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Poll: Oppinions on new Sabbaton tank? (116 members have cast votes)

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What do you think about the new premium?

  1. It's great, wither because it's a Sabbaton-Wargaming tank, or just for the tank itself (32 votes [26.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.67%

  2. Meh. don't really care (49 votes [40.83%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.83%

  3. It's a fantasy tank, doesn't belong here (39 votes [32.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.50%

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jabster #41 Posted 17 August 2017 - 07:01 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 17 August 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

 

How is it any different from the Fury?

 

Besides, if you don't like it, don't buy it. Sorted. 

 

Well isn't that a bit like saying you don't like the Defender, don't buy it. Sorted.?

gullungen #42 Posted 17 August 2017 - 07:03 PM

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Where's the option for "I'm Norwegian, and i don't like any of the swedish crappy tanks, except for a few"

brisha #43 Posted 17 August 2017 - 07:16 PM

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Hmm no one has picked up on the fact a standard T8 medium is now up to over £32. That's T8 heavy prices, we are getting fleeced now, well have been for a while but still it's not all right by me.

Search_Warrant #44 Posted 17 August 2017 - 07:26 PM

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The Email i got was funny. "heavy-hitting heavy metal tank"

 

HEAVY HITTING. 20 POUNDER. :facepalm:



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View Postjabster, on 17 August 2017 - 07:01 PM, said:

 

Well isn't that a bit like saying you don't like the Defender, don't buy it. Sorted.?

 

Not quite; the one important difference is that the mere presence of the Defender is a problem as it is not balanced to the rest of tier 8, it is too good. So whether a given individual purchases it or not, it will be a problem. The PV is more like the M46Kr. It is pretty much on par with other tanks at the tier, so doesn't inherently imbalance things. So, the argument "if you don't like it, don't buy it" makes more sense. 

PricelessPlayingPancake #46 Posted 17 August 2017 - 07:35 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 17 August 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

The Email i got was funny. "heavy-hitting heavy metal tank"

 

HEAVY HITTING. 20 POUNDER. :facepalm:

 

What were you saying about 20pdr ? I seem unable to hold all these Ace wonkaas at once :trollface:

Search_Warrant #47 Posted 17 August 2017 - 07:40 PM

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View PostPricelessPlayingPancake, on 17 August 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

 

What were you saying about 20pdr ? I seem unable to hold all these Ace wonkaas at once :trollface:

 

So people perform poorly in a bad tank, thats the only reason people ever get ace tankers. unless unicums are hammering it for statpadding. 1 sec while i go play AMX40 and click battle to show you my instant Ace's?

Edited by Search_Warrant, 17 August 2017 - 07:40 PM.


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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 17 August 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

 

So people perform poorly in a bad tank, thats the only reason people ever get ace tankers. unless unicums are hammering it for statpadding. 1 sec while i go play AMX40 and click battle to show you my instant Ace's?

 

Youre right with this one - i see alot of ,,Princess Victoria'' (Somebody called my tank that way , so from now on i will call ,,her'' that way to. Its great to be pioneer of the new meme  :P)  dying with 0 dmg , getting yoloed , shot to $hit by own team(mostly is-6, kv-5 drivers :trollface:)  . And that mm tho - pulling my weight good enough for a tier X , because tier X is almost all games i play with this , and other tier 8s. ,,Happy players'' :facepalm: I dont think its a bad tank for sure , because i cant think of any other pew pew tier 8 prem that can withstand JPZ E100 shots 3 times in a row (true story) . Maybe because of my crew

                

                                                    :trollface: 


Took girls from other swed tanks and left only commander , before that , boosting him to get 6th sense at least. Cringe :harp:
 


Edited by PricelessPlayingPancake, 17 August 2017 - 07:55 PM.


Search_Warrant #49 Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:00 PM

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Its because its using the buffed british turret which the cent1 will be getting next/eventually patch. but this tank got the buffs as standard.

Edited by Search_Warrant, 17 August 2017 - 08:01 PM.


PricelessPlayingPancake #50 Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:03 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 17 August 2017 - 07:00 PM, said:

Its because its using the buffed british turret which the cent1 will be getting next/eventually patch. but this tank got the buffs as standard.

Oh the irony 



BravelyRanAway #51 Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:11 PM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 17 August 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

 

1 sec while i go play AMX40 and click battle to show you my instant Ace's?

Silly comment....you can tell by the credits he made in those pics that he is going beyond just making the bare Ace....he's the one setting the high bar....I doubt you'd do it.



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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 17 August 2017 - 07:11 PM, said:

Silly comment....you can tell by the credits he made in those pics that he is going beyond just making the bare Ace....he's the one setting the high bar....I doubt you'd do it.

 

Im not stupid enough to play a 20 pounder at tier 8 facing tier 10.

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 17 August 2017 - 08:12 PM, said:

 

Im not stupid enough to play a 20 pounder at tier 8 facing tier 10.

And why not? All the other mediums in the game do it? Its not like that 10 dmg per shot is going to make a difference.

 

I find it so weird everyone complains about low alpha when every damm medium at this tier has pretty much the same...



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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 17 August 2017 - 06:26 PM, said:

 

Not quite; the one important difference is that the mere presence of the Defender is a problem as it is not balanced to the rest of tier 8, it is too good. So whether a given individual purchases it or not, it will be a problem. The PV is more like the M46Kr. It is pretty much on par with other tanks at the tier, so doesn't inherently imbalance things. So, the argument "if you don't like it, don't buy it" makes more sense. 

 

Well no, not really. You feel that it's ok in the game regardless of its looks. Others, including me, may feel differently. If it's in the game then it's in the game and you can't avoid meeting them anymore than you can avoid meeting a Defender.

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View Postbrumbarr, on 17 August 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:

And why not? All the other mediums in the game do it? Its not like that 10 dmg per shot is going to make a difference.

 

I find it so weird everyone complains about low alpha when every damm medium at this tier has pretty much the same...

 

Its why you dont see many mediums around, dont see many tier 8 in general. 10 alpha is allot when 25% RNG is involved too.

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Prolly gonna end up using the Sabaton crew in the Emil etc.tho' maybe not.  I didn't buy the x5 missions.

MojVeseljko #57 Posted 17 August 2017 - 08:53 PM

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It's meh tank. Nothing distinctive on him.

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View Postjabster, on 17 August 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

Well no, not really. You feel that it's ok in the game regardless of its looks. Others, including me, may feel differently. If it's in the game then it's in the game and you can't avoid meeting them anymore than you can avoid meeting a Defender.

 

Ah Jabster, come on, you know better than to put words in a guy's mouth! Now, before we get any further down the rabbit hole of debating aesthetics or I put on my pedant hat and point out what I did and did not say, let me say what I would like in an ideal world. I'd like WG to take a leaf out of War Thunder's book. I would like to see far greater levels of customisability of the looks of a tank, but with everybody having the option to turn off the display of skins of other players' tanks, much like you can for MoE. This way, we sidestep the issue of "clown skins" completely as anyone who doesn't like them can simply turn them off. 

 

<Puts pedant hat on and braces for debate on a subjective topic...what can possibly go wrong?>

 

Right, I did not say that I feel it is ok regardless of how it looks. There are plenty of tanks that I would have issues with being introduced for aesthetic reasons (hello Nameless and Eidelweiss, oh and that horrific Cryysler monstrosity with the bobble head, despite that being a real tank) and indeed I have issues with tanks that are in the game for aesthetic reasons (most of the Japanese heavy line, the E100 and the Maus to name a few that spring to mind). What I did say is that I don't have an issue with the aesthetics of this particular tank. There are a number of cosmetic changes to the tank besides the paint job, but these are pretty small and I assume not what you're referring to. I assume you mean the paint scheme. Well to be honest, this paint job is hardly garish. Most of it is just a camo pattern, with a yellow "S" on the side. For my money, the Liberte, Defender and Patriot had far "worse" (i.e. more garish) paint schemes, and the camo pattern is better than a lot of the regular camo patterns available in the game. 

 

Now, I put the camo paint in a similar category as I do the Fury and the M46Kr. The PV camo is generally fairly understated (mostly just a sensible camo pattern). There's no stars and stripes in your face or anything like that. The Fury was a fictional reskin and I don't remember people having an issue there and the M46 Kr is a historical skin, although rather more garish. I don't remember the fuss over those camo patterns, so I am surprised about the fuss over this one. At least for me, the PV skin is hardly a "clown skin", it is far too understated for that. 



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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 17 August 2017 - 07:12 PM, said:

 

Im not stupid enough to play a 20 pounder at tier 8 facing tier 10.

 

It's not that you're not stupid......it's just you couldn't do it like PPP......like I said, it was a silly comment.

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I saw a Sabaton Strv81 in each battle I played this evening (two) and so decided to take out the FV4202;

http://wotreplays.com/site/3768641#winter_himmelsdorf-arthurwellsley-fv4202

 
FV4202 only need 866 base exp for ACE tanker, wow that tank is so bad. But the shells are much cheaper than on the Sabaton.

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