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Tilly042 #1 Posted 29 August 2017 - 08:41 AM

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I bought the T44 two days ago and have played 16 games so far. I know it's a good tank and I'm a rubbish player but I have yet to win a game in it and not quite sure what I'm doing wrong. Most of those games have been tier X (tier 8, what else!) but it doesn't excuse my rubbish performance.

 

So may I ask which seemingly 'good' tank have you struggled to get on with?

 

As an aside, I have the T44 100 which I'm just about ok with but I can't transfer the loader to the T44 and vice versa. Am I just being a mong? ☺



thestaggy #2 Posted 29 August 2017 - 08:47 AM

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Its actually one of the worst tier 8 tanks in the game, if not the worst. People whine about the TVP VTU and Kanonejagdpanzer but they ain't seen nothin' yet.

 

- 46.07% win rate, placing it 85th/87 tier 8 tanks.

- Average damage per game is 671.58, placing it 86th/87, only the Bulldog is worse.

- Average XP per battle (323.48) places it 86th/87.

- Average WN8 is 688.83, placing it 87th/87 tier 8 tanks.

 

Source: vBAddict (RIP)

 

You have my condolences


Edited by thestaggy, 29 August 2017 - 08:51 AM.


leggasiini #3 Posted 29 August 2017 - 08:48 AM

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View PostTilly042, on 29 August 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:

 I know it's a good tank

 

Expect its not, its trash

 

240-250 alpha tier 8 mediums in general are bad at their current state. However, T-44 has some other flaws on top of that. It has absolutely horrible penetration for a tier 8, and in general the gun has nothing going for it. The armor is marginally bouncier than average T8 med, but still quite useless especially when you dont meet that many tier 6-7 these days. And it also has low HP and is slower than many 240/250 alpha meds

 

T-44-100 is flat out better but I still loathed it, and that was when the powercreep mediums and new MM (which directly hinders tier 8s) wasnt even a thing, so go figure. At least it will get buffed tomorrow so there is that. Just wait until then


Edited by leggasiini, 29 August 2017 - 08:49 AM.


Enderman21 #4 Posted 29 August 2017 - 08:54 AM

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Don't worry, it's not your fault nor the vehicle's. It's just the garbage MM along with the garbage balance of the tanks. Time ago when I didn't grind tanks, I would play 1-2 months without having ONE single game with 0 damage. And I played roughly 400 battles a month. 

 

Now when I grinded AMX AC 48, I would have 2-3 battles a day with 0 damage while I grinded this piece of a craptank.

 

 



shishx_the_animal #5 Posted 29 August 2017 - 08:55 AM

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It's just one of those grinds that you'll have to clench your butt and carry on...

malachi6 #6 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:03 AM

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T44 gets a turret and ROF buff this week.  Don't know if it will improve things a lot.  At least it is a change for the better.

Bora_BOOM #7 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:07 AM

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Having a slight feeling about what waits ahead I have stopped the grind at t-43. Went LT line and came back to t-54.

I didn't shine of course and it was a bit awkward crews wise (unless you have few), but I don’t regret my decision.

 

BTW, T-44 is going to get some love this patch, isn’t it?

 

Edit: yeah, it does (the above post confirms)


Edited by Bora_BOOM, 29 August 2017 - 09:08 AM.


H311fi5h #8 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:12 AM

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Just wait for 9.20 and enjoy what might be one of the best T8 mediums.

Look at that turret. But there is also buffs for both the 100 mm and the 122, giving significantly better RoF, Aim Time, and Dispersion on the move and turret traverse.

 

 



hajoittaja #9 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:21 AM

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View PostTilly042, on 29 August 2017 - 09:41 AM, said:

 

So may I ask which seemingly 'good' tank have you struggled to get on with?

 

 

T-54. I just can't win with it. Currently at 91% moe, but wr is bot-like 47% :(



xtrem3x #10 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:22 AM

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I'm having the same issue in my Panther 8.8

Thought it would be an ok medium and to be fair it is. I haven't had too many battles in it yet but I swear the game has something against me when I play it. I currently have just a 30% win rate in it. When ever I play it my win rate drops for that day. I like the tank but don't want to take it out the garage now because I don't like losing


Edited by xtram3x, 29 August 2017 - 09:23 AM.


Spurtung #11 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:25 AM

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View Postleggasiini, on 29 August 2017 - 09:48 AM, said:

Expect its not, its trash

Again? The word is except.



DracheimFlug #12 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:27 AM

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Panther, stock gun, not fun at all.... 

speedphlux #13 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:45 AM

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I don't remember having issues when I grinded thru it, but then again - that was ages ago, when the tank still had 175mm penetration on it's top guns.

It's sorta OK-ish, but the fact that it doesn't excel in any category, makes it so that people dislike it. It lacks the view range of the Centurion Mk1 and the Pershing, lacks the gun handling of the Panther II, and it's mobility ain't that much better over the rest to stand out properly.

Just stick thru it, as it's definately not a keeper tank. Unlike the T-54 for example, which follows after it. So it's worth the effort you'll put into it. For me personally, the only regular Tier 8 Medium that was worth keeping, was the Pershing. Better players will say that the Object 416 is also worth it, but that requires a bit of an unicum touch, which I lack. Obviously.

Cannes76 #14 Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:27 AM

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Glad I ground this tank back when the game was new. Was my best performing tank of all at that point! With 60+% winrate at a time where my overall was less than 50% :)

Matcorr #15 Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:31 AM

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I quite enjoyed T-44, I just played it with a peakaboo style, I'd fire, reverse and they'd bounce off the front, I liked Panther 2 as well though so maybe I'm just retarded.

leggasiini #16 Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:44 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 29 August 2017 - 10:25 AM, said:

Again? The word is except.

 

Too used on having same words with multiple meanings so I keep messing them up. Doesnt help that I wrote that not much after I woke up.

 

Typical Finn problems. Just look at this:

 

Spoiler

 

Useless to keep pointing that out because I will never learn it anyways.


Edited by leggasiini, 29 August 2017 - 10:46 AM.


samuelx43a #17 Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:42 AM

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The T-44 for me was my first ever tier VIII med tank.

Sure, it was mediocre, but I actually got decent scores with it. Now it is much better, so be glad it's being buffed

 


Edited by samuelx43a, 29 August 2017 - 11:43 AM.


Tilly042 #18 Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:46 AM

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Thank you folks. I'll stick at it of course as I really want the T54.

 

It's going to be a painful ride!



Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #19 Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:54 AM

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View Postleggasiini, on 29 August 2017 - 09:44 AM, said:

 

Too used on having same words with multiple meanings so I keep messing them up. Doesnt help that I wrote that not much after I woke up.

 

Typical Finn problems. Just look at this:

 

Spoiler

 

Useless to keep pointing that out because I will never learn it anyways.

 

So Kuusi palaa is basically your whole language? interesting.... :amazed:

Unknown_Lifeform #20 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:19 PM

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As already noted, tomorrow the T-44 gets a dispersion on the move, turret armour and dpm buff. Also with any luck the new grand battle mode will have the effect of removing a lot of tier X tanks from the random queue meaning you get much better match making at tier 8.

 

As to your question, the Obj 140. It was my first tier X and no matter how good a session I was having the instant I touched it I lost non stop. 13 times in a row in one session. I began to feel that it was cursed and just playing it would put me instantly on tilt. Oh, and just being looked at funny would cause the ammo rack to fall out. Eventually I moved the crew to another tank and left it to gather dust in my garage for several years. One day I'll recrew it and try to salvage my honour in it.






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