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captainsmith #1 Posted 11 August 2017 - 09:49 PM

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I would just like to ask what is the point of any of the heavily armoured tanks in this game when the armour is now pointless! Time and again I am being penned by gold ammo from tanks that are 2 teirs lower..... its just getting to the stage now that I wonder why anyone would even play these types of slow cumbersome tanks if all that armour is worthless, and I'm not talking about the weak spots either....
These heavy tanks/TD's should not be penned frontally by lights and meds and especially by lower teirs even if they are spamming gold, its the whole purpose of having such massive armour, the enemy needs to flank you to pen, hence why they are so slow, at least thats what I thought anyway........

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Armor is pointless, right, thats wh ythe MAUS is one of the most OP tanks in the game, because it has no armor... oh wait..

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Armor is not pointless if you know how to use it

BravelyRanAway #4 Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:06 PM

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View Postcaptainsmith, on 11 August 2017 - 08:49 PM, said:

Heavily armoured tanks, whats the point?

Armour is pointless to the clueless.



lord_chipmonk #5 Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:09 PM

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Yep, completely pointless. Who needs armour? No point at all with all these new TDs and gold spam. 

 

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Browarszky #6 Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:10 PM

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They don't even need gold to pen my armor. That's why I sold my IS-7 Emmental Edition.

Velvet_Underground #7 Posted 11 August 2017 - 10:12 PM

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View Postcaptainsmith, on 11 August 2017 - 09:49 PM, said:

I would just like to ask what is the point of any of the heavily armoured tanks in this game when the armour is now pointless! Time and again I am being penned by gold ammo from tanks that are 2 teirs lower..... its just getting to the stage now that I wonder why anyone would even play these types of slow cumbersome tanks if all that armour is worthless, and I'm not talking about the weak spots either....
These heavy tanks/TD's should not be penned frontally by lights and meds and especially by lower teirs even if they are spamming gold, its the whole purpose of having such massive armour, the enemy needs to flank you to pen, hence why they are so slow, at least thats what I thought anyway........

 

 

  Then how do you explain the fact that you do slightly worse in your tier 10 meds than you do in your TDs/heavies?


 

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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 11 August 2017 - 09:06 PM, said:

Armour is pointless to the clueless.

 

View PostSABAOTH, on 11 August 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

Armor is not pointless if you know how to use it

 

Armour isn't pointless.

 

Relying in it is.

 

When push comes to shove, which one would you chose?

>Idiot proof Maus, that takes 2 days to climb the hill in Malinovka and people "Press2ForSkill" ammo, or...

>Tought-to-play-with-but-rewarding-if-played-right B-C25t which is a light and a medium at the same time, has mobility and firepower Maus can't even dream of, while being smaller, therego, harder to hit?

 

Armour is a liability these days. WG took the longest route towards balancing the game by slapping some more armour onto some tanks. Dinger and Standard ammo remain unchanged.



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View Postbrumbarr, on 11 August 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

Armor is pointless, right, thats wh ythe MAUS is one of the most OP tanks in the game, because it has no armor... oh wait..

 

its not point;less but I understand the OPs pain.  my hit log when I play maus is pure gold

 

and very often even when in my batchat 12t tier 10s still spam gold as I guess that's all they use now

 



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View PostStewie2ie, on 11 August 2017 - 10:33 PM, said:

 

its not point;less but I understand the OPs pain.  my hit log when I play maus is pure gold

 

and very often even when in my batchat 12t tier 10s still spam gold as I guess that's all they use now

 

 

And you will still bounce most of those goldshells if you play it correctly.

Honestly, what do people want? THat their heavy tank cant be penned by anyone and all they have to do is press W?



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Why do I have:

1° No mobility

2° No turret

3° Crap gun

in my E3?

 

Just so I can get this, of course!

Frontally with lower plate hidden, needless to say.

 

 

What about that time last week with the same E3 where I was dead before making it to the top of the Campinovka hill from a single 330pen Obj 140 putting each round into my cuppola/roof?

Maybe should I have stayed in base with a gun not able to hit the door of a barn 200m away...

 

Armor my foot!


Edited by japtank, 11 August 2017 - 11:06 PM.


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View Postbrumbarr, on 11 August 2017 - 10:52 PM, said:

 

And you will still bounce most of those goldshells if you play it correctly.

Honestly, what do people want? THat their heavy tank cant be penned by anyone and all they have to do is press W?

 

I may be playing it wrong slightly

 

turret front seems to get penned every time, unless I over angle then the side gets shot

 

likewise even at extreme angles heat goes thru lower plate very often.

 

probably me tho, still learning the angles

 



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View PostStewie2ie, on 11 August 2017 - 11:06 PM, said:

 

I may be playing it wrong slightly

 

turret front seems to get penned every time, unless I over angle then the side gets shot

 

likewise even at extreme angles heat goes thru lower plate very often.

 

probably me tho, still learning the angles

 

 

You can angle the turret so that its 370mm effective everywhere.

The hull can be angled  to 360 everywhere.

No heat will go trough there.



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> says that armor is useless

 

Spoiler

 

No wonder WG overbuffed maus and type 5 in 9.17.1



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View PostStewie2ie, on 11 August 2017 - 11:06 PM, said:

 

I may be playing it wrong slightly

 

turret front seems to get penned every time, unless I over angle then the side gets shot

 

likewise even at extreme angles heat goes thru lower plate very often.

 

probably me tho, still learning the angles

 

 

Sidescrape (covers your LFP) and angle the turret. Only turn the turret back to people when they've already fired. 

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Trouble with armor is if WG don't put enough on there then people can shred it with standard rounds and everyone just complains that the tank is worthless. If they put enough to make it hard to pen with standard people just double-tap that 2 key and lolpen it through the face while complaining that the tank is OP because they have to fire gold.

Give tanks weak spots people demand. Ok, if the weak spot is easy to see it gets penned all day, tank is 'worthless'. If it's a weakspot a smart player can hide then they will and then your back to fire gold or give up so tank is OP.

So where is the middle-ground?

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Because when it has to much armor. People whine about it being a tank that is just there to force you to buy gold ammo. As most people that have complained about armor being useless now. Have complained about the new premiums forcing their gold ammo usage up. It's just a never ending circle.



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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 11 August 2017 - 11:49 PM, said:

Trouble with armor is if WG don't put enough on there then people can shred it with standard rounds and everyone just complains that the tank is worthless. If they put enough to make it hard to pen with standard people just double-tap that 2 key and lolpen it through the face while complaining that the tank is OP because they have to fire gold.

Give tanks weak spots people demand. Ok, if the weak spot is easy to see it gets penned all day, tank is 'worthless'. If it's a weakspot a smart player can hide then they will and then your back to fire gold or give up so tank is OP.

So where is the middle-ground?

 

​flanking, maps where you can use speed to flank, bigger maps and from my perspective better map rotation so shitty maps like ppilsen and ensk are the same number of games as prok and malinovka

 



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