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pathed91 #1 Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:16 PM

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I'm currently stuck at Lt 15-3, and I just can't seem to do it with the new mm in my T-54 ltwt. It just seems that there isn't enough hp in the enemy team to get the 7k combined damage that is required. It no longer is just rng dependant with the map anymore, now you have to hope to actually face tier 10 in order to have a shot to do the mission. my best try so far is this:

 

http://wotreplays.co...hed91-t-54_ltwt

 

Do I have to get a tier 10 light to get enough hp to spot or is there something else I can do to fix the mission? What is your experience on Lt 15-3?



Bucifel #2 Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:21 PM

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just get a T10 LT and you will get a lot of full T10 matches 

with more than enough HP...

 

is still possible on T9 of course...


Edited by Bucifel, 27 August 2017 - 08:22 PM.


pathed91 #3 Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:24 PM

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View PostBucifel, on 27 August 2017 - 08:21 PM, said:

or...just get a T10 LT and you will get a lot of full T10 matches 

with more than enough HP...

 

The problem is that I'm really low on credits right now and was hoping I could complete it at tier 9. I already bought maus only to do the last couple of missions and don't want to do it with lights unless it's necessary.

c0keb0ttle #4 Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:25 PM

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I did it not long ago in the T-54 lightweight actually.

http://circon.wot-re...d_no_hits_taken

 

But it requires either great skill (which I don't possess) or the right map with the right teams.

 



pathed91 #5 Posted 27 August 2017 - 08:37 PM

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View Postc0keb0ttle, on 27 August 2017 - 08:25 PM, said:

I did it not long ago in the T-54 lightweight actually.

http://circon.wot-re...d_no_hits_taken

 

But it requires either great skill (which I don't possess) or the right map with the right teams.

 

 

I tend to be a lot more cautious playing the mid ridge and just poke, so I will try being aggresive and ride along the ridge instead if I get Prok. Thanks for the help.

geoff99 #6 Posted 27 August 2017 - 10:18 PM

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Yes, in my experience lt15/3 is doable in the new mm. Maybe even slightly less difficult than in old mm and with old lights.

I'm better at combined spot and dmg with my t49 (90mm) than my t54ltwt. And win rate come to think of it. So if you have any other t9 lights it may be worth trying them out.

Tier 9 seems to be the sweet spot for lights currently, with tier 8 underwhelming and tier 10 expensive rubbish so I'd recommend sticking at tier 9.

Coldspell #7 Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:35 AM

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the mission can be done at tier 7.

Sargatanas2k2 #8 Posted 28 August 2017 - 12:50 AM

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I recently did it in my RU 251 twice in a week so yes I would say it's doable.

malachi6 #9 Posted 28 August 2017 - 01:00 AM

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First game in the WZ-132 A.  I got 9k combined. So it is doable but very situational.

Spurtung #10 Posted 28 August 2017 - 01:25 AM

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View Postpathed91, on 27 August 2017 - 09:16 PM, said:

7k combined damage that is required

Here's your problem, this is not what the mission requires at all.

It's spotted and assisted damage (tracked enemies). Your own damage is not counted.

In the replay you provided you have just over 2k.

Edit: I was wrong.

 

And if it's possible to have 7k assisted damage with a tier 9 in the current MM? Certainly.

http://wotreplays.com/site/3772212#fiery_salient-spurtung-amx_13_90


Edited by Spurtung, 28 August 2017 - 10:36 AM.


Balc0ra #11 Posted 28 August 2017 - 02:17 AM

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I've done 8K + assist a few times with the RU since the LT & MM changes in tier 10/9 games. It's not just "skill". You need a bigger dose of luck, just as before. Right map, right team and the passive enemy team. Like Malinovka. Sitting on E4 or K3 and just hope the enemy team is really campy. As the last time I got a Maus sitting at G1 that I got assist for early on. Or F1 on Prokhorovka hoping the enemy team camps the 1 line.  You need to focus heavily on farming assist first. As you are not gonna do 5K damage that often to get by on 2K assist on top. It's easier the other way around. And focus on damage late game, by going for tracks etc first.

 

View PostSpurtung, on 28 August 2017 - 01:25 AM, said:

Here's your problem, this is not what the mission requires at all.

It's spotted and assisted damage (tracked enemies). Your own damage is not counted.

In the replay you provided you have just over 2k.

 

I was under the indication that they did... As that's how I did LT-15 for the Obj. As it says in the text.. Total damage caused, as in damage you do. And the damage caused by your allies upon your assist.



lord_chipmonk #12 Posted 28 August 2017 - 02:22 AM

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Short answer; yes. Final replay in this compilation for example (other ones come close). 

 

 

I have been having problems surviving though. Which means I still need LT15 with honours, or SPG15. :/

 

Edit: Just to clarify, yes your own damage DOES count. The only #15 mission I can think of where your own damage doesn't count is SPG15 because reasons. 


Edited by lord_chipmonk, 28 August 2017 - 02:37 AM.


cro001 #13 Posted 28 August 2017 - 02:35 AM

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Yes it's very doable. If you have problems with assisted damage, you can always try T49, that thing will always track it's enemy for your team to shoot.

Hammerhead20 #14 Posted 28 August 2017 - 09:49 AM

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You don't need a tier X light tank to complete those hard and frustrating missions.

 

I almost did it in my tier VIII M41 Bulldog on Highway map.

 

Scored over 6,000 spotting damage. I was really close, but my tank was destroyed... yeah... those [edited]"Survive the battle" conditions...

 

The real problem is - maps. Most of the maps are just usless for spotting missions...


Edited by Hammerhead20, 28 August 2017 - 10:00 AM.


Aikl #15 Posted 28 August 2017 - 10:19 AM

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Certainly doable, but of course it depends a lot on map, teams and which way the wind blows. Anyway, the times I've had good results recently tends to be games where most of the spotting isn't done initially, and not necessarily on the so-called "open, scout-friendly maps".

 

Did LT-15 for T28HTC in Type 64... on Mountain Pass, for instance. :rolleyes:



Quintuss #16 Posted 28 August 2017 - 10:24 AM

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LT15-3 isn't what i struggle with - got enough for that a couple of time, but LT7-3 (the arty hunting)..... i guess i'll have all other missions done before i get that lucky.

Lomion_EU #17 Posted 28 August 2017 - 10:33 AM

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View Postpathed91, on 27 August 2017 - 07:16 PM, said:

I'm currently stuck at Lt 15-3, and I just can't seem to do it with the new mm in my T-54 ltwt. It just seems that there isn't enough hp in the enemy team to get the 7k combined damage that is required. It no longer is just rng dependant with the map anymore, now you have to hope to actually face tier 10 in order to have a shot to do the mission. my best try so far is this:

 

http://wotreplays.co...hed91-t-54_ltwt

 

Do I have to get a tier 10 light to get enough hp to spot or is there something else I can do to fix the mission? What is your experience on Lt 15-3?

 

It's always needed the right map and the right spawn.  But yes, it is possible, you'll need a team to support you even when you get these ideal conditions, but it is doable.

pathed91 #18 Posted 28 August 2017 - 11:17 AM

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Guess I just have to keep going and "git gud" then. It´s just so demoralizing to get corridor map after corridor map all the time, and once you get a good map it's a tier 7 match.

Still not as painfull as grinding TVP VTU, so there's that at least :P



eldrak #19 Posted 28 August 2017 - 11:22 AM

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Did LT15-4 yesterday as top tier with T49

Almost did it earlier in the day with 13-90

 

So yes, it's definitely doable.



Makotti #20 Posted 28 August 2017 - 11:35 AM

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View Postc0keb0ttle, on 27 August 2017 - 09:25 PM, said:

I did it not long ago in the T-54 lightweight actually.

http://circon.wot-re...d_no_hits_taken

 

But it requires either great skill (which I don't possess) or the right map with the right teams.

 

 

This, atleast with my skill (mainly lack of it) you need the latter requirements :P Did mine at Prokh or Fiery Salient with RU251, took couple weeks of casual gameplay but nothing impossible there.






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