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Ilknur_Ibryam #1 Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:49 PM

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Hey!

 

I was looking into my tank selection and I have noticed I am not doing well in a lot of my tanks after the latest updates. So I wonder which tanks are keepers and what new tanks I can get to at least contribute and have some fun.

 

Tanks I have:

Stug IV - from the missions

lttb - I have some really bad games with this one lately - my win rate dropped badly. I am thinking on getting the t9 medium and sell it. I may go for object 140.

t54 ltwt - I am at about  50% and I like playing this tank - one of the lights I enjoy to be honest - can you recommend equipment and crew skill build?

IS3 - good tanks but can barelly hold  50% win rate - I feel like I am underperforming. Recommend equipment and crew skill build, please. Is it worth grinding the IS7?

Bulldgod - It was a very good tank and I loved it, but now feels like a meh. I am thinking on going all the way up to T57 as it seems as  easy to play heavy tank on which even a potato like me can do fine.

m44 - that is my only artilery for missions.

t49 - bleh I suck on this tank - I am not playing it for sure unless someone suggest a good build for it. Also seems like Sheridan is not a go to t10 tank.

amx1390 - I also suck at this one no clue what to do with it

batchat 25t ap - I sucked at this one but win rate seemed to go up a bit - actually I like playing this one

cromwell - I am not sure what happend with the crommy - but I used to do well with it, now while I am having fun I am doing bad

Charioteer - feels like meh. I still do not have the last gun but really feels like meh. I started grinding Swedish TD for missions.

O-I - always wanted to have a super heavy and this one is very much a slow mo tank when you feel like bored I like it.

 

So which ones of these are keepers? Which one I can improve with equipment, suggest recommended equipment and crew build. Which ones worth grinding?

 

Which tanks are easy to play Potato friendly, so I am not dragging everyone down? I liked the light tanks before, but now they feel very meh and bad and with this new MM it seems I am required to carry with lights as I am often a top tier. That is not something I can do really.



Kozzy #2 Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:53 PM

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What's your goal?  To get good stats/earn credits/grind certain lines/have fun?

 

I personally seem to find light tanks in general more difficult to play and so I tend to do worse on all level in them.  Cromwell is a great tank though, along with the IS3 and I hear good things about the Charioteer.  M44 was easy (like most arty).



Dr_ownape #3 Posted 18 August 2017 - 03:59 PM

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some of those tanks have a higher skill ceiling than others and dependant on your skill you will do better or worse in them than others. Im not sure how good/bad you are but i would suggest the following:

 

Noob friendly tanks:

 

IS-3

cromwell

O-I

M44

StuG

 

NOT noob friendly tanks:

 

Any high tier lights

charioteer

BC AP

 

Choose which suits you best

 



_____Yarpen_____ #4 Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:03 PM

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It is all about power creep dude.  Definitely get rid of Stug 4 and Charioteer. T54 lite is amazing, so is t49 with the new gun and 1390.  Cromwell is and has always been good if you are aggressive (and smart)

O-I and higher Japanese tiers are good, O-NI only performs good on top tier otherwise it is meh, o-ho is meh all together and then type 4/5 are beasts.

IS3 has always been a noob friendly staple so if you are having problems in that then you may have to rethink everything.  Can't give you any advice on setups as I have never bothered going down that tree - I leveled my soviet heavies before they shifted them all around a few years back.

 

Definitely grind the Japanese heavies, type 4 is super potato friendly with the 15CM HE gun.  You may not be the top dmg but you will surely have a lot of fun.

Going the US tree to T57 also gives you a T54E1 which is a beast of a medium in my oppinion.

LTTB, once again - an amazing scout but as it goes with scout tanks - it is all up to the player.  Some people are just not meant for lights and that is not an insult in any way.  If you plan on Grinding towards the Object14- I would suggest going the A-43-->A-44--> Object 416 line as the tanks are super fun.  A-43 with 57 mm gun is a beast if you know how to use them and with gold it has insane pen.  A-44 is a bit of a bastard but also super fun  with its high alpha, Object 416 once again a strong tank.

 

You just gotta play the tanks a bit and see what you like most.  I for one have dropped British and French tanks entirely (except french lights) grind was too much and the tanks did not suit me.



Havoc7926 #5 Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:04 PM

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First thing is to figure out what you want to play.  At the moment I'm avoiding light tanks because I'm just plain rubbish in them.  Tank destroyers other than the Skorpion becuase frankly if you have that the others just don't compare.  So I'm left with Heavy and meds as an option.  

 

Now whilst I would love to be a competent Obj 140 driver I'm just not.  So my solution there is go way back down to the T-34 / Rudy / T-34-85M level to try and learn how to play them.

Same thing really with the Russian Heavy tanks.  I'd gone all the way up to IS-7 but wasn't much good.  So I went back to the KV-1 to try and learn.  Sometimes I bust out my T-10 because it plays very much as a cross between a heavy and a medium and I enjoy it.

Along the way I've noticed that I do better in German mediums than Russian.  The more accurate guns mean I'm not brawling as much so I'm playing the newly acquired E 50 for fun.

 

Moral of the story is that, for me at least, I found that if I did bad in a tank then moving up a tier never ever solved the problem.  I just played bad in that one as well.  

 

Figure out what style of tank you would like to do well in.  Look honestly at your stats to try and find similarities between the tanks you are doing the best in.  Then pick a lower tier version of that play style and spend some time learning that style without the pressure of researching new tanks and worry about your credit balance.

 

Hope that helps a bit and good luck.

 



Toni112007 #6 Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:08 PM

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I wouldn't call Cromwell noob frendly.

Derethim #7 Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:09 PM

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View Post_____Yarpen_____, on 18 August 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

It is all about power creep dude.  Definitely get rid of Stug 4 

Well, I wouldn't get rid of a tank you can only acquire once..



Sams_Baneblade #8 Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:16 PM

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T-54 Light:

Slap Vertistab, Rammer and Optics (or Vents, it's a matter of preference).

Skill are quite typical: first, camo. When at 100%, drop for BIA and restart training for camo and 6th sense. Then, viewrange+gun handling skills, then repairs, which should come very handy.

 

IS-3:

Vertistab, rammer, toolbox. Give up the toolbox for Vents/GLD once your crew has repair at 100% and BIA.

Skills: First, repair. When at 100% drop for BIA and restart Repair. Then 6th sense, gun handling skills and safe ammo rack skills.

The IS-7 will be buffed in the next patch, so it should become a very enjoyable vehicle.

 

Keepers are the tanks in which you get your best results and/or the most fun, so it only depends on you.

About new tanks to get: the T-34 and T-34-85 are very good, while the T29 is clearly the best Tier 7. If you want a good trainer for lights, you can go easymode with the Luchts or the M5A1. For TDs, I always had a soft spot for the SU-100, as it is well rounded with a punchy gun.


Edited by Sams_Baneblade, 18 August 2017 - 04:28 PM.


StinkyStonky #9 Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:18 PM

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So in summary, 3 tier 9 lights, 2 tier 8 lights, a tier 9 med that plays like a light, a tier 6 med that is faster than most lights, a tier 8 heavy, a tier 8 TD, a tier 6 arty, a tier 6 super heavy.

 

I would suggest you diversify a bit.  Tier 10 lights are generally considered to be bad.

 

For equipment checkout vbadicts, but be quick, it's closing soon.

 

select your filters

http://www.vbaddict.net/statistics.php?tier=8&tanktype=0&nation=0&premium=0&modeid=0&team=0&battles=1000&groupby=0&fieldname=spotted&server=

Click the tank

http://www.vbaddict.net/tankstats/soviet_union/light/lttb-72

Go to the equipment tab

 

 

+10% to view range, up to a range of 500 mCoated Optics

54.7%
(57.6%)

 

 

 

-10% to loading time
Medium-Caliber Tank Gun Rammer
49.3%
(56.8%)

 

 

+5% to all crew skills
Improved Ventilation Class 1
57.3%
(55.1%)

 



_____Yarpen_____ #10 Posted 18 August 2017 - 04:21 PM

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View PostToni112007, on 18 August 2017 - 03:08 PM, said:

I wouldn't call Cromwell noob frendly.

 

Yeah I was about to say that, Cromwell is a great tank but only in capable hands.

Yakito #11 Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:24 PM

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Panther/m10 premium. My newbie friend loves it and he struggles with most other tanks.

theSwedishTankDriver #12 Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:44 PM

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View PostDrownape, on 18 August 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

NOT noob friendly tanks:

 

Any high tier lights

 It depends on what you do in your light tanks. Many players just sit in a bush or driving around a ridge all game, there's no skill in that.



XxKuzkina_MatxX #13 Posted 18 August 2017 - 05:55 PM

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View PostToni112007, on 18 August 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

I wouldn't call Cromwell noob frendly.

 

Yep, we got the t34-85 (and the prem variants) for that.

Enforcer1975 #14 Posted 18 August 2017 - 06:57 PM

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As mentioned above pick fewer classes like maybe 2 and try to master them first, i'd say medium and heavy because from my experience starting with the TD line didn't really help me improve even though i was doing fairly ok with them so far and imo staying above tier 7 and trying to force it is counterproductive in your case. You just can't carry your own weight yet.

Try reading up some stuff maybe it will help you improve but you have to have the will to do it. http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/436045-the-tankers-handbook/


Edited by Enforcer1975, 18 August 2017 - 06:57 PM.


Obsessive_Compulsive #15 Posted 18 August 2017 - 07:53 PM

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jap heavy... press r,r and shoot HE.. meh hur dur prurdurdur

G01ngToxicCommand0 #16 Posted 18 August 2017 - 09:12 PM

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In WoT it is called 'tomato' not 'potato', potato is what it is called in WoWS.


Edited by atomskytten, 18 August 2017 - 09:12 PM.


Ilknur_Ibryam #17 Posted 19 August 2017 - 05:45 AM

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View PostKozzy, on 18 August 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

What's your goal?  To get good stats/earn credits/grind certain lines/have fun?

 

I personally seem to find light tanks in general more difficult to play and so I tend to do worse on all level in them.  Cromwell is a great tank though, along with the IS3 and I hear good things about the Charioteer.  M44 was easy (like most arty).

 

Well I cant get good. I play right now about 15-20 hours per week max. So just have fun while getting some progression on tank lines and grind few credits here and there. Mainly I want that t7 premium from 2nd mission set and I struggle with medium 15, heavy missions (just the one I need to de cap and ht15) and td missions. I am thinking with that t7 premium I can grind few credits and buy new tanks, while getting exp on tanks that worth grinding credits. So far comments are suggesting the T57 line, the IS7 line and Jap heavies plus maybe the obj 140 line.

Bearclaw #18 Posted 19 August 2017 - 07:52 AM

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View PostIlknur_Ibryam, on 18 August 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Charioteer - feels like meh. I still do not have the last gun but really feels like meh. I started grinding Swedish TD for missions.

 

Charioteer is a good tank and the gun is a major factor to that. If you only want a TD for the missions I would suggest keeping it.

Even tho I would say the Swedish TDs are better, they require more skill and map knowledge. One misstake can be all it takes to die.

 

Also, the tier 9 Conway is at the moment very underwhelming. But there are changes incomming that looks very interesting.

http://forum.worldof...2-introduction/



veso_vn #19 Posted 19 August 2017 - 08:13 AM

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My advice look in youtube how the good players play this tanks and use the tips  . Also don`t ask players like this - every player have diferent play stile . You need to faind yours . Just be sure you play properly the tank role ( heavy , td , med , lt...)

Edited by veso_vn, 19 August 2017 - 09:55 PM.


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View PostToni112007, on 18 August 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

I wouldn't call Cromwell noob frendly.

 

This, it's actually very unforgiving tank




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