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Do you like the current balance of the 15cm standard/premium ammo?

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Would you like WG to rebalance the 15cm gun in my suggested direction?

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banjoman150 #1 Posted 13 August 2017 - 05:54 PM

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In my opinion it is a very bad idea that the premiumrounds for the 15cm gun simply do more damage compared to the standard rounds because its a straight up performance boost rather than

an increased chance to penetrate. So here is my idea of a rebalance for the 15cm gun.


 

15cm:

Increased ROF to 3,2

standardammo : 1100 dmg HE

Premiumammo: 750dmg 180 penetration HEAT


 

With this ammo choice matters instead of premium being better all the time.


 

What do you think?



Waddup_m8 #2 Posted 13 August 2017 - 05:57 PM

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With that premium ammo you are going to do nothing to other tier X tank.

 

The standard is better than it in that case.


Edited by Margar, 13 August 2017 - 05:58 PM.


banjoman150 #3 Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:04 PM

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View PostMargar, on 13 August 2017 - 05:57 PM, said:

With that premium ammo you are going to do nothing to other tier X tank.

 

The standard is better than it in that case.

 

Thats exactly the point. Premiumammo shouldnt be the "always better" option wherever possible. Against Leopards and Batchats etc or sidearmors you can use it occasionally


 

Also its more of a suggested direction so if 180 is not enough then maybe 200 pen.


Edited by banjoman150, 13 August 2017 - 06:06 PM.


leggasiini #4 Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:30 PM

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View Postbanjoman150, on 13 August 2017 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

Premiumammo: 750dmg 180 penetration HEAT

 

 

Make it AP instead of HEAT and make it standard ammo. The gun is naval gun and never had HEAT shells, and gives it another non-premium

option. 

 

AP would be better than HEAT because overmatching capabilities. It also gives the gun something more skilled players can abuse better than newbies so it wouldnt be as bad.

 

The 14 cm gun needs buff though


Edited by leggasiini, 14 August 2017 - 11:34 AM.


Hyster #5 Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:39 PM

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as always the large roles get the attention.

what about the rolls for less than 100 ????

Ive hit an is3 for 28 hp using gold, other heavy tanks typically 2-300.



Citronvand #6 Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:41 PM

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I'm of the opinion that gold ammo in general should do less damage but more penetration. That way you reward players who know their limits and tanks, because if you flank or hit weakpoints with AP you will do more damage opposed to a gold spammer that shoots gold on nearly everything.

banjoman150 #7 Posted 13 August 2017 - 06:43 PM

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View PostCitronvand, on 13 August 2017 - 06:41 PM, said:

I'm of the opinion that gold ammo in general should do less damage but more penetration. That way you reward players who know their limits and tanks, because if you flank or hit weakpoints with AP you will do more damage opposed to a gold spammer that shoots gold on nearly everything.

 

Thats actually the very same damn thing i want to happen. If you do no know how to pen a tank then fine use premiumammo. But you will do like 10-20% less damage.  WG is even trying this out in WoT Blith i beliefe.
 

View PostHyster, on 13 August 2017 - 06:39 PM, said:

as always the large roles get the attention.

what about the rolls for less than 100 ????

Ive hit an is3 for 28 hp using gold, other heavy tanks typically 2-300.

 

You probably hit the gun or missed the tank entirely and spashed it in wich case 28 damage is still better than nothing
 

Hyster #8 Posted 13 August 2017 - 08:26 PM

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View Postbanjoman150, on 13 August 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

 

You probably hit the gun or missed the tank entirely and spashed it in wich case 28 damage is still better than nothing

 

u missed the point.

u are way more likely to roll low than high,



ExclamationMark #9 Posted 13 August 2017 - 11:59 PM

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There is no way to fix that *edited* tank other than remove the derp *edited* gun. Give it a 800 alpha, 280 pen, RU med gun handling, 18s reload gun for all I care.

Edited by Jbnn, 14 August 2017 - 06:22 AM.
This post has been edited by the moderation team due to inappropriate remarks.


Waddup_m8 #10 Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:24 AM

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View Postbanjoman150, on 13 August 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

Thats exactly the point. Premiumammo shouldnt be the "always better" option wherever possible. Against Leopards and Batchats etc or sidearmors you can use it occasionally


 

Also its more of a suggested direction so if 180 is not enough then maybe 200 pen.

 

But if you want to do that you need to do it to all the guns not just one. Isn't fair. 

 

I hope they do the same as in WoT Blitz. There they made the premium ammo lost almost the same dmg porcentage as the penetration gain.



Spurtung #11 Posted 14 August 2017 - 11:31 AM

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View Postbanjoman150, on 13 August 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Thats exactly the point. Premiumammo shouldnt be the "always better" option wherever possible. 

1320 credits vs. 6400 credits. Paying almost 5 times more shouldn't be "always better".

 

Are you trolling or something?

 

 

 

View Postbanjoman150, on 13 August 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

Also its more of a suggested direction so if 180 is not enough then maybe 200 pen.

 

Compare it with Obj 140's premium round. Reload, alpha, and penetration.

 

I hope you can work out that 750 alpha with that reload for that pen with that gun handling is ridiculous.


Edited by Spurtung, 14 August 2017 - 11:33 AM.





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