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armandio #1 Posted 20 August 2017 - 11:01 PM

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Welcome to GM and CW Discussion Thread!!!

 

Feel free to discuss everything about GM and CW here.Idea of this thread comes from binmaa10(ESL admin, OM clan member).

Let's start.:)

But remember, we need quality here, not quantity, so for spam, whining, crying and personal insults You can go to off topic thread.:)


Edited by armandio, 21 August 2017 - 03:32 AM.


armandio #2 Posted 20 August 2017 - 11:03 PM

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Manuel1324 said:

 

They just need to adopt the system from advances, where clans can ready up to start the battle ahead of time. Add to this that in a landing you wont get kicked out of the special battle room but rather stay in it with "enemy unknown". As soon as all teams from the previous round have finished their battles, enemies can be assigned and (if both teams are ready) again start ahead of time.

Another change to landings, I could think of in respect to seeing some clans having to do their defenses very late (and often at an unknown time/staying up till 01 AM to find the last two clans played a draw), would be splitting them into two stages. With stage one being the landing tournament and stage two the actual battle vs owner. This way, one could put a fixed prime time on the battle vs owner and always have the winning team from last nights tournament play it, no matter if the actual tournament (aka stage 1) that day would have finished hours later. This would make holding landings more calculable yet also more of a challenge, as right now they tend to be the only battles a clan has at a late time, giving them always the opportunity to use their best team on defending them and also in most situations not having to account for them when it come to battle planing/team count (can we fill all battles or not). By moving the battle vs owner to a fixed and normal time, WG can increase the pressure holding a landing puts on clans, as then they will have to always fill *amount of landing* + x teams if they want to expand/defend other provinces and make it easier for clans to land as they wont need to directly beat the owners best team to even set food on the map (And if WG finds the pressure this would create to high, one could move it to like prime time + 30 mins (When clans normally have less battles) or even have them assigned to a later/earlier prime time). Downside of this would of course be the fact that landing would turn from a one day act to a two day act (although one could use the second day to play another tournament and therefore have another battle vs owner on the 3rd day).

 

Edited by Manuel1324, Yesterday, 10:53 PM.



armandio #3 Posted 20 August 2017 - 11:09 PM

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View Postarmandio, on 21 August 2017 - 12:03 AM, said:

Manuel1324 said:

 

They just need to adopt the system from advances, where clans can ready up to start the battle ahead of time. Add to this that in a landing you wont get kicked out of the special battle room but rather stay in it with "enemy unknown". As soon as all teams from the previous round have finished their battles, enemies can be assigned and (if both teams are ready) again start ahead of time.

Another change to landings, I could think of in respect to seeing some clans having to do their defenses very late (and often at an unknown time/staying up till 01 AM to find the last two clans played a draw), would be splitting them into two stages. With stage one being the landing tournament and stage two the actual battle vs owner. This way, one could put a fixed prime time on the battle vs owner and always have the winning team from last nights tournament play it, no matter if the actual tournament (aka stage 1) that day would have finished hours later. This would make holding landings more calculable yet also more of a challenge, as right now they tend to be the only battles a clan has at a late time, giving them always the opportunity to use their best team on defending them and also in most situations not having to account for them when it come to battle planing/team count (can we fill all battles or not). By moving the battle vs owner to a fixed and normal time, WG can increase the pressure holding a landing puts on clans, as then they will have to always fill *amount of landing* + x teams if they want to expand/defend other provinces and make it easier for clans to land as they wont need to directly beat the owners best team to even set food on the map (And if WG finds the pressure this would create to high, one could move it to like prime time + 30 mins (When clans normally have less battles) or even have them assigned to a later/earlier prime time). Downside of this would of course be the fact that landing would turn from a one day act to a two day act (although one could use the second day to play another tournament and therefore have another battle vs owner on the 3rd day).

 

Edited by Manuel1324, Yesterday, 10:53 PM.

 

Honestly I dont like the idea to make GM battle forming format the same as Advances.

GM have own, unique battle forming system.It must stay unique.Thats the GM style and difference from other battle modes.

But if You can offer another unique battle forming style for GM, be welcome to give us Your proposals.

 

I just want to reduce battle waiting time on GM.Cause its very annoying to wait 30 minutes next battle in battle tournament.You can make 1 battle in random, but if You make 2nd battle in random then everybody start to worry where You are, please come out of random, fast come to GM.:)

Wargaming must improve GM tournament battles forming code.Maybe 20 minutes are enough till next battle.


Edited by armandio, 20 August 2017 - 11:14 PM.


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Man what is this.. please staph this monologe...

Seriosly.

 



armandio #5 Posted 20 August 2017 - 11:51 PM

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This is not monologue.

Its just promoting new CW topic.

As I announce, stop insult personally, if You have nothing to say about CW, You can easy leave this topic.

If You have something to discuss about CW, feel free to talk here.No discrimination here.

 


Edited by armandio, 20 August 2017 - 11:53 PM.


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View PostGriva, on 20 August 2017 - 11:36 PM, said:

Man what is this.. please staph this monologe...

Seriosly.

 

 

Stop talking sh..it to armandio.He is ok.

Griva #7 Posted 21 August 2017 - 01:07 AM

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Excluding Frontlines - there are 9999 other topics about crying to WG "change this, change that".

The problem is that you do everything wrong and actually no one care what you say because its simply bad or make no sense.

Thats all, GL in shitposting.

 

View Postkerosine, on 21 August 2017 - 12:56 AM, said:

Stop talking sh..it to armandio.He is ok.

 



armandio #8 Posted 21 August 2017 - 01:59 AM

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View PostGriva, on 21 August 2017 - 02:07 AM, said:

Excluding Frontlines - there are 9999 other topics about crying to WG "change this, change that".

The problem is that you do everything wrong and actually no one care what you say because its simply bad or make no sense.

Thats all, GL in shitposting.

 

 

 

Thats just Your opinion.Keep it with You Mister Perfect.

You remind me red players in random.If You told them let's go left, they never listen You, they always do oposite movement. :trollface:

We can see same sh.it here.I told dont insult personally here, You dont listen but start do that shi.t.Like i expected.

If You have antipathies against me just stop argue with me and continue posting Your stupid, useless, hate speech posts in other threads. You never offer or talk something valuable, just crap.

P.S. Dont talk about Frontlines.I check last 5 pages of Frontlines.That total crap You call good thread about CW? Last 5 pages You just talk crap things and post porno GIF animations.:trollface:Please dont compare my thread with that crap You call Frontline, and dont try to make here the same crap.Thanks.


Edited by armandio, 21 August 2017 - 02:17 AM.


binmaa10 #9 Posted 21 August 2017 - 06:10 AM

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Well tbh it was really my suggestion, that we would nedd a change to discuss changes in CW in a proper way. But this would need stricter moderation and at first I would wait how the new Season turns out.

 

Because tbh in most of the Threads I read here the constructive posts are hidden between 90% useless spam.

 

Btw its not about copying the Advances at all but just the interface where you do not need to join the new battle after every match. Plus the part that the battle starts when both teams are ready that you do not have to wait the full countdown everytime.



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View Postbinmaa10, on 21 August 2017 - 07:10 AM, said:

Well tbh it was really my suggestion, that we would nedd a change to discuss changes in CW in a proper way. But this would need stricter moderation and at first I would wait how the new Season turns out.

 

Because tbh in most of the Threads I read here the constructive posts are hidden between 90% useless spam.

 

Btw its not about copying the Advances at all but just the interface where you do not need to join the new battle after every match. Plus the part that the battle starts when both teams are ready that you do not have to wait the full countdown everytime.

 

 

Honestly I cant understand how tf some personalities from EU forum want to impact WG and make changes if they talk crap in serious threads.

How WG can sort out something valuable from 99% whining, crying, spamming, personal insulting posts?!?:trollface:

First my thought was ask You, to make that topic You mention, cause I know that if I made such topic, then here comes Griva and my other haters and spam full topic.:trollface:

Honestly I had same thought as You, to take part of battle style from advance, cause I hate that annoying feeling when You must wait CW battles 30 minutes.

30 minutes battle waiting is good only for 1 thing, You can attend WC when waiting CW.   :trollface:

 

I have such idea, mixed with Your idea-

1.when CW tournament starts, WG can make popup battle window like Advances in game client for CW tournaments,  but there must be enlisted ALL teams who take part in tournament, already formed by pairs,

2. and make ready button for Your clan and enemy clans, and if all 30 players from 1 pair is ready they can start battle immediately, same for other pairs, and if players not ready, battle starts anyway after 5 minutes,

3. also in that CW tournament window in game client You can see which team still fighting( maybe even can show how many tanks left in each team for that pair), which pair already finish battles, and no need to go to GM,

4. that window not disappearing after win battle, but disappear if Your clan lose battle.

Only, anyway You must wait when longest battle pair finish battle and MM must form again pairs, to sort teams by new ELO.I hope synchronization code from game client to GM cant be too complex and system braking,

But it is also good idea You propose, that can reduce stupid 30 minutes battle waiting time.Maybe no need stupid unique system if that system makes frustration...


Edited by armandio, 21 August 2017 - 10:23 AM.


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View Postarmandio, on 21 August 2017 - 02:59 AM, said:

 

Thats just Your opinion.Keep it with You Mister Perfect.

You remind me red players in random.If You told them let's go left, they never listen You, they always do oposite movement. :trollface:

We can see same sh.it here.I told dont insult personally here, You dont listen but start do that shi.t.Like i expected.

If You have antipathies against me just stop argue with me and continue posting Your stupid, useless, hate speech posts in other threads. You never offer or talk something valuable, just crap.

P.S. Dont talk about Frontlines.I check last 5 pages of Frontlines.That total crap You call good thread about CW? Last 5 pages You just talk crap things and post porno GIF animations.:trollface:Please dont compare my thread with that crap You call Frontline, and dont try to make here the same crap.Thanks.

 

You don't understand, It's not like I hate or something - I just don't like crapyou are writing. What I say and if it is good or bad this is just your opinion and you do it because I nagated your stupid ideas in prev posts in other threads.

Also again you mark single person as "you" as group - you do it all the time, no one gave you any rights to put single anyone you want to one single bag. Also it only signs that you separated your person from the rest of the world.

To your information - people create community, not single armandio, community is bored and map is frozen atm so there is nothing to talk about CW. You can talk here about changes or "WG should this and that" but it changes nothing because this is only your personal opinion and there are very few people who shares it.

But let say that they share it and they post here - this still changes nothing because this is just common discussion :(

 

Do you know? When I seen GM 2.0 for the first time I known it would be great fail, what actually happened and we can see it now but more than 1,5 YEAR ago I made thread with changes for global map. Do you know what was there?

Probably no, because i have always nothing to say. It was exactly the same what WG changed now. Some people posted, liked, commented and also I was not the one who made something like this but nothing changed at that time because its not enough.

 

WG need to see profit to change something.   Even if you make great thread with great ideas, what is next?

 

View Postbinmaa10, on 21 August 2017 - 07:10 AM, said:

Well tbh it was really my suggestion, that we would nedd a change to discuss changes in CW in a proper way. But this would need stricter moderation and at first I would wait how the new Season turns out.

 

Because tbh in most of the Threads I read here the constructive posts are hidden between 90% useless spam.

 

Btw its not about copying the Advances at all but just the interface where you do not need to join the new battle after every match. Plus the part that the battle starts when both teams are ready that you do not have to wait the full countdown everytime.

 

Idea is good but this is simply not possible and pointless as I said because WG don't care and if they do - it's rare..

Possibility to ready up your team and start your battle before time is good idea but only this, changin time of waiting and other things, maybe can be shorter but in general I think players want to relax in game, not to stress all the time between battles. When I remember last event and battles every 15mins - its' ***** armageddon, people don't know where to go/play and they didn't have even moment to take pee pee break because they have to play all the time from 19 to 23.

 

 

 

PS armandio, it's annoying that person who has only 150 battles in total on GMX (where 60% porbably during events) has the most to say about CW, you are "I don't know much about it but Im going to talk about it"



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View PostGriva, on 21 August 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

 

You don't understand, It's not like I hate or something - I just don't like crapyou are writing. What I say and if it is good or bad this is just your opinion and you do it because I nagated your stupid ideas in prev posts in other threads.

Also again you mark single person as "you" as group - you do it all the time, no one gave you any rights to put single anyone you want to one single bag. Also it only signs that you separated your person from the rest of the world.

To your information - people create community, not single armandio, community is bored and map is frozen atm so there is nothing to talk about CW. You can talk here about changes or "WG should this and that" but it changes nothing because this is only your personal opinion and there are very few people who shares it.

But let say that they share it and they post here - this still changes nothing because this is just common discussion :(

 

Do you know? When I seen GM 2.0 for the first time I known it would be great fail, what actually happened and we can see it now but more than 1,5 YEAR ago I made thread with changes for global map. Do you know what was there?

Probably no, because i have always nothing to say. It was exactly the same what WG changed now. Some people posted, liked, commented and also I was not the one who made something like this but nothing changed at that time because its not enough.

 

WG need to see profit to change something.   Even if you make great thread with great ideas, what is next?

 

 

Idea is good but this is simply not possible and pointless as I said because WG don't care and if they do - it's rare..

Possibility to ready up your team and start your battle before time is good idea but only this, changin time of waiting and other things, maybe can be shorter but in general I think players want to relax in game, not to stress all the time between battles. When I remember last event and battles every 15mins - its' ***** armageddon, people don't know where to go/play and they didn't have even moment to take pee pee break because they have to play all the time from 19 to 23.

 

 

 

PS armandio, it's annoying that person who has only 150 battles in total on GMX (where 60% porbably during events) has the most to say about CW, you are "I don't know much about it but Im going to talk about it"

 

As I mention before, You always ONLY criticize, You never give Your ideas, cause You have no own ideas, You have empty head, cause You are from that sort of people who always criticizing everything, they are always unsatisfied with anything, they always are in bad mood, and negative face expression, they only get pleasure when they talk some sh.it to people and they see that people start to be excited, then they feel themselves very good.

 

You said: " community is bored".

Before You said:"Also again you mark single person as "you" as group "

So You can name Yourself as group and I cant? :)

 

I just wanna make quality thread about CW, and when You discuss sometimes You can get spark with cool ideas for GM, after we can make survey, make petition, sign it with many clans and give it to WG, and if WG not listening us, we can make own EU movement with name like maybe "Los Pepes":trollface:

We can make quality ideas for CW and impact WG with quantity of players. :) That were done with CONTRAS movement in RU server, EU just use that movement, cause we also wanted change GM and also RU server asked our help.

That I saw first time, direct impact on WG, WG phone CONTRAS movement next day :trollface:after they officially stated their plans.

But many people in this forum just talk crap in specific threads and hope that something will be changed that way.

 

In russian forums I read info that WG have no profit from GM, so Your argument "WG need to see profit to change something." is without value.

WG were listening CONTRAS cause they afraid of "negative blizzard effect" if they ignore CONTRAS.

 

Let's see how GM vers. 3.0 will work first. After talk.:)

Are You lucky with 6 season GM concept? You like it? You like all?

28. EU didnt start GM, cause RU servers are planning WoT update 9.20 at 29 August, so EU gets that update in 30. I dont think WG will start GM EU in 28, after only 2 days freeze in 30, I think they will start EU GM after game update.

 

Better is battles after every 15 minutes, 2hours total, then 5 battles after every 30 minutes total 6 hours all evening, just useless spam of time.It's not possible for family people to stay 6 hours at PC.Not every family people can stay beside PC 6 hours 1month every evening like last stupid event.I think You know the feeling when You sit at PC just 1 Hour and Your wife already start shout on You: "Stop camping at PC!Give me attention!"So I wanna say that CW tank reward events must be max 2 weeks long, not 1 whole month.

 

P.S. If I had only 15 battles on GM You can criticize me, but I have even more then Your mentioned 150 battles. Dont use noobmeter.

There is no need to know for CEO of Mercedes car company how to connect two screws or wires in Mercedes latest car faster and better then any Mercedes simple worker, to successfully lead and manage the company.

It's not annoying but very predictable that player who played 1500 :teethhappy:battles with arty-pig in GM and 5000 :amazed:battles with arty in Random have no own ideas for GM and he just criticize everything...

I dont think Your brains are working properly after 5000 battles with arty-pig in Random.You have 2000 battles only on T92.:angry:That influence is very recognizable in Your posts.:trollface:

 

P.P.S. I made impact on WG.WG ask feedback about Ranked, I did thread with poll, and WG reduce arty quantity in next Ranked season to only 2 arty, as I predict.Just 183 players were voted.

http://forum.worldof...tles/page__hl__ poll ranked battles#topmost


Edited by armandio, 22 August 2017 - 06:07 AM.


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Get a room you two...

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View Postarmandio, on 22 August 2017 - 01:52 AM, said:

As I mention before, You always ONLY criticize, You never give Your ideas, cause You have no own ideas, You have empty head, cause You are from that sort of people who always criticizing everything, they are always unsatisfied with anything, they always are in bad mood, and negative face expression, they only get pleasure when they talk some sh.it to people and they see that people start to be excited, then they feel themselves very good.

Only if its you :)

 

View Postarmandio, on 22 August 2017 - 01:52 AM, said:

Before You said:"Also again you mark single person as "you" as group "

So You can name Yourself as group and I cant? :)

I just wanna make quality thread about CW, and when You discuss sometimes You can get spark with cool ideas for GM, after we can make survey, make petition, sign it with many clans and give it to WG, and if WG not listening us, we can make own EU movement with name like maybe "Los Pepes":trollface:

 

This is fact and it's not secret, for some reson I can't find any super interesting constructive threads about GM, wonder why

 

View Postarmandio, on 22 August 2017 - 01:52 AM, said:

That I saw first time, direct impact on WG, WG phone CONTRAS movement next day :trollface:after they officially stated their plans.

But many people in this forum just talk crap in specific threads and hope that something will be changed that way.

 

This is what you do...

 

View Postarmandio, on 22 August 2017 - 01:52 AM, said:

In russian forums I read info that WG have no profit from GM, so Your argument "WG need to see profit to change something." is without value.You have no proofs that WG need to see profit to change something, also I have no proofs that WG have no profit from GM, just rumours.

My opinion is that WG can make profit from GM.

WG were listening CONTRAS cause they afraid of "negative blizzard effect" if they ignore CONTRAS.

 

Lul, you negating my argument and 1 line later you negating your own counter argument? for real? I have no proofs, maybe only this that WG is company? if you don't know why companies exist you can check in goooooooogle.

if you don't get it - avoiding lose of money is profit for WG and also fixing factor having influence on your earning is still the same, WG need reason and example you said - it is still profit...

 

View Postarmandio, on 22 August 2017 - 01:52 AM, said:

P.S. If I had only 15 battles on GM You can criticize me, but I have even more then Your mentioned 150 battles. Dont use noobmeter.

There is no need to know for CEO of Mercedes car company how to connect two screws or wires in Mercedes latest car faster and better then any Mercedes simple worker, to successfully lead and manage the company.

 

It's not noobmeter but I conclude that both shows the same :girl:. also wrong example - using your story, that poor CEO trying to make tips to very well qualified worker who know these cars 100 times better than CEO, this is what you did.

but when you say "I have even more", 10 more? 20 more? Are you trying to say that you reroled your account or what (nice stats then.)?

 

View Postarmandio, on 22 August 2017 - 01:52 AM, said:

It's not annoying but very predictable that player who played 1500 :teethhappy:battles with arty-pig in GM and 5000 :amazed:battles with arty in Random have no own ideas for GM and he just criticize everything...

I dont think Your brains are working properly after 5000 battles with arty-pig in Random.You have 2000 battles only on T92.:angry:That influence is very recognizable in Your posts.:trollface:

P.P.S. Dont take personally my jokes about Your arty play, I am just joking.:)

 

Nice try but it's not good way to insult me xD  Feel very well as dank [edited], thank you for compliments :D

 

View Postarmandio, on 22 August 2017 - 01:52 AM, said:

P.P.P.S. I made impact on WG.WG ask feedback about Ranked, I did thread with poll, and WG reduce arty quantity in next Ranked season to only 2 arty, as I predict.Just 183 players were voted.

http://forum.worldof...tles/page__hl__ poll ranked battles#topmost

 

No need to be good strategist to predict something like this, also I don't think that 183 players had so big influence on 700.000 (or more) playerbase of this game. Its not working like this.

 

 

PS I think you again didn't read everything what i wrote and yes, my head is empty now because all my ideas are here from more than 1 year.

I know it's pointless to argue with you because you don't care/read so im going to stop here, GL with this great thread then.

 

 



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Bye bye Griva.

As I said You have no own ideas.Stop playing arty so much.:trollface: You have 2000 battles in T92, 1200 battles in M40/43, 1000 battles in CGC, in random, omg, omg, and I try to discuss with You.Go away from me bad ghost, go away!Please dont reply on my posts.I am superstitious.Go away from me.:trollface:

 

You use critics as argument, it's annoying to discuss with You.

 

P.S. Griva, You forget to position Yourself in Your GM.:D:facepalm::teethhappy:


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Haha ;) Great picture by Picasso ... Haven't seen it before. Where did u  found it? :trollface:

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In another thread. he just edited it for Griva.

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Ah its great

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View PostDEUTSCHERPanzerKiller, on 23 August 2017 - 12:54 PM, said:

Haha ;) Great picture by Picasso ... Haven't seen it before. Where did u  found it? :trollface:

 

In Frontline thread.:trollface: There You can find many crap...

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View Postarmandio, on 22 August 2017 - 07:10 AM, said:

Bye bye Griva.

As I said You have no own ideas.Stop playing arty so much.:trollface: You have 2000 battles in T92, 1200 battles in M40/43, 1000 battles in CGC, in random, omg, omg, and I try to discuss with You.Go away from me bad ghost, go away!Please dont reply on my posts.I am superstitious.Go away from me.:trollface:

 

LOL you have 900+ battles in SU8. At least he can click...i bet you are that type of clicker bob that doesn't know his arty has also an engine. 


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