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Rebalancing T54 and T55a why not ?


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Synopsis0 #1 Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:30 PM

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This 2 tanks has the same data or not ? ... so you buff the russian but dont buff de t55a. Whats the point then doing missions and get the t55a if the t54 will be superior to t55a ?

I dont care if t55a its a premium i care for balance , t54 was old and with game change kinda slowly died then logic why t55a did not ?



Envoy_MT #2 Posted 10 August 2017 - 05:31 PM

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t54 is russian, t55a german :)

TankkiPoju #3 Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:23 PM

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I'm not sure if T-54 rebalancing is a buff. It will have a brawling gun and a sniper gun... but T-55A has kind of both in one package.

Balc0ra #4 Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:26 PM

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T-55A is a hybrid. The T-54 will either be a sniper or a brawler with the 2 guns then. As they balanced each gun for each role. Not for both. So what do you want your T-55A to be buffed to? As I like it the way it is now. I don't want it to be a sniper or only effective as a brawler.

Edited by Balc0ra, 10 August 2017 - 06:27 PM.


ExclamationMark #5 Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:28 PM

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reeeeeeeee t55a is op reeeeeeeeeeee

Synopsis0 #6 Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:40 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 10 August 2017 - 05:26 PM, said:

T-55A is a hybrid. The T-54 will either be a sniper or a brawler with the 2 guns then. As they balanced each gun for each role. Not for both. So what do you want your T-55A to be buffed to? As I like it the way it is now. I don't want it to be a sniper or only effective as a brawler.

 

Supertest Hull armor 240-300 , just pay atention at the details dude , just pay atention....

Edited by Synopsis0, 10 August 2017 - 06:41 PM.


Enforcer1975 #7 Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:41 PM

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Tbh that bit of armor isn't really a buff although i am happy that i can ( probably ) use the turret a bit more but the main problem for me was the lack of base pen on the "brawling gun" compared to some tier 8s meds and the lack of gun good handling for the "sniper gun". Let's see how they changed it, i will probably switch to the higher pen gun like most will do. 200ish base pen in tier 9 is certainly not something to write home about since a certain tier 9 LT has 212 pen.

Zodiac1960s #8 Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:45 PM

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Makes sense.  The 55a is a reward, so it would be dumb not to buff it aswell.

Synopsis0 #9 Posted 10 August 2017 - 06:54 PM

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Yeap , so why the hell should avarage player bother to struggle with personal mission when t55a will be crap against t54 , you have the same tier 9 tank , you struggle with personal mission grinding lines to made it if you want prem tanks not for money and then practicly they die one day . You play with t54 from next patch and [edited]personal missions becouse t55a is outdated as the t54 was. Whats the point of the reward for struglin` to get a crap comparing to 54 ?

 

And the same story with IS7 and personal mission 4...... why the hell should someone struggle if the is7 will be better then the reward 10 tank ?


Edited by Synopsis0, 10 August 2017 - 07:03 PM.


unhappy_bunny #10 Posted 10 August 2017 - 07:02 PM

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Why should a premium be superior to the ordinary tank? Surely the idea of premiums tanks is to earn more xp/credits and train crew, not be better all round.

 

We already have enough people complaining about more recent premiums being better than their equivalents, now we have them complaining they might not be. 

 



Synopsis0 #11 Posted 10 August 2017 - 07:05 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 10 August 2017 - 06:02 PM, said:

Why should a premium be superior to the ordinary tank? Surely the idea of premiums tanks is to earn more xp/credits and train crew, not be better all round.

 

We already have enough people complaining about more recent premiums being better than their equivalents, now we have them complaining they might not be. 

 

 

Dude not superior , but the same acording this years t54 and t55a were the same with minor changes , and is7 and obj were the same , now they buff t54 and buff is7 beacouse they slowly become outdated and these 2 tanks are not ? practly they has the same stats that means tis rewards tanks will remain crap becouse gameplay changed and they resurect the t54 and is7 to be competitive , what damn balance its this ?

 

And they are reward tanks not premium for money , everyone can have it with hard work so dont compare those things , pay atention to details...


Edited by Synopsis0, 10 August 2017 - 07:09 PM.


truoste #12 Posted 10 August 2017 - 07:42 PM

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View PostSynopsis0, on 10 August 2017 - 06:05 PM, said:

 

Dude not superior , but the same acording this years t54 and t55a were the same with minor changes , and is7 and obj were the same , now they buff t54 and buff is7 beacouse they slowly become outdated and these 2 tanks are not ? practly they has the same stats that means tis rewards tanks will remain crap becouse gameplay changed and they resurect the t54 and is7 to be competitive , what damn balance its this ?

 

And they are reward tanks not premium for money , everyone can have it with hard work so dont compare those things , pay atention to details...

 

I presume they make buff/nerf decisions based on some kind of set of performance statistics (how well certain tank performs) and they do all this in a meeting where no one is allowed to be sober (Maus and Type4/5 suggest that these decisions are made while heavily intoxicated). That being said, t55a and obj260 are sort of difficult to get and mostly only good players have those i.e. their overall effectiveness is just fine when they look at tank performances. Those are very similar tanks, sure sure but minor difference is that mostly better players play them and you can sort if guess how does the overall performance of those tanks look when baddies are not contributing to the statistics... 

Edited by truoste, 10 August 2017 - 07:43 PM.


Noo_Noo #13 Posted 10 August 2017 - 09:58 PM

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they buff them to create a market for them. Boom loads of XP and gold gets spent on the latest OP machine. Then the cycle continues with something else. 

They might nerf something after a while but only when that initial interest has died down. Look at the Maus now for example. 

TankkiPoju #14 Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:04 AM

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It would be pretty sweet if T-55A got 6 degrees of gun depression though...



SirTogII #15 Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:29 AM

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T55a is already a worse T54 overall even though I like the gun handling. Surely they'll buff the turret same as T54? I'll happily trade the hull armour for the gun stats but not if everything else is gonna be worse.


8126Jakobsson #16 Posted 11 August 2017 - 11:35 AM

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They can buff 54 however they want, 55 will always be the more handsome one. #looksmatters

____Green____ #17 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:02 AM

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T95E2, T55A and some other reward premiums is complete yesterday. Actually those tanks need a small buffs like:

 

T95E2 - smaller tumor on the top or just give to this tumor  a little bit more armor.

T55A -  6 degrees of gun depression.

 

Both units needs a cheaper standart ammo. 



xtrem3x #18 Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:50 PM

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T54 is already superior to the T55A




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