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Bora_BOOM #1 Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:27 AM

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I know this is Circon playing, and its not implemented yet - but damn!

Something is to be fixed IMHO.

 



sgtYester #2 Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:52 AM

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yeah, its needs a buff and some model rework so its not an excact copy of the 155 

Pantzer #3 Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:00 PM

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buff? no....

 

If the remove 1 shot from the clip and gives it 2,2 sec reload between shots then it would be fine. The reload on the clip is already super good.



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Some people can own in just about anything.

 

Only reason any of that was possible is cause NO ONE was afraid of Foch B.

Comon, those of you who play, for example, JagD E100, can you damage someone every time you have reloaded and every game?

People went into his target to snap shot and probly didnt care about single 750 or something like that, but got eaten to shreds by new autoloader...

Specially since Foch 155 is known to hit moon instead of target...

 

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and its test. people test stuff there and term "strategy" doesnt apply there.

 

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View PostsgtYester, on 09 August 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

yeah, its needs a buff and some model rework so its not an excact copy of the 155 

 

I never say no to buff for tanks i own... :trollface:
 

brumbarr #5 Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:04 PM

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View PostsgtYester, on 09 August 2017 - 11:52 AM, said:

yeah, its needs a buff and some model rework so its not an excact copy of the 155 

 

a buff? aylmao, what are you smoking?

sgtYester #6 Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:06 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 09 August 2017 - 12:04 PM, said:

 

a buff? aylmao, what are you smoking?

 

i am from holland. .......

tajj7 #7 Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:07 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 09 August 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

 

a buff? aylmao, what are you smoking?

 

I honestly wouldn't put it past WG, we all saw what happened to the Maus on test, was completely OP, let's give it 200 more HP cos reasons.

 

Whilst this tank should change, I can't see anything happening, the common test barely brings many changes. We'll probably have to wait a year for this tank to get the change it needs.

 

 



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View Posttajj7, on 09 August 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

 

I honestly wouldn't put it past WG, we all saw what happened to the Maus on test, was completely OP, let's give it 200 more HP cos reasons.

 

Whilst this tank should change, I can't see anything happening, the common test barely brings many changes. We'll probably have to wait a year for this tank to get the change it needs.

 

 

 

THe kranvagn got significant good changes in the test server.

AvengerOrion #9 Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:11 PM

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Oh look, it's the new WTF E100.

The previous one was removed for no reason eh WG?



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View Posttajj7, on 09 August 2017 - 12:07 PM, said:

 

I honestly wouldn't put it past WG, we all saw what happened to the Maus on test, was completely OP, let's give it 200 more HP cos reasons.

 

Whilst this tank should change, I can't see anything happening, the common test barely brings many changes. We'll probably have to wait a year for this tank to get the change it needs.

 

 

 

how else are they gonna get ppl to grind that horrible line?

wg is hoping for a lot of ppl to just buy gold to free xp that line. its to me the only reason they are changing the tier 10



HundeWurst #11 Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:15 PM

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So tanks get removed because they have to much clip potential. Yet Wargaming keeps on releasing new tanks with stupidly high clip damage.

 

Makes sense when you are Wargaming....



Bora_BOOM #12 Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:19 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 09 August 2017 - 11:07 AM, said:

 

I honestly wouldn't put it past WG, we all saw what happened to the Maus on test, was completely OP, let's give it 200 more HP cos reasons.

 

Whilst this tank should change, I can't see anything happening, the common test barely brings many changes. We'll probably have to wait a year for this tank to get the change it needs.

 

 

That’s what I think too.

 

View PostAvengerOrion, on 09 August 2017 - 11:11 AM, said:

Oh look, it's the new WTF E100.

The previous one was removed for no reason eh WG?

 

Exactly what ppl say in Twitch chat.

 

My opinion is that no tank should be able to clip a full hp heavy from its tier. Simple.



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View PostWunderWurst, on 09 August 2017 - 12:15 PM, said:

So tanks get removed because they have to much clip potential. Yet Wargaming keeps on releasing new tanks with stupidly high clip damage.

 

Makes sense when you are Wargaming....

 

WG only buffs and nerfs tanks to make people grind the lines that are otherwise not played much. Now it's French TDs' time to shine.

 

When people grind new lines, they spend gold to free XP and premium time/tanks to fund the tanks. Makes perfect sense for WG.

 

EDIT: Besides if you mean WT E100, it isn't even removed from game... https://tanks.gg/v09...k/wt-e-100-p... it's right there.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 09 August 2017 - 12:43 PM.


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My bet is it that it will be nerfed after 3-4 months. It happened before with lots of tanks, it will happen again.

This Foch line grind is just a sink for peoples free xp, because the line overall is terrible atm.

After all scubs will grind with free xp and converting a lot xp with gold (WG gets money from this) , they will 'suddenly' realize that is a little OP and kinda broken.

And then FochB will be 'rebalanced' - maybe remove one shot from the clip, worsen the gun handling, increasing the ground resistance, incrasing the intra-clip reload, etc.



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View PostPantzer, on 09 August 2017 - 12:00 PM, said:

buff? no....

 

If the remove 1 shot from the clip and gives it 2,2 sec reload between shots then it would be fine. The reload on the clip is already super good.

 

oh yes, this again ...

lets remove one shell from the magazine, so simple, make it have same firepower as Batchat...

 

who cares that Batchat has vastly superior mobility, soft gunstats, viewrange, camouflage and has THAT USELESS TURRET ...

 

right ?

 ...



8126Jakobsson #16 Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:56 PM

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View PostsgtYester, on 09 August 2017 - 12:06 PM, said:

 

i am from holland. .......

 

I've heard that you people like to smoke coffee. That's weird.

As for the new Foch I say let it be OP for a while. I never got to play 155 when it was too good. I never got to play old Hellcat. Not the KV-1S(?) either. Let me have this one.  



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View PostBora_BOOM, on 09 August 2017 - 11:19 AM, said:

 

Exactly what ppl say in Twitch chat.

 

My opinion is that no tank should be able to clip a full hp heavy from its tier. Simple.

 

Then how come forum is not flooded with "AMX 50100 is overpowered" threads. AMX 50100 can theoretically one clip VK 100.01 (P) from full HP and if I'm not mistaken VK has the highest HP on T8.



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View PostWarzey, on 09 August 2017 - 01:06 PM, said:

 

Then how come forum is not flooded with "AMX 50100 is overpowered" threads. AMX 50100 can theoretically one clip VK 100.01 (P) from full HP and if I'm not mistaken VK has the highest HP on T8.

 

Strictly speaking, that honour goes to the KV-5 with 1780 HP, but the AMX can clip that too, so your point still stands. 

roachex #19 Posted 09 August 2017 - 01:22 PM

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Imagine, a casemate tank with ability to actually pwn games reliably!

Foch 50 Borg - resistance is futile! You will be clipped! :trol:

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View PostAsghaad, on 09 August 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

 

oh yes, this again ...

lets remove one shell from the magazine, so simple, make it have same firepower as Batchat...

 

who cares that Batchat has vastly superior mobility, soft gunstats, viewrange, camouflage and has THAT USELESS TURRET ...

 

right ?

 ...

 

The Foch B has much better gun handling than the Bat Chat, is much more accurate, has AP which is more reliable than APCR, has a much faster clip speed than the Bat Chat (Foch can do 2k in 8s, whereas the Bat Chat does 1950 in nearly 12s) and about 750 more DPM, the Foch currently has a smaller reload than the Bat Chat even with 6 shells to 5. 

 

Plus some armour, and it's mobility is still pretty decent, not sure you can say a tank that goes 65kph to one that goes 50kph, is 'vastly superior'. 

 

Overall the Foch gun is much much much more reliable than the Bat Chat gun is and still would get 5 shots out and penned way more reliably than a Bat Chat ever would and faster, with a much faster reload. 







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