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gullungen #1 Posted 28 August 2017 - 06:12 PM

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Ok so someone please explain me how i can be getting more xp in the second screenshot, than the first one?

The first screenshot was a win by cap, second one we killed all enemies.

 

First: https://prnt.sc/ge3v5a

 

Second: https://prnt.sc/ge3uvu


Edited by Nohe21, 29 August 2017 - 07:42 AM.
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767 Xp for 5k dmg? What did you do whole game? Snipe from outside the map?

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I'm guessing that you dealt damage to more high-tier targets in the second screenshot, giving more xp. It could have been that you were shooting tanks someone else spotted, but you did your damaged at close range (less than 300m) so it seems unlikely.

gullungen #5 Posted 28 August 2017 - 06:22 PM

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View PostTidal_Force, on 28 August 2017 - 06:19 PM, said:

767 Xp for 5k dmg? What did you do whole game? Snipe from outside the map?

 

I was literally up front from the start, rushing into the city on Highway.

View Postpathed91, on 28 August 2017 - 06:19 PM, said:

I'm guessing that you dealt damage to more high-tier targets in the second screenshot, giving more xp. It could have been that you were shooting tanks someone else spotted, but you did your damaged at close range (less than 300m) so it seems unlikely.

Nope, in the first screenshot i shot a tier 10, and two tier 9's.

In the second screenshot i only shot one tier 10, one tier 9 and two tier 8's i think.


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View Postgullungen, on 28 August 2017 - 05:22 PM, said:

 

I was literally up front from the start, rushing into the city on Highway.

 

Not with 0 assist damage you were not.

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Without the replay files we can only guess, this is how XP and credits is awarded though: http://wiki.wargamin...nce_and_Credits

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View PostTidal_Force, on 28 August 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

 

Not with 0 assist damage you were not.

 

How much assist damage do you expect someone to get in the city? What can snipe into the city that would not be close enough to also be doing its own spotting? Arty may or may not have been in the battle and may or may not have been aiming where he was and likely had no shots even if it was.

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There are two big modifiers, one being the tiers you shoot at, the other one depends on who did the spotting.

 

View Postgullungen, on 28 August 2017 - 06:22 PM, said:

I was literally up front from the start, rushing into the city on Highway.

Replay.


Edited by Jigabachi, 28 August 2017 - 06:51 PM.


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View PostDracheimFlug, on 28 August 2017 - 05:50 PM, said:

 

How much assist damage do you expect someone to get in the city?

 

About 200. Two T9 shots split among 3 players.

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 28 August 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

 

How much assist damage do you expect someone to get in the city? What can snipe into the city that would not be close enough to also be doing its own spotting? Arty may or may not have been in the battle and may or may not have been aiming where he was and likely had no shots even if it was.

 

That depends on the team lineup, the amount of early scouting taking place and if arty is in play or not, you can pretty much expect that some shoots are taken by players positioned at these positions:

Depending how the match plays out I'd expect everything from 200-2000 assistance damage in the city, but having 0 means at best secondline fighting not up front.

 

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DracheimFlug #12 Posted 28 August 2017 - 07:14 PM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 28 August 2017 - 06:58 PM, said:

 

That depends on the team lineup, the amount of early scouting taking place and if arty is in play or not, you can pretty much expect that some shoots are taken by players positioned at these positions:

Depending how the match plays out I'd expect everything from 200-2000 assistance damage in the city, but having 0 means at best secondline fighting not up front.

 

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If he was South, then it is a lot less likely that there would be assist damage. There aren't as clean shots across as North South, especially if he went to the South East corner. Even North South it depends on what the rest of the team did. These are random battles. It is not a given that anyone at all from the rest of the team set up anywhere sensible.

 

Again, without replays we cannot be sure, but why are people assuming incompetence on the part of the OP but competence on the part of the rest of their team?



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View Postgullungen, on 28 August 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

Ok so someone please explain me how i can be getting more xp in the second screenshot, than the first one?

The first screenshot was a win by cap, second one we killed all enemies.

 

First: https://prnt.sc/ge3v5a

 

Second: https://prnt.sc/ge3uvu

 

Here: http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics#Experience_and_Credits. Read it and figure out the answer yourself, rather than waste a thread on this ffs.



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View PostJigabachi, on 28 August 2017 - 06:50 PM, said:

Replay.

http://wotreplays.co...amx_50_foch_155

Here's the replay on Highway



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View Postgullungen, on 28 August 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

http://wotreplays.co...amx_50_foch_155

Here's the replay on Highway

 

As I said, cities have no guarantee of assist damage. You were definitely in the vanguard, but anyone who might have assisted was either too close and thus doing their own spotting or would have had to shoot through friendly tanks, if they had any line of sight at all.

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 28 August 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

 

As I said, cities have no guarantee of assist damage. You were definitely in the vanguard, but anyone who might have assisted was either too close and thus doing their own spotting or would have had to shoot through friendly tanks, if they had any line of sight at all.

 

Yeah, but i still did no assist in the other battle too...

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View Postgullungen, on 28 August 2017 - 07:42 PM, said:

 

Yeah, but i still did no assist in the other battle too...

 

I don't think you understand that I was defending you. You were being accused of standing back and sniping, then accused of lying about having been up front with the lack of assist damage being cited as evidence.

gullungen #18 Posted 28 August 2017 - 08:49 PM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 28 August 2017 - 08:38 PM, said:

 

I don't think you understand that I was defending you. You were being accused of standing back and sniping, then accused of lying about having been up front with the lack of assist damage being cited as evidence.

 

Oh yeah xD I read what you said first wrong. 



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View Postgullungen, on 28 August 2017 - 07:31 PM, said:

http://wotreplays.co...amx_50_foch_155

Here's the replay on Highway

 

You hit 4 tanks, 3 of them was lower tier than you thus they are worth less experience, you also got a tiny bit of XP for spotting the IS-3 first, but if you did the same amount of damage to tier 10 targets only you would have got a lot more experience.

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In general there is much less xp payed out on the 1st screen. That is due to surviving enemies.

 

You will get XP from pretty much anything you do, but you also get a stake in the shared XP pool for your team. Any enemies destroyed will have their "xp value" added into the shared pool which is then split out to everyone on the team. I am not sure if the value is the base value depended on the target HP or the modified xp based on who damaged it prior to it's destruction.

 

Seeing as there are survivors on the enemy team you didn't clean up the field which cost you xp in the end


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