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JuicyProduction #1 Posted 19 August 2017 - 03:29 AM

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Came back after a 3 week holiday and saw the thing on sale. Minus the chest plate on the front of the tank i though it looked cool and with a strong turret would be fun to play but Jesus Christ the credits it earns feels disgustingly bad for a prem tank. I've definitely not been playing good after not having touched the game for 3 weeks but even so my other prems seem to earn so much more either because they have better profitability or they just have larger damage/assist damage potentials.

 

Buff credit income for Primo? please? anyone agree?



Coldspell #2 Posted 19 August 2017 - 03:53 AM

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View PostJuicyProduction, on 19 August 2017 - 02:29 AM, said:

Came back after a 3 week holiday and saw the thing on sale. Minus the chest plate on the front of the tank i though it looked cool and with a strong turret would be fun to play but Jesus Christ the credits it earns feels disgustingly bad for a prem tank. I've definitely not been playing good after not having touched the game for 3 weeks but even so my other prems seem to earn so much more either because they have better profitability or they just have larger damage/assist damage potentials.

 

Buff credit income for Primo? please? anyone agree?

 

I made 32k profit in a game where I fired at least 10 prem rounds prem rounds I was expecting to lose cash tbh (tier 10 game).

Its not a jt88 or a Skorp G profitability wise but equally its not utter shite and its so enjoyable to drive even in tier 10 mm you can rack up credits without noticing.



JuicyProduction #3 Posted 19 August 2017 - 08:14 AM

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View PostColdspell, on 19 August 2017 - 02:53 AM, said:

 

I made 32k profit in a game where I fired at least 10 prem rounds prem rounds I was expecting to lose cash tbh (tier 10 game).

Its not a jt88 or a Skorp G profitability wise but equally its not utter shite and its so enjoyable to drive even in tier 10 mm you can rack up credits without noticing.

 

Hm well to be honest I played like sh*t since my break at my stats for this poor tank show it. Still my first game in my lorrain I did 4k and came out with 106k creds. Its not rare to only do 3k combined and come out with 50-80k depending on how much damage I took.

Kupsztas #4 Posted 19 August 2017 - 08:17 AM

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Does it get the same 20-pounder as british tanks? If the answer is yes, you HAVE to expect bad profitability, this gun has one of the worst credits/damage ratio on standard shells.

People are begging for a decreased price of 20-pounder shells for years and nothing changes, so I wouldn't expect any changes because of PV.



qpranger #5 Posted 19 August 2017 - 08:32 AM

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It actually earns more than players receive - a percentage of the silver earnings goes directly to Sabaton as franchise fee.

RockyRoller #6 Posted 19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM

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View PostJuicyProduction, on 19 August 2017 - 02:29 AM, said:

Came back after a 3 week holiday and saw the thing on sale. Minus the chest plate on the front of the tank i though it looked cool and with a strong turret would be fun to play but Jesus Christ the credits it earns feels disgustingly bad for a prem tank. I've definitely not been playing good after not having touched the game for 3 weeks but even so my other prems seem to earn so much more either because they have better profitability or they just have larger damage/assist damage potentials.

 

Buff credit income for Primo? please? anyone agree?

 

I thought it already had a buff when I saw one doing less kills, less damage, but still getting the 1st place in exp earned in a battle. When I watched a YT video last night the short term exp bonuses were well and truly pay to win. 

Kartoshkaya #7 Posted 19 August 2017 - 08:46 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 19 August 2017 - 08:32 AM, said:

It actually earns more than players receive - a percentage of the silver earnings goes directly to Sabaton as franchise fee.

 

What are they doing with silvers ? Are they going to fit a vstab on their guitars or what ?

DracheimFlug #8 Posted 19 August 2017 - 08:49 AM

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View PostRockyRoller, on 19 August 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

 

I thought it already had a buff when I saw one doing less kills, less damage, but still getting the 1st place in exp earned in a battle. When I watched a YT video last night the short term exp bonuses were well and truly pay to win. 

 

Purchasable xp bonuses are not pay to win. They are pay to get higher rewards for winning. There is a significant difference.

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View PostKartoshkaya, on 19 August 2017 - 08:46 AM, said:

 

What are they doing with silvers ? Are they going to fit a vstab on their guitars or what ?

Might I suggest improved ventillation to boost crew skill?

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SABAOTH #10 Posted 19 August 2017 - 09:28 AM

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View PostJuicyProduction, on 19 August 2017 - 03:29 AM, said:

Came back after a 3 week holiday and saw the thing on sale. Minus the chest plate on the front of the tank i though it looked cool and with a strong turret would be fun to play but Jesus Christ the credits it earns feels disgustingly bad for a prem tank. I've definitely not been playing good after not having touched the game for 3 weeks but even so my other prems seem to earn so much more either because they have better profitability or they just have larger damage/assist damage potentials.

 

Buff credit income for Primo? please? anyone agree?

 

Shells are pretty expensive. And with that pea shooter you must shoot a lot and with this premium MM you need tons of gold vs tier X.

 

But yeah it's credit potential sucks :girl:



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View PostJuicyProduction, on 19 August 2017 - 03:29 AM, said:

Came back after a 3 week holiday and saw the thing on sale. Minus the chest plate on the front of the tank i though it looked cool and with a strong turret would be fun to play but Jesus Christ the credits it earns feels disgustingly bad for a prem tank. I've definitely not been playing good after not having touched the game for 3 weeks but even so my other prems seem to earn so much more either because they have better profitability or they just have larger damage/assist damage potentials.

 

Buff credit income for Primo? please? anyone agree?

 

 

It has one of the worst, if not the worst, credit/dmg shell in the game.

 

Doing damage in it is expensive. Much more so then in other T8 tanks.



Balc0ra #12 Posted 19 August 2017 - 12:19 PM

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View PostJuicyProduction, on 19 August 2017 - 08:14 AM, said:

 

Hm well to be honest I played like sh*t since my break at my stats for this poor tank show it. Still my first game in my lorrain I did 4k and came out with 106k creds. Its not rare to only do 3k combined and come out with 50-80k depending on how much damage I took.

 

Depends. Was that damage on your own spotting or on others. 3K damage don't give a flat reward pr damage point as such. As on others spotting, 50% of the credits pr damage point goes away. That and there is a bonus pr detected tank you get rewarded. So if you play other premiums more aggressive, and get early spots etc. It might seem like it gives less if you play this as a support med.

 

As the few I've seen in it, plays it the same way as the British Cent 1. As in a support role, not a brawler. 



WilhelmII #13 Posted 19 August 2017 - 12:25 PM

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IMO Pemium tanks should not be on the same map as grinders, Premiums should be only pitted against other premiums that way all the quick fix guys can play together, leaving the grinders to do it the old fashioned way grind up and accrue experience along the way without a day one new guy buying a level 6 or whatever and creating mayhem for their own team. 

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View PostWilhelmII, on 19 August 2017 - 12:25 PM, said:

IMO Pemium tanks should not be on the same map as grinders, Premiums should be only pitted against other premiums that way all the quick fix guys can play together, leaving the grinders to do it the old fashioned way grind up and accrue experience along the way without a day one new guy buying a level 6 or whatever and creating mayhem for their own team. 

 

Why not in training room only?

 

Buy a tank, sorry you can't play with others... now go to your corner.



Browarszky #15 Posted 19 August 2017 - 02:55 PM

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View PostWilhelmII, on 19 August 2017 - 11:25 AM, said:

IMO Pemium tanks should not be on the same map as grinders, Premiums should be only pitted against other premiums that way all the quick fix guys can play together, leaving the grinders to do it the old fashioned way grind up and accrue experience along the way without a day one new guy buying a level 6 or whatever and creating mayhem for their own team. 

 

Could we consider some other options?

WilhelmII #16 Posted 19 August 2017 - 03:42 PM

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No I think premium tanks v premium tanks only and the same for Grinders, to me that is fair and how it should be, but guess what, i know this won't happen, as no one would buy any more Tanks as the unfairness advantage has gone, and now the premiums become a paid for grinder, so how do you keep the tanks selling , pitch them unfairly on grinders, that is good and sound business but crappy game value to grinders,

 

Such as you might give the time and effort to get a Pershing and along comes a day one veteran who buys a super Pershing Hmmmmmmm.



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Patriot:      250 Credits / 240 dmg  // Bought for 35,80 € // 230mm Apcr Standard Ammo

P. Victoria: 680 Credits / 230 Dmg // Bought for 35,99 € // 226mm Apcr Standard Ammo

 

Patriot is the far better Cr Maker. I played the PV with Cr booster running and i was really surprised about the low CR making ability. Dont think thats fair, WG should improve the CR earning potential of the P.V. On top you cant even use this med for Crew Training.


Edited by Panzerfighter_, 19 August 2017 - 04:22 PM.


NiemandXL #18 Posted 19 August 2017 - 04:26 PM

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It's basically a Centurion 1 and that tank always had crazy expensive standard shells for some reason considering they only do 230 damage.

Edited by NiemandXL, 19 August 2017 - 04:27 PM.


Panzerfighter_ #19 Posted 19 August 2017 - 04:54 PM

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Its a balance number nothing more. If they give him a better Credit Earning factor they can let the 680 Credits/shot untouched. I just saw repair is pretty high aswell.

PanzerVor87 #20 Posted 19 August 2017 - 09:03 PM

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View PostPanzerfighter_, on 19 August 2017 - 04:54 PM, said:

Its a balance number nothing more. If they give him a better Credit Earning factor they can let the 680 Credits/shot untouched. I just saw repair is pretty high aswell.


Full repair can go over 10-12k credits, and then there's the poor alpha and expensive shells. Pretty much what T-54/Object 416 players have to deal with (320 alpha 1230 credit standard shells or something), except at least Strv 81 always makes some money even when playing like shite.






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