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kaypol1998 #1 Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:38 PM

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My ideia is:

 

What is every player have 20% of the total capacity of the ammo of the tank , to shoot premium ammo!! ?

 

Example ! One tank can carry a total of 100 rounds, and a player can only carry 20 rounds of premium ammo ( 20% ) , what do you think about this matter?

 

P.S - Not Equal for all tanks , every tank should have different percentage , because of the different capaçity of the tank!!


Edited by kaypol1998, 24 August 2017 - 03:53 PM.


Spurtung #2 Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:42 PM

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Maus loves that idea.

Coldspell #3 Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:44 PM

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Then tanks with monstrous ammo capacity would have an advantage and gold spam super heavies like the type 4 would still be able to spam mostly full gold.

CmdRatScabies #4 Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:45 PM

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View Postkaypol1998, on 24 August 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

My ideia

 

Your idea?  Very original.

JuliusCheddar #5 Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:46 PM

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Great idea buddy, we totally don't see it multiple times every week and it totally doesn't lose any sense after 2 minutes of thinking about it. 

kaypol1998 #6 Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:46 PM

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View PostColdspell, on 24 August 2017 - 02:44 PM, said:

Then tanks with monstrous ammo capacity would have an advantage and gold spam super heavies like the type 4 would still be able to spam mostly full gold.

 

Well , but taht is an idea , not equal for all tanks i guess !!

 



jabster #7 Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:50 PM

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View Postkaypol1998, on 24 August 2017 - 02:38 PM, said:

My ideia is:

 

What is every player have 20% of the total capacity of the ammo of the tank , to shoot premium ammo!! ?

 

Example ! One tank can carry a total of 100 rounds, and a player can only carry 20 rounds of premium ammo ( 20% ) , what do you think about this matter?

 

How would I load full gold ammo on my Pz IC?

Spurtung #8 Posted 24 August 2017 - 03:51 PM

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View Postkaypol1998, on 24 August 2017 - 04:46 PM, said:

 

Well , but taht is an idea , not equal for all tanks i guess !!

 

 

Then I guess it's back to the drawing board until you come up with something that takes all of those variables into account...

_____Yarpen_____ #9 Posted 24 August 2017 - 04:01 PM

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Easier idea, how about we remove premium account, gold ammo and add subscription instead? ;-)

 



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View Post_____Yarpen_____, on 24 August 2017 - 04:01 PM, said:

Easier idea, how about we remove premium account, gold ammo and add subscription instead? ;-)

 

 

I think that adding a subscription instead of like the option to buy premium time is that it would end up costing the game probably something like 50-70% of it's population. Since well, altough the game can be both fun and frustrating there are too many things that are just wrong. Like OP (prem) tanks, gold ammo, and some maps being not very well balanced. And because of the huge population drop that it will most likely create, the time you spend in the matchmaker will be a lot longer, which in turn will make the population decrease even more. The huge advantage of this being a game that you can play for free, (with the option to buy stuff like prem time and tanks) is that there is a large population that doesn't buy stuff but that can be used to fill matches faster, so people that pay WG can play matches and will keep spending money on stuff like gold, tanks and prem time. The issue with for example over powered premium tanks, like an E25 or Defender etc. is that this can annoy the "free" players, and can cause them to leave, wich in turn will increase the time in the Matchmaker. And while the EU servers have quite a healthy population with about 100k-150k players in the afternoon-evening and can take a slight decrease in players, the NA servers can't take such hits, since they already have quite low population. If WG were to make it subscription based you would most likely get similar results here, and to an extend probably scare away most new players. Since the time in the low-mid tiers will be quite long. (tier I-II take somwhere between 15 and 30 seconds now on prime time, and I don't want to know how long they would take then)

Lycopersicon #11 Posted 24 August 2017 - 05:06 PM

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Nobody carries more than 20% prem ammo in any but a few particular tanks anyway, and those few need their premium like we need oxygen. So this idea would make no difference whatsoever for most tanks, while rendering a few tanks unplayable.

Edited by Lycopersicon, 24 August 2017 - 05:34 PM.


qpranger #12 Posted 24 August 2017 - 05:09 PM

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Gold ammo should only be available to those who buy Fort Knox every month.

Mimos_A #13 Posted 24 August 2017 - 05:16 PM

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While it's not a terrible idea in principle, the main problem is the difference in ammo capacity between tanks. Some tanks have so many rounds they can still spam prem most of the match, other tanks will suffer immensely, especially tanks with low ammo capacity and poor standard pen.

 

For me personally it wouldn't matter that much, I don't carry many premium rounds to begin with, but for example the T-54 starts to rely more and more on heatspam to remain competetive, even against more recent tier 8's like the vk10001 and Defender, I still only carry 10 heat rounds, but I have to fire all of them in about a quarter of the matches I play in it... 10 rounds is already a fifth of its ammo capacity and I frequently find myself short (rng is always fun), just limiting it without rebalancing the standard pen would just make it useless.


Edited by Mimos_A, 24 August 2017 - 05:17 PM.


DracheimFlug #14 Posted 24 August 2017 - 10:44 PM

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View Post_____Yarpen_____, on 24 August 2017 - 04:01 PM, said:

Easier idea, how about we remove premium account, gold ammo and add subscription instead? ;-)

 

 

Because that is not just pay to win, but also pay to lose?

BravelyRanAway #15 Posted 24 August 2017 - 10:49 PM

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Why would you want to increase the speed(credit saving) of bad players getting to T10? The more they spam....the longer it takes them.
 

View Post_____Yarpen_____, on 24 August 2017 - 03:01 PM, said:

Easier idea, how about we remove premium account, gold ammo and add subscription instead? ;-)

 

 

Did you know that only three people in the Western gaming industry have made it to billionaire status, one is the Minecraft creator, one other is co-founder of Steam....and the third is Victor Kislyi CEO of WG.......why should he go backwards? WG know their industry.

 

NB:- Victor holds 64% of WG but also controls his fathers 25.5% stake.........doing pretty well in the family....don't you think?


 

Edited by Jbnn, 26 August 2017 - 07:40 AM.


Balc0ra #16 Posted 24 August 2017 - 11:48 PM

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I can guarantee you that on some tiers, you won't notice a difference, and your HT's will die just as fast. And on High tiers, it will break more then it will fix I suspect. As then, the match is won by the team with the best effective armor. As if you get A Conq, 50 120, a stock T-10 and a IS-4 as top tier. And the enemy gets a 3 man Type 4 derp Platoon with a Maus as top tier. It's done and lost the second the 20% on your HT line is used up.

 

And most players with stock grinds will give up and hide faster. Because they can't damage anything after that first fight. So they leg it and leave you alone to deal with the tier X HT gunning for you.


Edited by Balc0ra, 24 August 2017 - 11:50 PM.


Koriin #17 Posted 25 August 2017 - 07:22 AM

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I would say get that maximum gold/premium loadout set at a fixed ammount of 0 rounds/match and finally get the balance worked out. That way it should be easier to balance tanks.

 

but that is easy for me to say as I am a hindrance to my team for not using gold/premium ammo, so I am used to it anyways.



AliceUnchained #18 Posted 25 August 2017 - 10:09 AM

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View Postkaypol1998, on 24 August 2017 - 03:38 PM, said:

what do you think about this matter?

 

That next time you should do a search first, as this has been suggested a kazilion times before already. Furthermore, I think you gave it very little thought, did not think it through, and actually have nu clue what the impact would be. Which would be next to nothing, as the vast majority of players will fire less than 20% premium. 

 

@Moderators: Please junk this useless, pointless, 13 a dozen thread.



shishx_the_animal #19 Posted 25 August 2017 - 11:42 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 24 August 2017 - 04:09 PM, said:

Gold ammo should only be available to those who buy Fort Knox every month.

 

I agree!

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 25 August 2017 - 12:42 PM, said:

I agree!

 

He's taken the bait.





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