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Poll: Most stupid map in WOT (123 members have cast votes)

You have to complete 250 battles in order to participate this poll.

Which map(s) do you think should be removed or reworked. or are just plain stupid:

  1. Abbey (28 votes [3.44%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.44%

  2. Cliff (16 votes [1.97%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.97%

  3. Ensk (28 votes [3.44%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.44%

  4. Fiery Salient (10 votes [1.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.23%

  5. Voted Fisherman's Bay (14 votes [1.72%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.72%

  6. Fjords (15 votes [1.85%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.85%

  7. Ghost Town (5 votes [0.62%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.62%

  8. Highway (35 votes [4.31%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.31%

  9. Himmelsdorf (14 votes [1.72%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.72%

  10. Karelia (8 votes [0.98%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.98%

  11. Lakeville (13 votes [1.60%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.60%

  12. Live Oaks (14 votes [1.72%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.72%

  13. Malinovka (10 votes [1.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.23%

  14. Mines (31 votes [3.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.81%

  15. Mittengard (23 votes [2.83%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.83%

  16. Mountain Pass (26 votes [3.20%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.20%

  17. Murovanka (7 votes [0.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.86%

  18. Overlord (30 votes [3.69%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.69%

  19. Prokhorovka (10 votes [1.23%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.23%

  20. Redshire (7 votes [0.86%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.86%

  21. Ruinberg (18 votes [2.21%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.21%

  22. Serene Coast (6 votes [0.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.74%

  23. Siegfried Line (17 votes [2.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.09%

  24. Stalingrad (53 votes [6.52%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.52%

  25. Steppes (6 votes [0.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.74%

  26. Voted Swamp (9 votes [1.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.11%

  27. Tundra (24 votes [2.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.95%

  28. Westfield (5 votes [0.62%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.62%

  29. Widepark (19 votes [2.34%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.34%

  30. Arctic Region (13 votes [1.60%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.60%

  31. Erlenberg (17 votes [2.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.09%

  32. Kharkov (51 votes [6.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.27%

  33. Voted Sacred Valley (25 votes [3.08%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.08%

  34. Windstorm (26 votes [3.20%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.20%

  35. Winter Himmelsdorf (19 votes [2.34%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.34%

  36. Winterberg (13 votes [1.60%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.60%

  37. Airfield (16 votes [1.97%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 1.97%

  38. El Halluf (6 votes [0.74%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.74%

  39. Sand River (8 votes [0.98%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.98%

  40. Voted Paris (69 votes [8.49%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.49%

  41. Voted Pilsen (49 votes [6.03%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.03%

  42. Nebelburg (Grand Battle) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

And which maps, which were removed in the past, you would want to see again?

  1. Dragon Ridge (67 votes [11.53%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.53%

  2. Hidden Village (60 votes [10.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.33%

  3. Komarin (58 votes [9.98%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.98%

  4. Northwest (62 votes [10.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.67%

  5. Voted Pearl River (79 votes [13.60%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.60%

  6. Province (43 votes [7.40%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.40%

  7. Ruinberg on fire (25 votes [4.30%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.30%

  8. Severogorsk (55 votes [9.47%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.47%

  9. Voted South Coast (71 votes [12.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 12.22%

  10. Port (61 votes [10.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 10.50%

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ebasii #1 Posted 21 August 2017 - 01:53 AM

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Hello guys and gals,

It is clear to everyone, I think, that several maps do not deserve to exist (or have to be reworked) in order to have more smooth and enjoyable games. At least for the EU servers, which have totally different playstyle than NA and RU servers.

Most of the map changes are just made because they dont suit for example RU cluster, but that totally ruins the EU cluster, for example.

So, its time for us to vote! The EU cluster deserves his voice to be heard. 
So EU will VOTE for what they like and what they do not!

Poll rules are clear: Which map(s) you do not like. Whatever the reason. Shall it be base positioning or certain team advantage, or you just dont feel good on it - just click on it.
And the second one - there were few maps removed over time. I. personally, think that it wasnt really necessary to do so (at least for some) and I think that many others feel the same about it. So there is another poll for the maps which should be brought back.

So, please VOTE!

If you are not sure about which map is which, check this link:
http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Maps

EDIT:
Feel free to vote for all maps you do not like/wish to be brought back. It is MULTIPLE CHOICE poll !

And thank you for sharing your opinion!

Edited by ebasii, 30 August 2017 - 06:51 PM.


laulaur #2 Posted 21 August 2017 - 02:12 AM

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I think you forgot to add Paris and Pilsen, one of the worst maps ever.

ebasii #3 Posted 21 August 2017 - 04:11 AM

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View Postlaulaur, on 21 August 2017 - 01:12 AM, said:

I think you forgot to add Paris and Pilsen, one of the worst maps ever.

 

Yeah, you're right. They are. I'll edit it.
Thanks!

Balc0ra #4 Posted 21 August 2017 - 04:13 AM

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No port either. As that map unlike the others was removed for new gameplay mechanics. Not lemming fails or campers.

Edited by Balc0ra, 21 August 2017 - 04:13 AM.


ebasii #5 Posted 21 August 2017 - 04:16 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 21 August 2017 - 03:13 AM, said:

No port either. As that map unlike the others was removed for new gameplay mechanics. Not lemming fails or campers.

 

Added.
Thanks for observation and suggestions!

Toni112007 #6 Posted 21 August 2017 - 05:18 AM

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Remove any campfest map like Malinovka. Add back Pearl River and Northwest.

Edited by Toni112007, 21 August 2017 - 05:20 AM.


thestaggy #7 Posted 21 August 2017 - 06:01 AM

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Delete Paris! Nao!!!2@1!

ebasii #8 Posted 21 August 2017 - 07:16 AM

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View Postthestaggy, on 21 August 2017 - 05:01 AM, said:

Delete Paris! Nao!!!2@1!

 

Well, truly Paris is quite different and unique, but definitely needs some rework. Right now it just feels like another (better) Ensk copy...

Aikl #9 Posted 21 August 2017 - 07:47 AM

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If you take a minute to think, consider that any "bad" maps suffer from one or more of two-three common problems.
* Basecamping
* Getting shot at when travelling into position.
* Useless "noob flank" (partly related to the above) or useless "open dynamic area".

Funny how that seems to be every map except Himmelsdorf, more or less. Also, maps are superior to their standard variant in Encounter or Assault mode, or at least not worse.

 

Voted for all on rework/removal except Himmelsdorf and Steppes.
Voted for all except Province on reintroduction; as crap as Komarin and Severogorsk were back in the day, they are now above average - from what I can remember. Requires some reworks still. Northwest is nice, but too large and imbalanced. Dragon's Ridge is too large.


Edited by Aikl, 21 August 2017 - 07:49 AM.


Merton15 #10 Posted 21 August 2017 - 08:02 AM

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Would have voted for the removal of Mines and Ensk except they are OK for lower tier battles, just too small for high tiers. I forgot to vote for Province which in my opinion should replace Mittengard as it does teach noobs a thing or two. Actually Mittengard does teach them things, the wrong things.

PowJay #11 Posted 21 August 2017 - 08:57 AM

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I have no major problems with most maps except Ensk. I hate it with a passion. My issue is the way that the teams deploy on those maps- and it is getting worse.

 

Lakeville. It used to be that half the team would go to the valley or cover it. The other half would take to the rest of the map. Now (from the south) half the team takes to the valley, two take the lakeside road and the rest of the team camps on the bottom line, ignoring the town all together until the enemy storm through and win.

 

Arctic Region starting south west. WHY THE [EDITED] DOES EVERYONE STORM OFF EAST and ignore the north west almost every battle?

 

Kharkov. Let's all go to the centre and all but completely ignore the south east corner.

 

And they are all like this. Players deploy how they want, with no regard to tank or tier or where anyone or everyone else is going. I HATE empty flanks and I often go there alone. I get criticised for taking the "wrong" tank to some locations but if I didn't go, then hell, no-one would.

 

My other issue with maps is rotation. Those days when you get the same ones- or types- over and over again. Play LTs and you get Kharkov, Stalingrad, Himmelsdorf and then, just for variety, WINTER Himmelsdorf. In 100 battles that I recorded details of- some time ago now- I had Pearl River ten to twelve times. AT LEAST 10% over several days. THAT is my main grief with maps.



thestaggy #12 Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:00 AM

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View Postebasii, on 21 August 2017 - 07:16 AM, said:

 

Well, truly Paris is quite different and unique, but definitely needs some rework. Right now it just feels like another (better) Ensk copy...

 

It is the one map I do not know what to do no matter what tank I am playing. Everywhere I go I end up in a corridor where I either get trapped by the enemy or shot to pieces. Even the open side is a corridor with no way out if you get pinned down.

 

In comparison I find Ensk to be a lot better, even when in a light.


Edited by thestaggy, 21 August 2017 - 09:01 AM.


ebasii #13 Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:28 AM

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Hmmm... Surprisingly maps like Malinovka and other arty-friendly maps seem to be okay, despite the endless cry "no arty plz they ruin gamezz plox nerfs dem" all around... Time and more votes will tell I guess...

unhappy_bunny #14 Posted 21 August 2017 - 10:25 AM

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No option for "None of the above". 

MattieW #15 Posted 21 August 2017 - 10:27 AM

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I'm surprised there are so many maps looking at the list.

i seem to continually get the same 5 maps over and over again, I even start on the same side almost every time.



Chuwt #16 Posted 21 August 2017 - 10:42 AM

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Clearly there are going to be some maps (or even a lot of maps) that a given player does not like, because they do not suit their chosen play style, or tank choice.

However, it is important to bear in mind that the play style is a total choice, and the tank chosen is also a choice, admittedly one which must be made before you know the map. Instead of moaning that a map does not suit your style, and should be removed, you should be more flexible how you play the map. Maybe the same could be said about tank choice.
Secondly, asking for maps to be removed is a dubious option, as another common complaint is not enough maps, or seeing the same maps over and over again..be careful what you wish for!

Clearly some maps could do with a rework, and mines is not a suitable map for any except low tiers, but just because you do not like a map does not make it "bad" as such. In general I would say we need more large maps, and more open maps but clearly those who think only brawling with a heavy is fun will disagree: however, whether you like it or not, there are 5 classes (as well as a number of sub classes) and it is clear that melee heavies are not therefore the majority , certainly on the EU server.

 



Jigabachi #17 Posted 21 August 2017 - 10:48 AM

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The poll is completely useless because it makes no difference between "map sucks and should get removed" and "map is fine but needs some fixes".
ALL maps need certain fixes and improvements.

Jigabachi #18 Posted 21 August 2017 - 10:48 AM

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- double post -

Edited by Jigabachi, 21 August 2017 - 10:57 AM.


Bennie182 #19 Posted 21 August 2017 - 10:49 AM

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-Ensk is boring for most tank types. Don't have an actual idea how to bring good changes into this map yet.

 

-Mountain Pass needs rework in my opinion, as the north has a big advantage for spotting opportunities when people try to get into position. Either you camp at the bridge, or at the ice road, or you get your hp halfway for trying to go west, which is in my opinion the only part of the map to do a good push on.

 

-Stalingrad I don't like for most classes as well, except for heavies. I miss diversity here as well.

 

-Overlord is really tiring because of the useless beach a lot of players go for and break the match instantly. That part of the map just doesn't make any sense. Also I don't see any role for heavies, as where I usually see them, they are just free hp for the camping td's.

 

-Erlenberg is either go to castle and get rushed from the north or don't go there and you get Campinovka 2.0

Some more diversity would help a lot making that map more fun again.

 

-Mines I'm not sure if it needs rework, but I think it would be a cool idea if you can actually reach the hill from two sides. It will still be a dominant and key position on the map, but creates more diversity in the gameplay. Too much battles that create a stalemate on both the hill as well as the north-east corner of the hill.


Edited by Bennie182, 21 August 2017 - 11:12 AM.


BKatt #20 Posted 21 August 2017 - 10:49 AM

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Mines in tier 8+ is just an excersice in boredom, and should get lowtier restriction.

Pilsen, Paris and Overlord, all 3 should either be heavily reworked or flat out removed. The only problem with removing them, is we are already lacking maps.






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