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HeinrichVonDoucheberg #1 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:41 PM

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Bought Black Prince and O-Ni today, in both of them in the 1st game I ended up in tier VIII game, with 5 tier VIII tanks and 10 tier VII tanks (I wasn't in platoon). So no more lower tiers then you in 1st game it seems. Was that changed with new matchmaking or later? I did make a ~2 months or so brake.

The_Baba_Yaga #2 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:43 PM

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I always thought that getting favourable matchmaking on your first game with a new tank was a myth.

Radu_Korne #3 Posted 23 August 2017 - 08:44 PM

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not the first game... more like, with stock tanks, but not always.

Spurtung #4 Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:42 PM

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I don't know what you're talking about, my 3 new tier 10s were top tier in their matches.

Baldrickk #5 Posted 23 August 2017 - 09:47 PM

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It's something that the MM tries to do for the first game only.

It was never guaranteed though. You could always not be top tier inn the first game before

Edited by Baldrickk, 24 August 2017 - 06:55 AM.


Alabamatick #6 Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:13 PM

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View PostThe_Baba_Yaga, on 23 August 2017 - 07:43 PM, said:

I always thought that getting favourable matchmaking on your first game with a new tank was a myth.

 

I think that's true, i never saw an official quote that it existed, there was a top tier (or favorable mm) 10 times for stock tanks in patch 0.7.x but it screwed the mm so much it only lasted for 1 patch and was then removed

 

i've lost count of the times i've posted that



Balc0ra #7 Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:18 PM

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Not really sure. Not bought a new tank in since 9.18. And before the rule was "if MM allows" it. If you buy it at 5 AM and he can only find +2 games, then no.

 

Then again the new player protection on low tiers is gone with the new MM. So who knows.



lafeel #8 Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:21 PM

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TBH I think that one's always been a myth.

Yakito #9 Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:53 PM

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None for me.

My new panther was fully stock fighting against tier IX. Fun...



brisha #10 Posted 23 August 2017 - 11:59 PM

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For nearly 5 years I always played a new tank's first battle solo because of this and it has never let me down, always top tier every time.

 

But just recently this has changed, this new MM has even screwed that up.



Baldrickk #11 Posted 24 August 2017 - 06:56 AM

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View Postbrisha, on 23 August 2017 - 11:59 PM, said:

For nearly 5 years I always played a new tank's first battle solo because of this and it has never let me down, always top tier every time.

 

But just recently this has changed, this new MM has even screwed that up.

As I said before, the MM was always free to put you in any matchup, it just tried to put you top tier before. 

No comment on what it does now.  Haven't played enough since the MM change to be able to buy any new tanks



TheDrownedApe #12 Posted 24 August 2017 - 07:36 AM

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I've been top tier in everyone of my new tanks first games since I can remember. 

 

however it stopped when I recently bought the O-I and found myself facing tier 8s in my first battle



thestaggy #13 Posted 24 August 2017 - 07:44 AM

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I started the British Firefly medium line last night and my M2; Stuart I-IV and Grant were all top-tier in their first battles. 

Geno1isme #14 Posted 24 August 2017 - 08:36 AM

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Forget all the little MM-details of the past. They completely scrapped the MM with 9.18 and rewrote it from scratch, so only rules explicitly documented in 9.18 or later still apply.

MrClark56 #15 Posted 24 August 2017 - 10:15 AM

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the minute you upgrade anything on the tank, your chance of being top tier fades away.... now with new MM... it is even worse.

Edited by MrClark56, 24 August 2017 - 10:15 AM.


Jumping_Turtle #16 Posted 24 August 2017 - 10:44 AM

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View PostMrClark56, on 24 August 2017 - 10:15 AM, said:

the minute you upgrade anything on the tank, your chance of being top tier fades away.... now with new MM... it is even worse.

 

I never play with stock tanks and was always top tier when playing solo random battles with a new tank.

alienslive #17 Posted 24 August 2017 - 10:45 AM

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I bought the Maus and I was top tier with stock tank:P

eldrak #18 Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:10 AM

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My impression is that the top tier in first game rule still exists. 

However if matchmaker doesn't take you to battle straight away you should cancel and repress Battle as it can take you to other tiers if it doesn't find a suitable game within a short time.

 

Yesterday I was in a game with scout in only one of the teams. Not sure what happened there as it was during prime time. There might be some polishing to do yet on the matchmaker.



Geno1isme #19 Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:47 AM

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View Posteldrak, on 24 August 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

Yesterday I was in a game with scout in only one of the teams - perfectly within the rules, +-1 deviation is allowed. Not sure what happened there as it was during prime time. There might be some polishing scrapping to do yet on the matchmaker.

 



XPuntar #20 Posted 24 August 2017 - 05:28 PM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 24 August 2017 - 08:36 AM, said:

Forget all the little MM-details of the past. They completely scrapped the MM with 9.18 and rewrote it from scratch, so only rules explicitly documented in 9.18 or later still apply.

 

LOL

 

ROFL

 

 :trollface:

 

The only thing WG did is that they enforced 3/5/7 MM rule as a 1st priority to create a random battle!

 






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