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MarcoStrapone #21 Posted 19 August 2017 - 12:45 AM

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View Postsuvicze, on 18 August 2017 - 08:23 PM, said:

 

Acc is basically unnoticable unless it is a huge difference and I doubt they would give centurions < 0.28 acc, soft stats and aim time is much more important. Honestly you could give the strv or centurion I the 105 from 7/1 with current stats and it would be balanced because centurion 7/1 gun stats are total crap and in need of huge buff.

 

i wont say huge buff, butt need some rework.

but to give CENT 1, 105 mm ? no way, this is why 7/1 made for.



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View PostMarcoStrapone, on 19 August 2017 - 12:45 AM, said:

 

i wont say huge buff, butt need some rework.

but to give CENT 1, 105 mm ? no way, this is why 7/1 made for.

 

Well to begin with it's not a cent 1 and secondly t8 is a whole other setting than t9 so the 7/1 would've be to hurt.

MarcoStrapone #23 Posted 19 August 2017 - 11:28 AM

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T54 with L7 gun.



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Considering they most likely will add the regular Strv 81 when the sales of the skinned version dies out just as they did with the Liberté and the Patriot it's most likely just for the cash and nothing else. Don't think we'll see the Strv 101, 102 or 104 before an extended MT tree is introduced to the game.

magkiln #25 Posted 19 August 2017 - 12:53 PM

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View PostBrandon_B, on 18 August 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

 

Actually if you keep in mind that his thing actually has armor unlike the rev it would be more balanced. Maybe a more accurate gun but with worse handling?

 

Perhaps. Alternatively, there was a plan for a Centurion with a 95 mm Howitzer. That might be an amusing alternative.

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I think a 105 armed tier 8 med with gun depression, turret armour and decent mobility would be hard to balance.

 

I mean the M4 Rev is pretty good now and that has zero armour and goes 40kph.

 

I think they could have done it, with the old 35 kph FV4202, the old stats of that, and then a good 105 with say 220 pen, but not on a 50kph Centurion with turret armour as good as some tier 8 heavies. Let's not forget the Cent 7/1 is getting the same turret armour as the Cent 1 and the P.Victoria, but is a tier 9. 

 

The P.Victoria is a pretty strong tank IMO, any better and it's becoming OP.  It's already pretty much a Patriot that trades hull armour for mobility and camo.  A 105 on that platform would be OP or they would have to make the tank bad or the DPM/Gun handling so bad that it wouldn't be fun to play IMO.

 

Just look at that guards premium that is coming, that has 390 alpha with 220 pen on a medium platform but it pretty crap overall. 


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Brandon_B #27 Posted 19 August 2017 - 04:07 PM

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View Postmagkiln, on 19 August 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

 

Perhaps. Alternatively, there was a plan for a Centurion with a 95 mm Howitzer. That might be an amusing alternative.

 

If they add that I will cry to death xD

View Posttajj7, on 19 August 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

I think a 105 armed tier 8 med with gun depression, turret armour and decent mobility would be hard to balance.

 

I mean the M4 Rev is pretty good now and that has zero armour and goes 40kph.

 

I think they could have done it, with the old 35 kph FV4202, the old stats of that, and then a good 105 with say 220 pen, but not on a 50kph Centurion with turret armour as good as some tier 8 heavies. Let's not forget the Cent 7/1 is getting the same turret armour as the Cent 1 and the P.Victoria, but is a tier 9. 

 

The P.Victoria is a pretty strong tank IMO, any better and it's becoming OP.  It's already pretty much a Patriot that trades hull armour for mobility and camo.  A 105 on that platform would be OP or they would have to make the tank bad or the DPM/Gun handling so bad that it wouldn't be fun to play IMO.

 

Just look at that guards premium that is coming, that has 390 alpha with 220 pen on a medium platform but it pretty crap overall. 

 

Well I suggested that it would have had low gunhandeling and definitely dpm, And I suppose they could lower mobility/armor.

View PostSuedKAT, on 19 August 2017 - 11:58 AM, said:

Considering they most likely will add the regular Strv 81 when the sales of the skinned version dies out just as they did with the Liberté and the Patriot it's most likely just for the cash and nothing else. Don't think we'll see the Strv 101, 102 or 104 before an extended MT tree is introduced to the game.

 

Sadly knowing wargaming this statement is only not a fact because it didn't happen YET so yea it's true.

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View PostBrandon_B, on 19 August 2017 - 03:07 PM, said:

Well I suggested that it would have had low gunhandeling and definitely dpm, And I suppose they could lower mobility/armor.

 

Which doesn't sound like a very fun tank to play IMO. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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View Posttajj7, on 19 August 2017 - 06:20 PM, said:

 

Which doesn't sound like a very fun tank to play IMO. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey I'm up for things you want to change :)

I was thinking why not put a lower dmg 105mm like 320 or something around that number.

Rather have 2 cent 1s on tier 8 or 1 that has a 20pdr but Other things going for it and a strv with a 105 that also has a few things going for it?


Edited by Brandon_B, 20 August 2017 - 01:31 AM.


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View Postmagkiln, on 19 August 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

 

Perhaps. Alternatively, there was a plan for a Centurion with a 95 mm Howitzer. That might be an amusing alternative.

 

so they can add just the 95mm howitzer to the CENT 1. why bother to make tank bcz gun.

105mm with 268 pen is to much to tier 8 medium.

the CHIEFTAIN must replace the ACTION X,.they should  cancel the CENT mark 7 and replcae it with ACTION X.

mark 7 is the same as CENT 1, with a little changes in here and there. not somthing that need a tank in techtree.

btw what the point to release non cammo strv81 if its look the same as FV4202 and CENT 1? it should stay unique with the cammo.


 







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