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QuintusLentulusBatiatus7 #1 Posted 09 August 2017 - 01:40 AM

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I don't know how many times the hetzer was nerfed to this day, but I think it should be nerfed again.

It's very mobile, very easily concealed, and its 10.5 cm "Troll Gun" can one-shot many tier IV tanks.

 

My suggestion would be to nerf the damage output of the 10.5 cm cannon, and reduce the traverse speed just a little bit.

 

Please consider my suggestion in regards to nerf the Hetzer.

 

 

 



Balc0ra #2 Posted 09 August 2017 - 01:49 AM

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So the other tier 4 derp TD's with 350 to 410 alpha is not an issue? It's just this one? Well I'm sure WG will sort that out if it's just the one. As the only thing the Hetzer has above the others is the effective armor. Camo and mobility is on pair or better on the others. Heck even the French tier 4 TD has more DPM vs the Hetzer with full derp HE.

Edited by Balc0ra, 09 August 2017 - 01:52 AM.


Warzey #3 Posted 09 August 2017 - 02:30 AM

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Correct me if I'm wrong but there are quite a few T4 TDs with identical 10,5 cm derp gun. So, what exactly is a problem with specifically Hetzers gun and not with other TDs armed with a similar gun?

I can't deny that Hetzer has an armor advantage over other TDs, but in mobility department it's really nothing special. 



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View PostWarzey, on 09 August 2017 - 01:30 AM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but there are quite a few T4 TDs with identical 10,5 cm derp gun. So, what exactly is a problem with specifically Hetzers gun and not with other TDs armed with a similar gun?

I can't deny that Hetzer has an armor advantage over other TDs, but in mobility department it's really nothing special. 

 

It's also blind as a bat. Give me my Stug B any day over it.



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View PostWarzey, on 09 August 2017 - 02:30 AM, said:

Correct me if I'm wrong but there are quite a few T4 TDs with identical 10,5 cm derp gun. So, what exactly is a problem with specifically Hetzers gun and not with other TDs armed with a similar gun?

I can't deny that Hetzer has an armor advantage over other TDs, but in mobility department it's really nothing special. 

 

Because Hatzers gonna hatez. :hiding:

EltvilleTiger #6 Posted 09 August 2017 - 06:57 AM

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Sounds like OP was owned by a Hetzer... lol.  

 

You've seen the above arguments.  The gun is a troll gun but I do better with the normal gun (just my opinion).. mobility is meh, camo is ok, armor is good.  it is an average TD in that tier.  Stop giving the enemy a good target and you'll do better... no nerfs required.



CircleOfSorrow #7 Posted 09 August 2017 - 07:13 AM

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I miss the days when down-voting a comment was an option.

jack_timber #8 Posted 09 August 2017 - 07:59 AM

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Faced Hetzer countless times, quite enjoy a blast in SU85B, always a ' hard nut' to crack but OP no.

 



Merton15 #9 Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:10 AM

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It's good, but the SU85B will out view it by 50m, is more mobile, will pen it with ease and 2 shot it with twice the rate of fire from a much more accurate gun. The SU is also a threat to T6. Heck I would rather have the Marder 38T. 60m view range advantage, 19+rpm, mobility better and accuracy better. Without spotters the Hetzer is likely to lose against either TD.

TungstenHitman #10 Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:08 AM

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View PostQuintusLentulusBatiatus7, on 09 August 2017 - 12:40 AM, said:

I don't know how many times the hetzer was nerfed to this day, but I think it should be nerfed again.

It's very mobile, very easily concealed, and its 10.5 cm "Troll Gun" can one-shot many tier IV tanks.

 

My suggestion would be to nerf the damage output of the 10.5 cm cannon, and reduce the traverse speed just a little bit.

 

Please consider my suggestion in regards to nerf the Hetzer.

 

 

 

 

It's very mobile? the Hetzer makes a KV1 look like a light tank such is it's lack of mobility, one of the worst in the game. A Hetzer (of which I am a regular user) can sometimes get absolutely nothing in a battle such is it's lack of engine power and mobility. It has a really fun derp gun and a bouncy upper plate vs some tiers but that's about it. the camo is excellent but since it has probably the worst view range in the game so what you gain in camo you more than lose in view range but I just really like it anyway since the derp can annoy any tanks including tier6 Jap heavies.. it won't often kill a tier6 Jap heavy but it will break all their modules and crew with a HE battering several times lol.. leaving it open for more capable tanks to finish off.

 

I actually think the HE derp has been heavily nerfed recently. I am not noticing the 1 shot kill happening anywhere as much even vs paper tanks. I use to be able to 1 shot T67 stat padders and pretty much any paper tank but now this rarely happens and I only get some lame 120 average damage. Anyone else notice that? I mean it's at the point it ain't really fun to play anymore



Unkel_Dolan #11 Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:32 AM

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of course hetzer is OP. strong frontal armor, good camo, slow top speed but enough traverse speed to counter a circling luchs, and one-shot cannon. 

when tier 4 3v3 tournaments still existed there was a hetzer in practically every team. one time a team mate and me had to play CW and had to miss a tournament round, but our 3rd guy brought a hetzer and won 1v3



Laatikkomafia #12 Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:17 AM

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Now this is a new!

 

His most played TD is the Hetzer, yet he wants it to be nerfed :thinking



Derethim #13 Posted 09 August 2017 - 04:50 PM

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We are lucky the ingame Hetzer isn't like it's real-life counterpart - top speed 42 KPH.

 

Atlough they could nerf it by removing the 105mm from the free hetz, then buffing the old credit-hetzer by adding it's real life speed and a better engine - now you'd have to use the 75mm PAK 39 L/48 and you'd have a fast bush kemp td with a bit less frontal armor.

The Jagdpanzer 38t "105mm" could be a premium, with the first engine, so it would be even slower and a premium derp and maybe it's original real-life brown camo.

 


Edited by Derethim, 09 August 2017 - 04:51 PM.


RaxipIx #14 Posted 09 August 2017 - 05:21 PM

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Su-85B can eat tier 6 tanks alive. It has camo, speed, ROG, Alpha, and a very high pen gun for the tier. Hetzer is  a potato tank compared to it.

 



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Stug IIIB is better.

Enforcer1975 #16 Posted 09 August 2017 - 06:37 PM

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View PostQuintusLentulusBatiatus7, on 09 August 2017 - 01:40 AM, said:

I don't know how many times the hetzer was nerfed to this day, but I think it should be nerfed again.

It's very mobile, very easily concealed, and its 10.5 cm "Troll Gun" can one-shot many tier IV tanks.

 

My suggestion would be to nerf the damage output of the 10.5 cm cannon, and reduce the traverse speed just a little bit.

 

Please consider my suggestion in regards to nerf the Hetzer.

 

 

 

 

View PostBalc0ra, on 09 August 2017 - 01:49 AM, said:

So the other tier 4 derp TD's with 350 to 410 alpha is not an issue? It's just this one? Well I'm sure WG will sort that out if it's just the one. As the only thing the Hetzer has above the others is the effective armor. Camo and mobility is on pair or better on the others. Heck even the French tier 4 TD has more DPM vs the Hetzer with full derp HE.

 

Derps in tier 4-5 are the main problem here. They just have to be removed along with some tanks that didn't actually have them listed as a variant.

Edited by Enforcer1975, 09 August 2017 - 06:37 PM.





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