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ID_100 #1 Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:10 AM

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Bucifel #2 Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:36 AM

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solution is so easy...

REBALANCE !

 

add some disadvantages and make prices standard.



ID_100 #3 Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:52 AM

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View PostBucifel, on 27 August 2017 - 12:36 AM, said:

solution is so easy...

REBALANCE !

 

add some disadvantages and make prices standard.

 



AliceUnchained #4 Posted 27 August 2017 - 11:43 AM

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Most original premium ammo thread of the year. Wait.... whut?

 

Still, premium ammo isn't the cause, the root problem, it's a symptom. 


Edited by AliceUnchained, 27 August 2017 - 11:43 AM.


shishx_the_animal #5 Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:02 PM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 27 August 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

Most original premium ammo thread of the year. Wait.... whut?

 

Still, premium ammo isn't the cause, the root problem, it's a symptom. 

 

Imagine if they simply removed regular ammo and premium became normal? :thinking:

AliceUnchained #6 Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:04 PM

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 27 August 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

Imagine if they simply removed regular ammo and premium became normal? :thinking:

 

Even better, remove premium ammo and give standard ammo higher penetration so you can penetrate just as easily. 

laulaur #7 Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:14 PM

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 27 August 2017 - 11:02 AM, said:

 

Imagine if they simply removed regular ammo and premium became normal? :thinking:

 

View PostAliceUnchained, on 27 August 2017 - 11:04 AM, said:

 

Even better, remove premium ammo and give standard ammo higher penetration so you can penetrate just as easily. 

 



Hellfoxe #8 Posted 27 August 2017 - 12:20 PM

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Same story with premium ammo. You can't live with premium ammo then buy premium ammo and use it instead creating whine topics.

Daxeno #9 Posted 27 August 2017 - 02:07 PM

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Topic cleaned. Let's avoid sidetracked and potentially offensive conflicts, or I may have to lock it next time.

 

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Coldspell #10 Posted 27 August 2017 - 02:12 PM

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The never ending debate, I have gotten to the stage where I don't care but if there was to be a solution I think reducing alpha or increasing the lenght of the reload for premium rounds would be most effective.

ID_100 #11 Posted 27 August 2017 - 10:07 PM

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Derethim #12 Posted 27 August 2017 - 10:15 PM

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Honestly, I think E-25 would be the way it's meant to be - a premium tank with some weaknesses and they could add preferential matchmaking, so it now only meets tier VII.

Done.

Now you have endless whines of E-25 owners.


Edited by Derethim, 27 August 2017 - 10:16 PM.


ZlatanArKung #13 Posted 27 August 2017 - 10:18 PM

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 27 August 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

 

Imagine if they simply removed regular ammo and premium became normal? :thinking:

 

I am all for it.



Derethim #14 Posted 27 August 2017 - 10:20 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 27 August 2017 - 10:18 PM, said:

 

I am all for it.

 

Since they're balancing everything by premium ammo now, we get the same result if they remove either.

Why not remove all the ammo?



Laatikkomafia #15 Posted 27 August 2017 - 10:46 PM

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As long as there are tanks like Type 5, premium ammo is pretty much needed.

soul3ater #16 Posted 27 August 2017 - 10:49 PM

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make premium ammo deal less..let's say 75% of your normal AP dmg.

 

easy



AliceUnchained #17 Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:36 PM

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View Postsoul3ater, on 27 August 2017 - 10:49 PM, said:

make premium ammo deal less..let's say 75% of your normal AP dmg.

 

easy

 

Good luck dealing with that Type 5 in your Tier VIII... Much balance, much wow, much thought put into this suggestion eh? Perfect example as to why Wargaming should ignore most of the playerbase with their 'suggestions', 'fixes', etc.

Derethim #18 Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:41 PM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 28 August 2017 - 12:36 PM, said:

 

Good luck dealing with that Type 5 in your Tier VIII... Much balance, much wow, much thought put into this suggestion eh? Perfect example as to why Wargaming should ignore most of the playerbase with their 'suggestions', 'fixes', etc.

 

Agreed he should read about shell mechanics first.

But you shouldn't be able to easily pen and beat a Type 5 with your Tier VIII. They should just give it small weakspots even lower tier tanks can pen.



shishx_the_animal #19 Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:45 PM

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How WG tackles balancing:

 

Russian guy #1: "Boss, players are constantly whining about balance and premium ammo. Someone was smart enough to find out one of the reasons - corridor maps. Should we change the maps?"

Boss: "Great work collecting valuable data comrade! Let's change the maps!"

Russian guy #2: "Great work! What do you want us to change about the maps mister Boss?"

Boss: "Make all maps look even prettier! MAKE THEM HD!"

Russian guy #1: "But that would require a lot of time and not much change..."

Boss: "I WANT MAPS TO LOOK PRETTY AND I WANT TO SEE REFLECTIONS IN THE WATER!"

Russian guy #1: *silence*

Russian guy #2: *silence*

Russian guy #3: "Em... wonderful idea mister Boss."


Edited by shishx_the_animal, 28 August 2017 - 12:46 PM.


AliceUnchained #20 Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:58 PM

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View PostDerethim, on 28 August 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

Agreed he should read about shell mechanics first.

But you shouldn't be able to easily pen and beat a Type 5 with your Tier VIII. They should just give it small weakspots even lower tier tanks can pen.

 

The suggestion was to reduce damage on premium rounds... Plenty of Tier VIII will struggle to penetrate that Typer 5 even with premium ammo, and then on top of that should deal even lower damage? Even when the Tier VIII can reliable penetrate the Type 5 with premium ammo, that Tier X Type 5 still has the advantage in damage per shot, (effective) damage per minute, and HP pool. So if the Tier VIII somehow manages to 'easily' penetrate  and beat that Type 5, premium ammo REALLY isn't the issue. And for the love of some made up deity, can we please stop with the 'tank x shouldn't be able to penetrate tank y', 'tank x shouldn't be able to do this and that', and 'you should not be able to do this and that' non-arguments? 




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