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_Anarchistic_ #1 Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:05 AM

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simple replay, E75 Prok, 2 arties, no fun

 

how is this supposed to be a fun game when you are focused game after game, and I am not a great player, not a unicum, how bad must it be for QB, Orzy etc

 

http://wotreplays.co...-stewie2ie-e_75

 

WG, until you accept you are morons and remove artillery you will only piss your player base off



laulaur #2 Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:14 AM

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Ohh, just wait for the arty-fanboys to come and explain to you how you must move all time and use the ''rechargeable consumables'' , and that the arty is in fact perfectly realistic and balanced.....

 The only thing that brings arty in this game is frustration and a bad gaming experience - not much fun when your crew is stunned all game, or when your poorly armored med/light/td got hit for 75% of his hp......



_Anarchistic_ #3 Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:19 AM

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View Postlaulaur, on 23 August 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

Ohh, just wait for the arty-fanboys to come and explain to you how you must move all time and use the ''rechargeable consumables'' , and that the arty is in fact perfectly realistic and balanced.....

 The only thing that brings arty in this game is frustration and a bad gaming experience - not much fun when your crew is stunned all game, or when your poorly armored med/light/td got hit for 75% of his hp......

 

​yep, behind ridgeline, no possible line of sight but they can still track me because of stupid spotting mechanics

not that the e75 going to dodge much!!

 

both their arties ended up top damage, 4.4k for the GW panther and 3.9k for the 212A


Edited by Stewie2ie, 23 August 2017 - 07:19 AM.


Shivvering #4 Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:29 AM

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View PostStewie2ie, on 23 August 2017 - 07:05 AM, said:

simple replay, E75 Prok, 2 arties, no fun

 

how is this supposed to be a fun game when you are focused game after game, and I am not a great player, not a unicum, how bad must it be for QB, Orzy etc

 

http://wotreplays.co...-stewie2ie-e_75

 

WG, until you accept you are morons and remove artillery you will only piss your player base off

 

Your WN8 doesn't matter. Most Arty players are Arty see, Arty click. If there are multiple targets, it's the lowest tier that they'll shoot first almost always.

 

Good arty players may not do this, but the vast majority do.



_Anarchistic_ #5 Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:37 AM

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View PostShivvering, on 23 August 2017 - 07:29 AM, said:

 

Your WN8 doesn't matter. Most Arty players are Arty see, Arty click. If there are multiple targets, it's the lowest tier that they'll shoot first almost always.

 

Good arty players may not do this, but the vast majority do.

 

​I try and play positive and win what I think at the key areas map, so maybe that's why I seem end up focused ? I am camping at the front as they say?

 

I do play arty but purely for missions, so I play the mission not the map so I may not be learning how to play arty properly?

 

 


Edited by Stewie2ie, 23 August 2017 - 07:38 AM.


Captain_Kremen0 #6 Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:53 AM

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You [edited]like a [edited]scouser with no Giro.

_Anarchistic_ #7 Posted 23 August 2017 - 07:58 AM

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View PostCaptain_Kremen0, on 23 August 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

You [edited]like a [edited]scouser with no Giro.

 

I am not a thief

 



Captain_Kremen0 #8 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:16 AM

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Nah just a whiner

laulaur #9 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:19 AM

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View PostCaptain_Kremen0, on 23 August 2017 - 07:16 AM, said:

Nah just a whiner

 

And here comes the first expert (in botting) :trollface:

Aikl #10 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:19 AM

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View PostStewie2ie, on 23 August 2017 - 06:37 AM, said:

 

​I try and play positive and win what I think at the key areas map, so maybe that's why I seem end up focused ? I am camping at the front as they say?

(...)

 

You must be camping, because artillery punishes camping ...right?

 

Jokes aside, artillery remains incredibly annoying if there are two-three of them on those kind of maps. Prokhorovka is notoriously bad for that reason - and if you try to play the middle you're likely the only one spotted most of the time. The main benefit of the 9.18 rework was that there are overall less artillery in the game, and that doing one mistake won't remove most of your HP (might still in your light and medium tank, but from experience that's mostly down to RNG).

If you for some reason end up getting focused, because removing guns (or good tanks/players) from the game is arguably beneficial, you can instead enjoy a slow death by being poked to death (while staying stunned so you can't "dodge" the other arties).

 

The rock near the middle lane can provide some cover, depending on where the enemy artillery is. It's also viable to stay more to the 4/5 line if the objective is to shoot the hill. You're less likely to get spotted that way. The 212A might even have some trouble splashing/hitting you on a slope if you move a bit back and forth. 

Generally there are some lanes, even on a particular flank, that are more artillery safe than others. Seeing as arty positions are typically the same (because they usually get a dip in the terrain to hide in), the same spots tend to work almost every game.



Hyster #11 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:37 AM

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arty is less annoying that the gold spamming "ELITE" players.

yet amazingly,

"gold is in the game, LIVE WITH IT. :trollface:"

"get rid of arty as its  spoils my stat padding . :child:"



Kartoshkaya #12 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:42 AM

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What annoys me even more, is that i have to play arty for the female crew in missions... Remove arty ffs

_Anarchistic_ #13 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:58 AM

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View PostHyster, on 23 August 2017 - 08:37 AM, said:

arty is less annoying that the gold spamming "ELITE" players.

yet amazingly,

"gold is in the game, LIVE WITH IT. :trollface:"

"get rid of arty as its  spoils my stat padding . :child:"

 

​gold is a small problem perhaps, but is at least a reasonable concept.  they artillery implementation is just pure bs

 

as for stat padding?  err how?



Kozzy #14 Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:04 AM

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I think you are mistaken and this replay is an anomaly.  Arty is a counter to camping, and especially those hidden, un-spotted, dug in TDs that 'nuke you for all your health' from the redline.  Arty is NOT there to shoot the tanks most likely to actually be spotted i.e. the mediums and heavies fighting each other for example on the middle ridge line on Prokhorovka.   ;)

jack_timber #15 Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:05 AM

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Last night in UDES taken out by Type 5, 1 shot. Not fair....

Oh sorry wrong page this is about arty.

Anyways last night took Bert 4 an outing kept a poor E75 perma tracked:) Very fair!

Another rant about arty.... How many more.....



_Anarchistic_ #16 Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:06 AM

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View Postjack_timber, on 23 August 2017 - 09:05 AM, said:

Last night in UDES taken out by Type 5, 1 shot. Not fair....

Oh sorry wrong page this is about arty.

Anyways last night took Bert 4 an outing kept a poor E75 perma tracked:) Very fair!

Another rant about arty.... How many more.....

 

until WG finally learn

 

edit  although I agree with the type 5, another stupid game mechanic

 


Edited by Stewie2ie, 23 August 2017 - 09:19 AM.


Spurtung #17 Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:11 AM

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View PostStewie2ie, on 23 August 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

both their arties ended up top damage, 4.4k for the GW panther and 3.9k for the 212A

What were your arties doing, then?

 

View PostStewie2ie, on 23 August 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

until WG finally learn

Perhaps you're the one that needs to learn to deal with it.


Edited by Spurtung, 23 August 2017 - 09:13 AM.


jack_timber #18 Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:14 AM

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View PostStewie2ie, on 23 August 2017 - 08:06 AM, said:

 

until WG finally learn

Nowt wrong with arty salt of the earth:) BTW reckon arty is here to stay. Got a nice buff recently so playing arty more now. CU out there:)

Meant to mention re title.... It's fun 4 arty!


Edited by jack_timber, 23 August 2017 - 09:17 AM.


_Anarchistic_ #19 Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:20 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 23 August 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

What were your arties doing, then?

 

Perhaps you're the one that needs to learn to deal with it.

 

good question, not much !!!

 

why? I am not in FAME



Spurtung #20 Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:21 AM

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View PostStewie2ie, on 23 August 2017 - 10:20 AM, said:

View PostSpurtung, on 23 August 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

What were your arties doing, then?

 

Perhaps you're the one that needs to learn to deal with it.

 

good question, not much !!!

 

why? I am not in FAME

 

 

So it's not so much about arties anymore, is it?

If yours sucked and theirs didn't, the rant is more about the ones playing it than anything else...

 

Then don't, keep babbling about it, so much more effective.


Edited by Spurtung, 23 August 2017 - 09:22 AM.





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