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2goXD #1 Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:38 PM

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This is so much fun ! ... 
hint: Type 5 heavy is totally balanced

EDIT (for not so bright minded): Type 5 heavy with derp gun can choose between 2 types of ammo. Both are HE and act exactly the same but the premium one that costs 5k more causes 300 more damage.

Besides that Type 5 also has no weak spots.
So to sum it all up you can be a 5 year old kid and dominate in a city MM without knowing what the hell you're doing.

My problem is that HT's aren't suppose to act like TD's, we have death star and JgE100 in the game that are dealing over 1k dmg/shot but they both have weak spots, much lower HP and much longer reload.
It is very obvious that the only way to balance Type 4 and Type 5 is to give them 750 dmg alpha AP, HEAT and 950 dmg HE  ammo or completely remove the big gun.
It is not normal to miss your target and deal 500 dmg, it's simply bad for the game.

type 5 heavy P2W ammo


Edited by 2goXD, 18 August 2017 - 04:46 PM.


ExclamationMark #2 Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:39 PM

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luls, looks like you got outplayed

qpranger #3 Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:42 PM

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I really want to like this OP because that is what I do around here but even I feel too confused.

Cobra6 #4 Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:44 PM

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"Outplayed"

 

Good for the game isn't it, this premium HE? Basically the problem we just fixed by severely nerfing arty but then we put the same mechanic on an actual tank because Reasons(tm )

 

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Toni112007 #5 Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:57 PM

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WG needs to sell wot to competent company.

Kozzy #6 Posted 18 August 2017 - 01:59 PM

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View PostToni112007, on 18 August 2017 - 12:57 PM, said:

WG needs to sell wot to competent company.

 

I dunno, WG seem quite competent at doing what companies strive to do: make money.

Karasu_Hidesuke #7 Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:12 PM

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View PostKozzy, on 18 August 2017 - 12:59 PM, said:

 

I dunno, WG seem quite competent at doing what companies strive to do: make money.

 

That's a good point. What people often fail to understand that many companies, especially in retail business, couldn't care less for the products they are selling. People's perceptions of business are based on the way family businesses are run, but the big corporate logic is different. They are motivated solely by market shares and profits.

Noodl_ #8 Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:16 PM

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Don't worry, the traverse speeds are getting nerfed next patch, so this definitely won't happen anymore!

 

 



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View PostBrowarszky, on 18 August 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

 

That's a good point. What people often fail to understand that many companies, especially in retail business, couldn't care less for the products they are selling. People's perceptions of business are based on the way family businesses are run, but the big corporate logic is different. They are motivated solely by market shares and profits.

And why do people not understand that the customer shouldnt care about that, the customer wants a good product and not be scammed. We cant just go around saying everything is fine because the companys make money by ripping us of, but its fine, thats their job! No, a company should be held accountable for things they do and there are rules what companys are allowed to do and not, we , customers should strive for a bettter product, NOT more money for the company.

 

I am not going around defending pharma companys that sell their medication that saves lives for so much money people go bankrupt over it because it makes them money because its fine!

 

Thats your logic, its fine to have a shitty product and rip people off aslong as it makez the company money. Disgusting.



Kozzy #10 Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:22 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 18 August 2017 - 01:17 PM, said:

And why do people not understand that the customer shouldnt care about that, the customer wants a good product and not be scammed. We cant just go around saying everything is fine because the companys make money by ripping us of, but its fine, thats their job! No, a company should be held accountable for things they do and there are rules what companys are allowed to do and not, we , customers should strive for a bettter product, NOT more money for the company.

 

I am not going around defending pharma companys that sell their medication that saves lives for so much money people go bankrupt over it because it makes them money because its fine!

 

Thats your logic, its fine to have a shitty product and rip people off aslong as it makez the company money. Disgusting.

 

I think you may have missed the points we were making (I assume Browarszky was on the same page as me anyway).  WG are company, out to make money.  If people actually want their opinions heard then stop giving money (in fact, stop playing full stop would be better).  Instead, people come on the forums and whine about how much they think WG sucks, they then go and buy lots of WG stuff and/or play the game providing other players with team mates/enemies.  

 

Sometimes people come onto the forums demanding stuff from a company that is out to make money, a company that IS making a lot of money doing things the way they ARE doing them.  No point whining if you are still going to support the company and, by extension, the culmination of all its decisions.


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View PostKozzy, on 18 August 2017 - 02:22 PM, said:

 

I think you may have missed the points we were making (I assume Browarszky was on the same page as me anyway).  WG are company, out to make money.  If people actually want their opinions heard then stop giving money (in fact, stop playing full stop would be better).  Instead, people come on the forums and whine about how much they think WG sucks, they then go and buy lots of WG stuff and/or play the game providing other players with team mates/enemies.  

 

Sometimes people come onto the forums demanding stuff from a company that is out to make money, a company that IS making a lot of money doing things the way they ARE doing them.  No point whining if you are still going to support the company and, by extension, the culmination of all its decisions.

You missed my point completely aswell.



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View PostCobra6, on 18 August 2017 - 02:44 PM, said:

"Outplayed"

 

Good for the game isn't it, this premium HE? Basically the problem we just fixed by severely nerfing arty but then we put the same mechanic on an actual tank because Reasons(tm )

 

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So lack of direct LOS so people can retaliate is not the issue anymore?



JuliusCheddar #13 Posted 18 August 2017 - 02:59 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 18 August 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

I really want to like this OP because that is what I do around here but even I feel too confused.

Use your aggressive feelings, boy



MattieW #14 Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:33 PM

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How long were you stationery?

Those type 5's take a while to aim.



brumbarr #15 Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:35 PM

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View PostMattieW, on 18 August 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

How long were you stationery?

Those type 5's take a while to aim.

 

No they dont, they need to aim less than other guns, since all they need to do is hit anywhere on a tank.

Merton15 #16 Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:47 PM

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And for how long have Hetzers, T40s, M4s, PZIVH etc been merrily one shotting at T4/T5? If you drive an LT or glasscannon you get derped once in a while. Why should it be any different at T10? If WG have to get out the nerf bat every time it happens we will spend all our time downloading updates.

Kozzy #17 Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:50 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 18 August 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

You missed my point completely aswell.

 

Care to succinctly declare what is was?  I was fairly sure I didn't miss it and replied accordingly.

 

View Postbrumbarr, on 18 August 2017 - 01:17 PM, said:

And why do people not understand that the customer shouldnt care about that, the customer wants a good product and not be scammed. We cant just go around saying everything is fine because the companys make money by ripping us of, but its fine, thats their job! No, a company should be held accountable for things they do and there are rules what companys are allowed to do and not, we , customers should strive for a bettter product, NOT more money for the company.

 

I am not going around defending pharma companys that sell their medication that saves lives for so much money people go bankrupt over it because it makes them money because its fine!

 

Thats your logic, its fine to have a shitty product and rip people off aslong as it makez the company money. Disgusting.

 

This is exactly what I was pointing to "we need to hold this company to account" *later plays the game thus validating Kozzy's point*



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View PostKozzy, on 18 August 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:

 

Care to succinctly declare what is was?  I was fairly sure I didn't miss it and replied accordingly.

 

 

This is exactly what I was pointing to "we need to hold this company to account" *later plays the game thus validating Kozzy's point*

 

I  will explain later, as it takes some time and now I am just taking a quick 5min break when studying.

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View PostMerton15, on 18 August 2017 - 02:47 PM, said:

And for how long have Hetzers, T40s, M4s, PZIVH etc been merrily one shotting at T4/T5? If you drive an LT or glasscannon you get derped once in a while. Why should it be any different at T10? If WG have to get out the nerf bat every time it happens we will spend all our time downloading updates.

 

ok read my edit now

Knight_Zao #20 Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:16 PM

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Whats the odds that the type 5 driver is one of them that complain when prem rounds get spanked at him lol!!!!

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