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Liviguy #1 Posted 26 August 2017 - 02:53 AM

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Just bumped into an Obj907 for the first time, what an OP piece of Soviet bias it is. 5 hits, 0 penetrations. The driver waltzed through our whole team just about and lost about 300 of his 2000hp.  

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Someones late to the party

Liviguy #3 Posted 26 August 2017 - 02:58 AM

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View Postxx984, on 26 August 2017 - 02:57 AM, said:

Someones late to the party

 

As i said, its the first time ive met one.

 



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View PostLiviguy, on 26 August 2017 - 01:58 AM, said:

 

As i said, its the first time ive met one.

 

 

Touche :sceptic:

Liviguy #5 Posted 26 August 2017 - 03:03 AM

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View Postxx984, on 26 August 2017 - 03:00 AM, said:

 

Touche :sceptic:

 

look at the vehicles i drive, ive only recently made it to tier 9. Im pretty sure ive not come across one before, im sure id have remembered it.

 


Edited by Liviguy, 26 August 2017 - 03:03 AM.


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It's a reward tank that for the most part is played by above average players, thus it's not that common, sure it's over performing a bit, but I'd rather come across an Obj 907 once in a blue moon than face some of the imbalanced tier 8 premiums anyone can buy almost every match I play.

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I just did a minor spit-take in real life at "over performing a bit". Also, if you play Tier 8 it's T10's you have to worry about, not other T8's.

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View PostSuedKAT, on 26 August 2017 - 03:06 AM, said:

It's a reward tank that for the most part is played by above average players, thus it's not that common, sure it's over performing a bit, but I'd rather come across an Obj 907 once in a blue moon than face some of the imbalanced tier 8 premiums anyone can buy almost every match I play.

 

I think your missing the point. He waltzed through my whole team and took less than 300 hp damage. None of the tier 8 Premiums could do anything like that. And why have this selective memory with these super overpowered tier 8 prems that anyone can buy. Go look at the threads when the super dooper Japanese Heavies were introduced, and all the same faces came on here and supported WG on these new tanks, when  they ruined tier 5 and tier 6 and 7 to a lesser degree. All we got was "learn to flank them", "they aren't OP, you just cant play".

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View PostLiviguy, on 26 August 2017 - 03:13 AM, said:

 

I think your missing the point. He waltzed through my whole team and took less than 300 hp damage. None of the tier 8 Premiums could do anything like that. And why have this selective memory with these super overpowered tier 8 prems that anyone can buy. Go look at the threads when the super dooper Japanese Heavies were introduced, and all the same faces came on here and supported WG on these new tanks, when  they ruined tier 5 and tier 6 and 7 to a lesser degree. All we got was "learn to flank them", "they aren't OP, you just cant play".

 

The curves for the Obj 907 and for example the Defender is quite similar:

 

 

Both over perform quite a bit, the difference is that one is a somewhat rare reward tank, the other is something you just need a credit card to get.

 

Edit: The Obj 907 have been in the game far longer than the Jap HT's.


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View PostSuedKAT, on 26 August 2017 - 03:20 AM, said:

 

The curves for the Obj 907 and for example the Defender is quite similar:

 

 

Both over perform quite a bit, the difference is that one is a somewhat rare reward tank, the other is something you just need a credit card to get.

 

Edit: The Obj 907 have been in the game far longer than the Jap HT's.

 

and do you think its just coincidence that hey are both Soviet?

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View PostLiviguy, on 26 August 2017 - 03:25 AM, said:

 

and do you think its just coincidence that hey are both Soviet?

 

This is an US premium tank:

 

So nah don't think being soviet have anything to do with it, it's more down to being premium tanks and WG wanting more cash and the Obj 907 being a reward tanks which seems to be hard for WG to balance since they are either to strong or complete garbage, all to please as many as possible in the traditional WG fashion.



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View PostSuedKAT, on 26 August 2017 - 02:31 AM, said:

 

This is an US premium tank:

 

So nah don't think being soviet have anything to do with it, it's more down to being premium tanks and WG wanting more cash and the Obj 907 being a reward tanks which seems to be hard for WG to balance since they are either to strong or complete garbage, all to please as many as possible in the traditional WG fashion.

 

Maybe they did that on purpose to try and hide the fact there is russian bias, Who would expect it? its the perfect crime! Especially on a tank like that! its the last tank anyone would expect! :hiding:

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Met a guy from KAZNA yesterday. In his 907 on airfield. His awareness was exceptional. Snap shotted my 40t. The 907 must have better dispersion than whats listed.  I bounced three of my clip then retreated and waited to assassinate the low health.  

Im guessing he was a purple player as he was focused to oblivion

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The Russian Bias is certainly broken for my beloved KV-4 :( WTB some Russian Bias for it.

 

on the Obj 907, yea it's strong, but you know, the people that got one had to work for it, so I can appreciate that a bit. Compare it to the strong tanks you can just buy. Which is a bigger issue imo then a strong reward tank.


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Have you heard of the legenda ry d Ef End E r?

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View Postxx984, on 26 August 2017 - 04:09 AM, said:

 

Maybe they did that on purpose to try and hide the fact there is russian bias, Who would expect it? its the perfect crime! Especially on a tank like that! its the last tank anyone would expect! :hiding:

 

Yes, yes, they have a Russian bias but they hide it by showing similar bias towards other nations. Or is it a US bias that they hide by presenting an appearance of Russian bias? 

 

Personally I suspect that it is a British bias that they masterfully conceal.:medal:



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Yeah.  Massive British bias.  Its soo obvious

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View PostLiviguy, on 26 August 2017 - 03:13 AM, said:

 

I think your missing the point. He waltzed through my whole team and took less than 300 hp damage. None of the tier 8 Premiums could do anything like that. And why have this selective memory with these super overpowered tier 8 prems that anyone can buy. Go look at the threads when the super dooper Japanese Heavies were introduced, and all the same faces came on here and supported WG on these new tanks, when  they ruined tier 5 and tier 6 and 7 to a lesser degree. All we got was "learn to flank them", "they aren't OP, you just cant play".

 

Think you missed his point. 907 is not played by bad players like most tanks you face might be. As it's a tier X reward tank. It's more so seen driven by a player that knows what he is doing, and knows to exploit the tanks strengths. And most don't know how to counter it as not something they see daily. As most go for the Commanders hatch etc. But it's 230mm thick at the weakest. So if you hit the wrong spot, it will be 260 effective or higher even. So it's not easy for most to pen head on in a hull down state when brawling vs it.

 

But it's a rare sight, not a tank you commonly find. And sure it's the tier X medium with the 2nd highest WR on EU "57%". But it's mostly driven by players with close to or above a 60% WR. And it's population is fairly small. So it's not like the T-62A that's mostly driven by sub 50% players in randoms more so then 60%. So when you see one. It might do rather well indeed. So it's not easy to nerf it as such, as the stats and data they get back in it is based on mostly good players, unlike a tech tree tank that is driven by everyone. But it's marked as a "premium". But like the PM tanks, it can get buffed, or even nerfed. As WG sees it as a normal tank... if needed.

 



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View PostBalc0ra, on 26 August 2017 - 07:25 AM, said:

 

Think you missed his point. 907 is not played by bad players like most tanks you face might be. As it's a tier X reward tank. It's more so seen driven by a player that knows what he is doing, and knows to exploit the tanks strengths. And most don't know how to counter it as not something they see daily. As most go for the Commanders hatch etc. But it's 230mm thick at the weakest. So if you hit the wrong spot, it will be 260 effective or higher even. So it's not easy for most to pen head on in a hull down state when brawling vs it.

 

But it's a rare sight, not a tank you commonly find. And sure it's the tier X medium with the 2nd highest WR on EU "57%". But it's mostly driven by players with close to or above a 60% WR. And it's population is fairly small. So it's not like the T-62A that's mostly driven by sub 50% players in randoms more so then 60%. So when you see one. It might do rather well indeed. So it's not easy to nerf it as such, as the stats and data they get back in it is based on mostly good players, unlike a tech tree tank that is driven by everyone. But it's marked as a "premium". But like the PM tanks, it can get buffed, or even nerfed. As WG sees it as a normal tank... if needed.

 

While that is all true, almost all players wo own a 907 want it nerfed.



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View PostCeeb, on 26 August 2017 - 07:23 AM, said:

Yeah. Massive British bias. Its soo obvious

 

Exactly! It is so well concealed, it must be there! :izmena:




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