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9.20 and how T-62 got nuked into oblivion.


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cro001 #1 Posted 29 August 2017 - 01:52 PM

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Hi all,

 

Just a heads up if you're grinding T-62. It will be totally obsolete when 9.20 hits. Object 140 turret roof got buffed so it's no longer easy overmatch for enemies. What that means for T-62 is that its niche got removed, T-62 when compared to 140 had advantage in hull down fights with much more durable turret, while overall armor of 140 was more "trolly" and overall more "uniform"(better hull, worse turret). Basically T-62 was that tank that skipped hull day when hitting the gym. Now all T-62 has to offer is arguably(but very, very arguable) slightly better gun stats and traverse speed is better. Everything else - 140 stomps on it from now on. Not that T-62 is suddenly bad, it's just not competitive anymore. But hey! At least 140 is worse than 907!

 

That's all,

cheers.

 

P.S. Murazor totally knows what he's doing, I don't see any problems with recent changes to tanks. Xaxaxaxa)))



xtram3x #2 Posted 29 August 2017 - 01:59 PM

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But it'll work in clanwars if the 140 and 907 are locked

cro001 #3 Posted 29 August 2017 - 02:00 PM

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Oh yeah I forgot tank locking is a thing. Okay, so that's only thing why you'd want to have one.

Aikl #4 Posted 29 August 2017 - 02:09 PM

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Knowing WG, the T-62A will be up for 'FOTM' buff in like two patches or so... or even get the production T-62 gun, a 115mm smoothbore, because why not? :P

Igor_BL #5 Posted 29 August 2017 - 02:10 PM

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t62a will still have much better turret armor.
Yes, 140 is better tank. But it's turret wont be as strong as t62a...

140's hatches are easy pen, and t62a hatch is nowhere near easy to pen.

 

edit: as hull armor... no real difference... everything pen 140, everything pen t62a... even guns of 183mm pen on tier8 pen 140 quite often thru ufp.

Real advantage of the 140 is gun depression and better max speed. hull armor, not so much.


Edited by Igor_BL, 29 August 2017 - 02:11 PM.


Dava_117 #6 Posted 29 August 2017 - 02:19 PM

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I would like the idea of giving to T-62 the historical 115mm gun. Unfortunately that would require a complete rebalance on med guns. 115 should have a damage between 105mm and 120mm, but at the moment the only possible number is 395... and it's not really that much better than a 105mm...

Thrael7 #7 Posted 29 August 2017 - 03:57 PM

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I agree with Aikl. WG is all about fkn up and their solution is always buffing the rest... So T62A will be changed in some way.

Mimos_A #8 Posted 29 August 2017 - 04:08 PM

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View PostIgor_BL, on 29 August 2017 - 02:10 PM, said:

t62a will still have much better turret armor.
Yes, 140 is better tank. But it's turret wont be as strong as t62a...

140's hatches are easy pen, and t62a hatch is nowhere near easy to pen.

 

edit: as hull armor... no real difference... everything pen 140, everything pen t62a... even guns of 183mm pen on tier8 pen 140 quite often thru ufp.

Real advantage of the 140 is gun depression and better max speed. hull armor, not so much.

 

The 140 hull has some chance of bouncing some tier 9's and a good chance of bouncing tier 8 meds, the T-62a hull will just get penned by pretty much everything it can meet. The 140 can really boss stuff like t-44's, Pershings etc at its leasure, while the t62a armour is useless against anything when not hull down.

Edited by Mimos_A, 29 August 2017 - 04:08 PM.


Zodiac1960s #9 Posted 29 August 2017 - 04:14 PM

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Just research my T62a and did not feel like spending 6.1 mill,on it. I own the 140 and think it's to similar.  No point for me at least.  

So I'm hoping an eventual buff gives more uniqueness aswell.



krismorgan #10 Posted 29 August 2017 - 04:46 PM

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View PostBlind_Hate, on 29 August 2017 - 03:14 PM, said:

Just research my T62a and did not feel like spending 6.1 mill,on it. I own the 140 and think it's to similar. No point for me at least.

So I'm hoping an eventual buff gives more uniqueness aswell.
 

 

same here.

bk500 #11 Posted 29 August 2017 - 04:54 PM

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my 140 always gets shot in the cupola anyway so.. it not like 140 turret is better

 

 

View Postcro001, on 29 August 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

Oh yeah I forgot tank locking is a thing. Okay, so that's only thing why you'd want to have one.

 

tank lock?
 

Zodiac1960s #12 Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:06 PM

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View Postbk500, on 29 August 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

my 140 always gets shot in the cupola anyway so.. it not like 140 turret is better

 

That's why they are buffing the turret in 9.20.  I'm not spending all that credits to get a worse version of the tank I already own. Gun depression comes to mind. 



Junglist_ #13 Posted 29 August 2017 - 07:17 PM

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View Postbk500, on 29 August 2017 - 03:54 PM, said:

my 140 always gets shot in the cupola anyway so.. it not like 140 turret is better

 

 

That doesn't concern you unless you're in a clan which participates in clan wars

lord_chipmonk #14 Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:20 PM

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Didn't WG back peddle on the 140 changes?

cro001 #15 Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:32 PM

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View Postbk500, on 29 August 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

tank lock?

If you play clan wars, your tank gets locked if you die in battle.

 

View Postlord_chipmonk, on 29 August 2017 - 10:20 PM, said:

Didn't WG back peddle on the 140 changes?

Apparently not.



FluffyRedFox #16 Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:41 PM

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inb4 "we didn't expect that the Obj 140 buffs would make the T- 62 obsolete, so now we're gonna double the T-62s frontal armour to  make them different!"

Mimos_A #17 Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:48 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 29 August 2017 - 10:20 PM, said:

Didn't WG back peddle on the 140 changes?

 

It's in the patch notes:

 

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  • Object 140
    • Improved armor of the turret roof.

 

It's not at the list of changes on another post about the patch, but since it's in the notes, I guess it's going to be in...



Strizi #18 Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:32 PM

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Op 62 gets trashed by even more op 140 which gets trashed by lolop 907 :teethhappy::amazed: The only balanced sovjet t10 med is the 430 anyway

somegras #19 Posted 29 August 2017 - 11:42 PM

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The 62a still has way better gun handling IMO. The 140 feels like trash sometimes. Oh, and frontal fires on the 140. :deer:

STLR #20 Posted 30 August 2017 - 09:32 AM

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i don't fully agree, obj roof will still be pennable with proper penetration wo gold. as for t-62-a\s turret.. not really :) not even with gold. 




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