:

I won 57 of my 100 battles in the ARL V 39. I first of all considered keeping it for a while, but worse than that: I recently considered buying it back, but my performance in it is not that good.

 

So I decided to buy back the S35 CA instead. I haven't played it as I want half-price crew training. It will come- by Christmas if not before.

 

Nothing could persuade me to continue the line after the AMX AC 46, however.

If I cared about my stats I'd be suicidal right now. I don't really like TDs at the best of times, but the AC48 is hideous. Seriously regret starting this grind, just to get a free tank at the end of it... But now I've started my OCD won't let me stop...



CircleOfSorrow #16 Posted 08 August 2017 - 08:50 PM

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View PostIncandescentGerbil, on 08 August 2017 - 06:31 PM, said:

If I cared about my stats I'd be suicidal right now. I don't really like TDs at the best of times, but the AC48 is hideous. Seriously regret starting this grind, just to get a free tank at the end of it... But now I've started my OCD won't let me stop...

 

Yeah, same :/

 

And with my luck I'll just be about to reach tier X and 9.20 will drop T_T



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View PostBalc0ra, on 08 August 2017 - 11:31 AM, said:

I could agree on buffing the rear turret on the tier 8, and removing the loader for it that they don't need. But this? Might as well buff the M3 Lee turret to 200mm to then.

 

The turret was the least of my issues with it when I played it. Don't get me wrong. I actually did not hate the tank as much as most. The biggest beef I had with it, was how low the gun is above the ground at times vs that thing on top.

Umm...

The Tier 8 has 2 gunners, not 2 loaders. :)

 

But yeah, the Tier 6...

Cuppola or not, back in the day when I played it, it was actually not too bad.

Considering it's a freaking turretless TD, what kind of awesomeness do people expect? :P



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It should be buffed.

 

Just like the Church GC, G1R, AMX M4 45, M3 Grant/Lee, Valentine AT, M7 and many more tanks under T8, that were left unchanged since release, while everything else around them got patched and buffed and nerfed and evolved.

Excluding the old KV-1s. That thing was awful and deserved the nerf it got.



CircleOfSorrow #19 Posted 09 August 2017 - 07:17 AM

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View Post1ucky, on 08 August 2017 - 08:00 PM, said:

Umm...

The Tier 8 has 2 gunners, not 2 loaders. :)

 

But yeah, the Tier 6...

Cuppola or not, back in the day when I played it, it was actually not too bad.

Considering it's a freaking turretless TD, what kind of awesomeness do people expect? :P

 

Well, ISU-152 levels of badass would be nice.  Even Tortoise with it's DPM can perform.  The tank has so little going for it.



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I suspect that them (mainly) buffing some tiers is due to the +/- 2 MM, that highlights the differences between the tiers. However, it will inevitably lead to the lower tiers getting their buffs as well as you cannot buff a certain tier in order to make it competitive when fighting in +2 matches while not making it harder to beat by the -2 it meets.
What I'm trying to say is that the ARL v39 (and many other tanks like it) will get its buffs some time, after tier 6 will get wrecked by the buffed, overbuffed or new tier 8's that seem to be waiting down the line.





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