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Unforgiving_Destiny #1 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:43 PM

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Why a grille or M44 should be able to do 200 to 250 damage with every shot while their reload time is 15 to 19 seconds and in lower tiers there is also less hp AND they also stun ??

WG did a NOT VERY BAD job in higher tier artys even though gw e100 and t92 and conquerer still shoot you for an easy 500 splash damage but still why a tier 5 and 6 arty would be able to stun and do 200 to 250 damage while hp pool is also so low in tier 6 and  7 tanks ? not to mention crusader sp at all



Phobos4321 #2 Posted 13 August 2017 - 03:55 PM

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  easy 500 splash damage

 

sir you went completly retarded here to get 500 splash you would need to hit 1cm next to a grille15 or similar tanks

 

even if a T92 would hit 1cm next to the side of a maus  the damage would be < 500 if the maus used a spall liner the damage would be <400 damage and thats the biggest arty gun  on almost a direct hit

 

i would be happy if arty scored even 300 splash damage on average  but  with owning a gwe/261 and batchat arty  you should know it perfectly just by yourself



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View PostPrincess_Ema, on 13 August 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

Why a grille or M44 should be able to do 200 to 250 damage with every shot while their reload time is 15 to 19 seconds and in lower tiers there is also less hp AND they also stun ??

 

Because the targets those two vehicles engage aren't always from lower tiers. Grille (V) can see Tier VII battles. M44 (VI) can see Tier VIII battles. So it is not stupid.

The rest is already covered by the wiki (if someone even bothered updating it) and the site blog.



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View PostPhobos4321, on 13 August 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

 

sir you went completly retarded here to get 500 splash you would need to hit 1cm next to a grille15 or similar tanks

 

even if a T92 would hit 1cm next to the side of a maus  the damage would be < 500 if the maus used a spall liner the damage would be <400 damage and thats the biggest arty gun  on almost a direct hit

 

i would be happy if arty scored even 300 splash damage on average  but  with owning a gwe/261 and batchat arty  you should know it perfectly just by yourself

You play with your monitor turned off or something ? not gonna even start arguing with someone who closes his eyes and play , yes those artys do 500 damage even to a maus and all of them shoot gold HE.



Phobos4321 #5 Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:49 PM

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guess its you walking around will closed eyes still   putting out the mantra "arty is no skill, arty is op" ...

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View PostPhobos4321, on 13 August 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

guess its you walking around will closed eyes still   putting out the mantra "arty is no skill, arty is op" ...

 

Guess you after 40k battles and being unable to keep your 1700 wn8 know better right ? oh sorry i forgot it is rigged RNG against you that you can't do 500 damage with your coquerer or gw e100 even with gold HE that has more splash radius. sorry i forgot about rigged battles and RNG against you.

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View PostPrincess_Ema, on 13 August 2017 - 03:43 PM, said:

Why a grille or M44 should be able to do 200 to 250 damage with every shot while their reload time is 15 to 19 seconds and in lower tiers there is also less hp AND they also stun ??

WG did a NOT VERY BAD job in higher tier artys even though gw e100 and t92 and conquerer still shoot you for an easy 500 splash damage but still why a tier 5 and 6 arty would be able to stun and do 200 to 250 damage while hp pool is also so low in tier 6 and  7 tanks ? not to mention crusader sp at all

 

No stun at tier V.

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Every arty is stupid.

psychobear #9 Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:11 PM

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View Postfishbob101, on 13 August 2017 - 09:08 PM, said:

Every arty is stupid.

 

This^^^.

ZlatanArKung #10 Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:31 PM

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View PostPhobos4321, on 13 August 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

guess its you walking around will closed eyes still   putting out the mantra "arty is no skill, arty is op" ...

No, not really,  more l I expect. 

Arty is no skill.

Arty is broken.

 

 

But arty is definitely not OP.



RamRaid90 #11 Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:34 PM

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View Postjaptank, on 13 August 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

 

No stun at tier V.

 

Yes there is.

 

Grille stuns. Any gun above I believe 122mm can cause stun.


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I was thinking exactly the same today. Midtier arty does way too much damage, and it is clearly why.

 

At tier 8-10, Arty potential alpha varies between 700-1300. Thats basically nearly twice as low as their old alpha. However, at tier 6, as an example the AMX 13 F3 has 700 alpha. Its only 210 lower than old one. So instead of having nearly twice as low alpha like tier 10 arta it has like 25% less alpha while having all the benefits of current arty (accuracy, aim time, splash and stun). It can still take nearly 1/3 of tier 6's heavy's health and then also stun. Tier 10 arty in return does only like 400-500 at best to a tier 10 medium tank. Thats 1/4 of its HP, and we are talking about a medium tank and generally the damage is lower. Superheavies loses often less than 10% of their HP from arty at tier 10, where the O-I may still lose 1/4 of its HP against tier 6 arty.

 

They should reduce the alpha or splash on midtier arty, or nerf the reload. One option is to make stun's effect weaker as well. But midtier arty does too much damage.



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View Postleggasiini, on 13 August 2017 - 07:45 PM, said:

They should reduce the alpha or splash on midtier arty, or nerf the reload. One option is to make stun's effect weaker as well. But midtier arty does too much damage.

can they reduce damage and pen to 0 whilst removing stun?



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yeah, low tier arta is way to powerfull. Tier5 arta takes half the HP of a tier5 tank while reloading for like 20s. Its horibly infuriating and one of the reasons I dont play low tiers.

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View Postbrumbarr, on 13 August 2017 - 09:58 PM, said:

yeah, low tier arta is way to powerfull. Tier5 arta takes half the HP of a tier5 tank while reloading for like 20s. Its horibly infuriating and one of the reasons I dont play low tiers.

 

Low tier arty is garbage, what are you talking about?

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View PostGekkoGordon, on 13 August 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

 

Low tier arty is garbage, what are you talking about?

 

Tell that to the arta hitting me for half my hp and doign it again 20s later, they clearly didnt get the memo.

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View PostGekkoGordon, on 13 August 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

 

Low tier arty is garbage, what are you talking about?

I'd rather get hit by tier 10 arty in my tier 8 tank than get focused by this:

Spoiler

 



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View PostRamRaid90, on 13 August 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

Any gun above I believe 122mm can cause stun.

 

Good to know, thx.

 

Er... nerf! I guess :)



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View Postleggasiini, on 13 August 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

They should reduce the alpha or splash on midtier arty, or nerf the reload. One option is to make stun's effect weaker as well. But midtier arty does too much damage.

 

It's had a severe nerf to penetration, and all, except premium exceptions, can only fire HE. That's true, isn't it.

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View PostHeidenSieker, on 13 August 2017 - 11:28 PM, said:

 

It's had a severe nerf to penetration, and all, except premium exceptions, can only fire HE. That's true, isn't it.

 

True or not, the fact is that it's nowhere near enough to make it acceptable for the gameplay. It's still gamebreaking as fck (not surprisingly, though).




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