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Tinom5 #1 Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:18 AM

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So, i decided i want the chafee and m41 bulldog. Ok so started grinding did ok in the stuard and then i researxhed the chafee. So far so good. But then i started doing battles. Man am i having a bad time with the little guy. Somehow no matter how much i try to do good in scouting ( i am not that good in it ) no matter how much my team wins like we have 10 tanks they have lets say 5 somehow the tables turn and we lose. I havent had a won battle since i upgraded the engine... :D what the hell ? Why can i have a decent battle in it?

P.s. not hating the tank although i do hate the kinda long reload time.



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Don't expect this tank to be able to carry a game. Only very very good players can do that, even i had a hard time as a bob back then when it was still having scout MM.

Balc0ra #3 Posted 20 August 2017 - 03:57 AM

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It's still a great scout, both active and passive. But far from the bully tank it once was. As the top gun now, was the stock gun in the past. But it was a scout for tier 8+ back then.

 

DPM like all lights is lacking to do any seriously carrying if needed. So don't rely to much on your gun to get you out of a fight in most 1 on 1's. But it's a nifty little support tank to smack a few rounds on distracted targets. Or smack a bit on his own spotting on the more open maps mid to late game.

 

I don't see to many of it anymore. Sad really, and it shows in other areas. I took it out a few weeks ago, and was amazed that the MOE went from 84%.. to 99% in one game.. with more or less 1.3K combined damage/assist.



ExclamationMark #4 Posted 20 August 2017 - 04:00 AM

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What is wrong with the Chaffee? Well, it was nerfed quite some time ago.

Tinom5 #5 Posted 20 August 2017 - 04:20 AM

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Seeing this i hope the m41 is that bad nerfed. Though a friend of mine said it isnt good anymore.

_Anarchistic_ #6 Posted 20 August 2017 - 04:21 AM

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err nothing?

 

just sold it after 3 marking it, good tank



Lycopersicon #7 Posted 20 August 2017 - 09:31 AM

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It was castrated beyond recognition during the big light tank overhaul. Used to be the ultimate scout tank, now it is... something of a medium tank with underwhelming firepower.

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View PostTinom5, on 20 August 2017 - 03:18 AM, said:

So, i decided i want the chafee and m41 bulldog. Ok so started grinding did ok in the stuard and then i researxhed the chafee. So far so good. But then i started doing battles. Man am i having a bad time with the little guy. Somehow no matter how much i try to do good in scouting ( i am not that good in it ) no matter how much my team wins like we have 10 tanks they have lets say 5 somehow the tables turn and we lose. I havent had a won battle since i upgraded the engine... :D what the hell ? Why can i have a decent battle in it?

P.s. not hating the tank although i do hate the kinda long reload time.

 

Wait after the weekend is over then you can assess how bad the tank really is. :girl:

 

I remember it as a fine little bugger, but that was years ago. I love the T 71 now, hoping they would not nerf it to ground at some point.



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Very rarely see a Chaffee in a battle. 

Aikl #10 Posted 20 August 2017 - 10:10 AM

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View PostTinom5, on 20 August 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

Seeing this i hope the m41 is that bad nerfed. Though a friend of mine said it isnt good anymore.

 

10-shot 1500-damage clip was replaced by a 6-shot at 1020 for the same reload (~34 seconds). The non-autoloader is, once again, regarded as the superior option. It has over average viewrange, but it's still a big ammorack on tracks, with sub-par camo values. This means it's just a fast but shitty medium tank - which fits the overall theme of light tanks both in functionality and practical gameplay. Well, it's probably not that bad, but still.

 

Light tanks are apparently not supposed to be much fun anymore. Not that the M41 was healthy with that clip, but many other lights lost their 'gimmick gun'. VK2801 lost the 105, for reasons unknown. 59-16 lost the 76mm autoloader. 



TankkiPoju #11 Posted 20 August 2017 - 10:14 AM

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M24 is pretty bad. The low DPM and terrible accuracy kind of ruin it.

 

If you want good tier 5 light tank... T-50 is pretty damn awesome.

 



AliceUnchained #12 Posted 20 August 2017 - 08:56 PM

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View PostAikl, on 20 August 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

10-shot 1500-damage clip was replaced by a 6-shot at 1020 for the same reload (~34 seconds). The non-autoloader is, once again, regarded as the superior option. It has over average viewrange, but it's still a big ammorack on tracks, with sub-par camo values. This means it's just a fast but shitty medium tank - which fits the overall theme of light tanks both in functionality and practical gameplay. Well, it's probably not that bad, but still.

 

Light tanks are apparently not supposed to be much fun anymore. Not that the M41 was healthy with that clip, but many other lights lost their 'gimmick gun'. VK2801 lost the 105, for reasons unknown. 59-16 lost the 76mm autoloader. 

 

Actually, it's a 6 * 150 = 900 clip as for some reason the 76 mm auto-loading gun is the only gun still at 150 average, the rest has 170 average. Unless it was recently changed. The clip reload was actually increased by 2 seconds as well, giving the M41 Bulldog a whopping 1.200 DPM with the auto-loader... The Tier VII T71 laughs away at over 1.800 DPM.

Edited by AliceUnchained, 20 August 2017 - 08:56 PM.


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View PostAliceUnchained, on 20 August 2017 - 07:56 PM, said:

 

Actually, it's a 6 * 150 = 900 clip as for some reason the 76 mm auto-loading gun is the only gun still at 150 average, the rest has 170 average. Unless it was recently changed. The clip reload was actually increased by 2 seconds as well, giving the M41 Bulldog a whopping 1.200 DPM with the auto-loader... The Tier VII T71 laughs away at over 1.800 DPM.

 

You're correct, confused it with the non-autoloader version of the 76. Thought there was something weird about that.

 

T71 laughs at the B-C 12t as well, though at least it beats the M41 in autoloader firepower. Anyway, further confirms that light tanks are not supposed to be fun, but at this point it looks like the autoloader's getting canned anyway. 



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Ah the days of the old Chaffee, when it was a tier 5 scout meeting tier 10 heavies.

Balc0ra #15 Posted 21 August 2017 - 03:28 AM

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View PostTinom5, on 20 August 2017 - 04:20 AM, said:

Seeing this i hope the m41 is that bad nerfed. Though a friend of mine said it isnt good anymore.

 

Well it's losing it's clip gun to, as that line in upcoming changes is going 100% single fire, along with a new single fire T71 variant in it. Not that it was worth it now, as the nerfed clip gun on it gave it 1100 dpm, and you did struggle to even win any 1 on 1, as the reload vs burst was not worth putting it on. So it's far from the bully tank it was with the 10 round mag. But the new single fire gun gives it 2500 dpm, higher then just about any tier 8 light. As most of them are at 1700 to 2000. It can dance and DPM around just about any sluggish isolated target just fine still, difference is that now you don't have to run if it has more then 1500 HP. But it's a better support tank now if you will. Vs a hit and run tank like before.

 

Regardless... It's worth the grind when you get the 2900 DPM T49 with the 90mm.



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View PostTinom5, on 20 August 2017 - 02:18 AM, said:

 So far so good. But then i started doing battles.

 

You mean, it was good in the garage?

iztok #17 Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:45 AM

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> What the hell is wrong with the chafee ?

  1. Was nerferd too many times.
  2. Plays like a light tank. Player needs to adjust accordingly.


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View PostSABAOTH, on 20 August 2017 - 09:44 AM, said:

 

Wait after the weekend is over then you can assess how bad the tank really is. :girl:

 

I remember it as a fine little bugger, but that was years ago. I love the T 71 now, hoping they would not nerf it to ground at some point.

 

if anything, the T71 needs to be nerfed, as it wins a frontal fight against same tier heavies, which makes zero sense.

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View PostHassenderZerhacker, on 21 August 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

 

if anything, the T71 needs to be nerfed, as it wins a frontal fight against same tier heavies, which makes zero sense.

 

Yeah, it must be all the armour and hitpoints it has. 

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View PostLycopersicon, on 20 August 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

It was castrated beyond recognition during the big light tank overhaul. Used to be the ultimate scout tank, now it is... something of a medium tank with underwhelming firepower.

Yeah, light tank with less accuracy than the 122mm Soviet guns?  What could make it a bad tank?

 

It lost speed, accuracy, rate of fire...

Of course it doesn't see the same enemies any more, but it's like the ELC, it's lost all that made it fun.






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