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Unforgiving_Destiny #1 Posted 28 August 2017 - 03:40 AM

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I was side scraping for E100 and 113 and it was then that this OP piece of crapcame and shot me while i was side scraping for this amount of damage

and this is WG in their headquarter in belarus when they nerf a little bit of speed on type and give it a WEAKSPOT which you need to high roll on your pen to pen it with normal ammo



HunterXHunter8 #2 Posted 28 August 2017 - 03:47 AM

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type 5 gives no crap if you're super unicum or *Edited complete *Edited tomato 

 

it will do damage whether you like it or not.  it will bend you over and *Edited you like a imperial japanese soldier would to a female pow 

 

type 5 is the balancer tank we need, it pisses on everything and even on wg themselves 

 


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soul3ater #3 Posted 28 August 2017 - 04:03 AM

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I am trying to do my missions now which involves blocking damage....yeah that's not going so well atm lol. 

 

the look on my face every time I see enemy type 5 heavy..sigh

 

I have tried this tank on test server and it was hilarious..no matter how you play good or bad you will get 2k+ dmg easy.


Edited by soul3ater, 28 August 2017 - 04:04 AM.


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View Postsoul3ater, on 28 August 2017 - 03:03 AM, said:

I am trying to do my missions now which involves blocking damage....yeah that's not going so well atm lol. 

 

the look on my face every time I see enemy type 5 heavy..sigh

 

I have tried this tank on test server and it was hilarious..no matter how you play good or bad you will get 2k+ dmg easy.

 

I have played this OP crap on my friend's account and when you shoot full gold like this guy shot me and pretty much 99% of players who play it , it is so hard not to do 4k damage really it is . 

Maus doesn't piss me off that much that this tank does because maus needs to aim but this one does 500 damage to my maus which is the most armored tank in the game :deer:



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translation

"I came across a tank I can not auto pen while spamming gold,

OMG NERF THIS OP TANK SO I CAN STAT PAD MORE"

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HunterXHunter8 #6 Posted 28 August 2017 - 05:26 AM

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View PostPrincess_Ema, on 28 August 2017 - 04:10 AM, said:

 

I have played this OP crap on my friend's account and when you shoot full gold like this guy shot me and pretty much 99% of players who play it , it is so hard not to do 4k damage really it is . 

Maus doesn't piss me off that much that this tank does because maus needs to aim but this one does 500 damage to my maus which is the most armored tank in the game :deer:

 

dont kid yourself if you think maus is not op as well

that thing can angle better then type 5 and block more damage, it's just as annoying with apcr spam since maus gun is so damn accurate.



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View PostHunterXHunter8, on 28 August 2017 - 04:26 AM, said:

 

dont kid yourself if you think maus is not op as well

that thing can angle better then type 5 and block more damage, it's just as annoying with apcr spam since maus gun is so damn accurate.

 

I never said maus is not OP but at least it needs to aim , this one doesn't and hits you for 500+ if you are in super heavy and 600+ anything lighter (like my 113 this time) . both needs a nerf and maus is getting one but this one ? huh not happening now it seems until WG made enough $ 

Spurtung #8 Posted 28 August 2017 - 06:34 AM

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I don't know what you're even crying about, he wasn't even using premium rounds. Everyone else cries about those.

Yaccay #9 Posted 28 August 2017 - 06:46 AM

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Type 5 is the arty what you deserve.  (Copyright by WG)

 

Edit: and yeah, Type 5's premium ammo does not have better penetration, but higher alpha (and overall) damage...


Edited by Yaccay, 28 August 2017 - 06:48 AM.


leggasiini #10 Posted 28 August 2017 - 06:56 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 28 August 2017 - 07:34 AM, said:

I don't know what you're even crying about, he wasn't even using premium rounds. Everyone else cries about those.

 

Expect, here is a little thing.

 

Normal HE shell, if it maxrolls and hits the 40mm roof armor plate, cant do more than 643.5 damage. If it hits the 30mm roofarmor plate on behind, it cant do more than 654.5 damage. However, clearly seen in his screenshot the Type 5 rolled for 693. I just think that the mod he uses cannot detect premium HE shells of Type 5 Heavy for some reason. Kinda odd but it must be the case because it just isnt physically possible that the normal HE does 693 damage.

 

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As for OP, yes, Type 5 derp gun is retarded. Im averaging 3,5k DPG with the tank right now and I am not even that amazing player. I otherwise could struggle to average more than 3k in any tier 10 so go figure.

 

They should just rework the armor scheme into something that has UFP and LFP on lower front (and latter being ~230 effective weakspot) and the flat upper part being like +300mm thick (so it is roughly like UFP of Maus), remove derp (or at VERY least remove the gold HE) and then buff the 14cm (penetration and then either accuracy, gun handling OR DPM buff) . I dont know why they decided to go full retard mode by giving it derp gun with blatantly P2W premium ammo. Yes you can argue that any premium ammo is P2W but they almost always have some downside over normal ammo, and even if it is otherwise the same it doesnt have just better alpha, better pen instead. There are many, many situations where your normal ammo that is identical to prem ammo but has worse pen will be as effective as premium ammo. However, Type 5's gold HE is literally always superior to normal HE in any possible scenario. No expections.

 



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View Postleggasiini, on 28 August 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

I just think that the mod he uses cannot detect premium HE shells of Type 5 Heavy for some reason. Kinda odd but it must be the case because it just isnt physically possible that the normal HE does 693 damage.

I don't think he even has a mod for that to begin with, as E100's and TVP's premium HEAT rounds are clearly displayed.

 

It all boils down to where Type 5 was shooting at, and if it were me, that would be the base of the turret, where it can splash onto the engine deck and its 40 or 50mm armor.

 

View Postleggasiini, on 28 August 2017 - 07:56 AM, said:

Yes you can argue that any premium ammo is P2W but they almost always have some downside over normal ammo, and even if it is otherwise the same it doesnt have just better alpha, better pen instead. There are many, many situations where your normal ammo that is identical to prem ammo but has worse pen will be as effective as premium ammo. However, Type 5's gold HE is literally always superior to normal HE in any possible scenario. No expections.

 

Almost always? Not really, premium rounds usually have better pen for the same damage. In this case, more damage for the same pen. The only exception to this I can think of right now, it's SU-100Y, where the premium round loses pen, but gains damage.

 

 

Also, except, exceptions. Expect is something else and expections doesn't mean anything.

 

 

 

 


Edited by Spurtung, 28 August 2017 - 07:23 AM.


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View PostSpurtung, on 28 August 2017 - 08:18 AM, said:

 

Almost always? Not really, premium rounds usually have better pen for the same damage. In this case, more damage for the same pen. The only exception to this I can think of right now, it's SU-100Y, where the premium round loses pen, but gains damage.

 

 

 

I meant that majority of premium ammo has some downside among with the advantages VS normal ammo, and are not generally flat out superior at everything. For example, premium APCR loses pen quicky over distance and has lesser normalization. Small things but still better than nothing. HEAT on other hand has major disadvantage for being less effective against sloped armor (note: because while HEAT is weaker against sloped armor it also needs more tahn 85 degree angle to ricochet so it is actually more effective against very thin, very sloped plates like Swedish TDs) and spaced armor.

 

Ofc, the pen is still big thing and generally makes premium ammo overall superior ammo to the normal ammo. Type 5's prem ammo is still always more damage in every possible situation so its still worse P2W than any other premium ammo in the game expect the APCR on the French 105 mm gun found on ARL, M4 45 and S35 CA.

 

Also, he has a mod that displays what ammo is used against his tank. The UI is not the same as the one on vanilla client. That mod is much older than the in-game option that shows what ammo has been used against you.



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View PostSpurtung, on 28 August 2017 - 05:34 AM, said:

I don't know what you're even crying about, he wasn't even using premium rounds. Everyone else cries about those.

 

Mongol , i'm using XVM hit log and it doesn't show gold HE same as it doesn't show gold APCR on tanks like T25E5 that has APCR as both normal and premium shells or Strv , he WAS shooting gold HE .

Go and educate yourself in the subject you want to claim you know something like this .


Edited by Princess_Ema, 28 August 2017 - 08:20 AM.


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View PostHunterXHunter8, on 28 August 2017 - 02:47 AM, said:

type 5 gives no crap if you're super unicum or a gold spamming FAME member or complete brain dead tomato

 

Awww how cute :3

 

View PostPrincess_Ema, on 28 August 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

 

Mongol , i'm using XVM hit log and it doesn't show gold HE same as it doesn't show gold APCR on tanks like T25E5 that has APCR as both normal and premium shells or Strv , he WAS shooting gold HE .

 

That was an awesome way to presents your facts! 8/10


Edited by shishx_the_animal, 28 August 2017 - 08:20 AM.


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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 28 August 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

 

Awww how cute :3

 

 

That was an awesome way to presents your facts! 8/10

 

:girl: lub u 2

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 28 August 2017 - 07:19 AM, said:

 

Awww how cute :3

 

 

That was an awesome way to presents your facts! 8/10

 

Yeah , this guy thinks he knows something but he doesn't and he is one of those guys who can't even have 50% win-rate on anything above tier 6 and he also probably has type and he is most likely scared that they will take away this idiotic gun from the type so he feels threatened . 

EDIT : I was hoping for a 10/10 from you , i'm disappointed.


Edited by Princess_Ema, 28 August 2017 - 08:22 AM.


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View PostPrincess_Ema, on 28 August 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

View PostSpurtung, on 28 August 2017 - 05:34 AM, said:

I don't know what you're even crying about, he wasn't even using premium rounds. Everyone else cries about those.

 

Mongol , i'm using XVM hit log and it doesn't show gold HE same as it doesn't show gold APCR on tanks like T25E5 that has APCR as both normal and premium shells or Strv , he WAS shooting gold HE .

Go and educate yourself in the subject you want to claim you know something like this .

So...fix your mods maybe? I see gold rounds just fine in the vanilla client. But I'm just a simpleton from Mongolia.

 

View PostPrincess_Ema, on 28 August 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

he also probably has type and he is most likely scared that they will take away this idiotic gun from the type so he feels threatened . 

I got all tier 10s, why shouldn't I have that one?

Couldn't care less about the gun though, I could do just fine with the other one, so not threat is being felt here. I mean, you're the one getting shot and crying over it, I'm sure if there's anyone feeling threatened it's you, not me.


 

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got oneshot by this crap p2w gun in my t54 lt yesterday. HE pen for 1300 in the heaviest armored tier 9 light is fun. Really.

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