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cro001 #1 Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:10 PM

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...Panther 2 is just as bad, if not worse. Seriously, why does Panther 2 receives a lot less flak for no reason. It's terrible.

Derethim #2 Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:14 PM

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Panther 1, 2, TVP VTL, Churchill GC... there is a lot of underpowered tanks. And the list keeps getting bigger with each patch.

The devs could really do something about lower tiers - especially the lowest ones didn't see any change for a long time. I'd hate to begin playing right now, it would be really frustrating with all those pom-poms and B2s on the lowest tiers. T7 to T2 could use some buffs and nerfs. The T67 is a bit broken too..


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Sessine #3 Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:15 PM

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At least it has a nice long gun?

qpranger #4 Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:15 PM

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Panther II is miles better.

Derethim #5 Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:16 PM

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View PostSessine, on 21 August 2017 - 11:15 PM, said:

At least it has a nice long gun?

 

That's a pencil.

cro001 #6 Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:31 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 21 August 2017 - 11:15 PM, said:

Panther II is miles better.

 

Hardly.

CoDiGGo #7 Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:37 PM

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I checked tanks.gg and panther 2 is just superior because 230 pen, dispersion and 8 depression

XxKuzkina_MatxX #8 Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:45 PM

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View PostCoDiGGo, on 22 August 2017 - 12:37 AM, said:

I checked tanks.gg and panther 2 is just superior because 230 pen, dispersion and 8 depression

 

Did you notice the crap dpm? :)

Balc0ra #9 Posted 22 August 2017 - 12:19 AM

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Because the Panther II is at least viable in a support role, and can carry as top tier.

STLR #10 Posted 22 August 2017 - 10:38 AM

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View Postcro001, on 21 August 2017 - 11:10 PM, said:

...Panther 2 is just as bad, if not worse. Seriously, why does Panther 2 receives a lot less flak for no reason. It's terrible.

 

i think it's actually better than tvp?!

eldrak #11 Posted 22 August 2017 - 11:24 AM

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Just did the powergrind through AMX AC48.

 

That's one horrible box shaped turd. It was long ago I lost so many 1vs1 duels vs tier 6 tanks in a tier 8.

If the french TD line was any popular there would be constant calls for buffs to it.

 

At least I managed to go through it in only 3 days with some help from heavy medication and twitch streams. (recents rekt)



Steel_Patriot #12 Posted 22 August 2017 - 11:38 AM

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I consider panther 2 a decent support med , for TVP to be  decent support first you need to find a bra big enough. TVP really is a pure pos

How_hard_can_it_be #13 Posted 22 August 2017 - 11:49 AM

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T-34-2 says hello.

Edited by How_hard_can_it_be, 22 August 2017 - 11:50 AM.


GalmTwo #14 Posted 22 August 2017 - 12:42 PM

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What does TVP have that Panther II doesn't? Better terrain resistance? 

qpranger #15 Posted 22 August 2017 - 12:57 PM

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View PostGalmTwo, on 22 August 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

What does TVP have that Panther II doesn't? Better terrain resistance? 

 

Better Defender resistance :)

ExclamationMark #16 Posted 22 August 2017 - 06:54 PM

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I played an almost completely stock VTU (think I started with only the top tracks and 8.8cm gun) in strongholds and found it surprisingly okay. I think people just like to sh!t on it. No it's not good. It's also not as bad as they say it is.

 

I agree with you. Hated the PT2. Pretty sure I completely free exped through it.



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Panther II is actually not even that bad

 

It's a solid all-rounder, certainly now that they gave it a 223mm pen gun. It has good aimtime but it is more sluggish.

 

Worst T8 mediums are anything with less than 200mm pen on the standard ammo in the current World of ArmourOverBuffing.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 22 August 2017 - 07:24 PM.


cro001 #18 Posted 22 August 2017 - 07:29 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 22 August 2017 - 07:23 PM, said:

Panther II is actually not even that bad

 

It's a solid all-rounder, certainly now that they gave it a 223mm pen gun. It has good aimtime but it is more sluggish.

 

Worst T8 mediums are anything with less than 200mm pen on the standard ammo in the current World of ArmourOverBuffing.

 

Cobra 6

 

WOW that Pershing powercreep lol.

tajj7 #19 Posted 22 August 2017 - 07:32 PM

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Panther 2 is certainly better since the gun change.

 

Panther 88 on the other hand......



brumbarr #20 Posted 23 August 2017 - 12:00 AM

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Been playing trough the pershing, and  I heard it was ' the second best tier8 med' and it was... crap. Its almost as bad as the tvp.

-It has no dpm ( less than tvp)

-The supposed gun handlign strengt isnt even that great , same gun handlign as tvp, or even worse.

-Slow, slower than tvp.

-Armor doesnt work.

 

This thing has nothing going for it , no good gun, no good armor, no speed. 






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