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French TDs in 9.20: Tier X Reshuffle


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Community #1 Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:31 PM

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Take a closer look at the changes to top-tier French TDs.

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KEMP_BUSH_LOAD_GOLD #2 Posted 29 August 2017 - 05:37 PM

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Nice, a free Tier X is always welcome! Thank you :)

RiflemanThick #3 Posted 29 August 2017 - 06:43 PM

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What about keeping both tanks on tech tree so we choose which one we want since many players likes TDs because of the high pen and Damage 

KLguns #4 Posted 29 August 2017 - 07:56 PM

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So is the new T9 playable now, I could not care less about the "free" T10 that isnt anyway a prem tank, just a "special" one. But if the new T9 is better than the useless autopen box the old was, maybe I could retry it.

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WoT_RU_Doing #5 Posted 29 August 2017 - 09:29 PM

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View PostKLguns, on 29 August 2017 - 06:56 PM, said:

... I could not care less about the "free" T10 that isnt anyway a prem tank, just a "special" one....

 
Think you misread the announcement KL...the Free tank is the NEW Tier X standard TD....it's the old (but now buffed)Foch 155 that is due to become special. All due tomorrow morning.

 


Edited by Berkut1, 29 August 2017 - 09:32 PM.


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What about tier IX Foch which is the worst TD on this tier?

WoT_RU_Doing #7 Posted 29 August 2017 - 10:14 PM

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View PostJPKERR, on 29 August 2017 - 09:05 PM, said:

What about tier IX Foch which is the worst TD on this tier?

 

As per the many announcements it gets buffed tomorrow morning.

 

 

 

Edit (I assume as the announcement at the top of the page is entitled tier 10, but this announcement gives far more extensive changes on the French line...https://worldoftanks...cle-rebalances/)


Edited by Berkut1, 29 August 2017 - 10:21 PM.


KLguns #8 Posted 30 August 2017 - 06:40 AM

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View PostBerkut1, on 29 August 2017 - 10:29 PM, said:

Think you misread the announcement KL...the Free tank is the NEW Tier X standard TD....it's the old (but now buffed)Foch 155 that is due to become special. All due tomorrow morning.

 

I know what it meant, you will get the old one as a "special". What I meant was that the I have seen tons of people speed grinding the USELESS Piece of S**t current T9 just to get a "free" "special" T10, which I could not care less about. I pointed out that if the new T9 is better then I might retry it just for the Ace and unlock the T10 which I will never buy, unlocking T10s are the endgame for me as I havent played T10 since I had some 15k battles, nor am I interested in playing them ever either, I rather move on to the next game = no more money to WG :P

Flowtec_ #9 Posted 30 August 2017 - 06:47 AM

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I cannot help myself. I did like the french TD line as it was. Tier 8 and 9 were good, fast firing with solid gun. And tier X? I had so many hilarious moments and game winning oportunities. I didnt play F155 when it was glorious back then and I prayed not to meet that beast in battle. Those buffs, changes and free special T 10 vehicle are much welcome by me :-)

qrwot #10 Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:18 AM

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6 millions credits for two Tier 10 tanks is a good deal*, especially if the new tier 10 is as good as it's looked in test.

 

* Just in case there's somebody that doesn't know, that's only if you already have the existing tier 10 tank.  In a few minutes you won't be able to obtain the Foch 155 through the tech tree.  I imagine it will appear from time to time as a reward vehicle for completing a set of special missions.



ionicafardefric #11 Posted 30 August 2017 - 08:20 AM

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"This “Frenchman” requires patience, not hasty moves and relying on luck. Spend a few seconds to take full aim at a weak spot"

Is this a joke? We all know everyone will just fire gold and pen you everywhere.

"Stay away from close combat"

With the gold I just mentioned, every Bob will yolo at you and unload from 5 meters. 2400 dmg, you can die happy, 0 skill required.


 

And that's how you ruin any learning curve required or any skill needed to play tier 10. My little brother could play this tank (he's 5) - dab the 2 key,press w until you get really close to some fat target on the heavy side (yes there are "lanes", because every map is poorly designed so you can only go 3 ways at most), right click to autoaim, deal more damage than half the team in those 10 seconds, die. Meanwhile, in the other corner of the map, some med or light player requires careful positioning, angling, map awareness and good crew just to match your damage done, or impact on the game. It's the same problem E25 has, and we all know how balanced that tank is...

It's pretty obvious you are trying to get people to fire more gold by adding low pen to every tank you release. The community is complaining about pay to win mechanics and you simply don't care. "Pay us for the premium time, suckers".

Give it better pen (around 270 on standard ammo), What it currently have can't pen Type 5 or Maus, it doesn't have the mobility to flank like a med. Increase the time between shells to add some fairness to it. Nerf the gold pen and make the periscopes a smaller weakspot if you truly want to me it fair.  Why am I even bothering, nobody at WG is reading the forums anyways.

I DO have the Foch155, so I will get this tank, but this doesn't mean I should turn a blind eye to this utter [edited], nor should the rest of you. This game is scamming you into paying, and I, for one, had enough!


Edited by ionicafardefric, 30 August 2017 - 08:41 AM.


kristupasmatiekus #12 Posted 30 August 2017 - 08:47 AM

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WT auf E100 removed, now create similar tank

SlyMeerkat #13 Posted 30 August 2017 - 10:08 AM

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Nice

Hokum15 #14 Posted 30 August 2017 - 12:12 PM

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I got the Foch 155 and Foch B, The Camo moved to the Foch B fine and the Crew, but I gained 95000 credits too, anyone know why? 

RiflemanThick #15 Posted 30 August 2017 - 01:32 PM

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Remove APCR from Foch line it is TOO OP!

vV_TIO_Vv #16 Posted 30 August 2017 - 01:43 PM

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Ammunition costs/changes from foch old guns or something may result in credit refund?

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Lol. try to sell Foch 155, price is hilariuse :)

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It's a bit unfair the way the new AMX Foch 50 B was introduced into the game.

Looking at the developer diaries you (Wargaming Crew, Staff, Developers, etc.) mentioned that players had to undergo an excruciating grind to get the AMX Foch (155) so, you are giving it to all the players that have it in their garage as a tier X premium french TD with improved armor and all that.

Well, that is very, extremely and most unfair way to deal with tank replacements.

 

What about the WT E100? Have any of the above mentioned Wargaming guys know how many times players were effectively hunted down by artillery because of being able to get 1-shot almost everytime?

Well, I had the honor (and horror) to get to the WT E100, but by the time I got it, it was pretty nerfed already. After it was replaced by the Grille 15, guess what we got in exchange? Nothing. Nada. True story.

 

So, if this is the case, why do others get their replaced tier X tanks as a premium tier X tanks? Wargaming seem to be very discriminating and very selective when in need with some players. Maybe it's the case with their entire crew... most played french first and all needed some Tier X premium autoloading megabuffed tank love.

Still awaiting to receive my premium WT E100 Tier X tank destroyer.


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RedlineSnieperTom #19 Posted 31 August 2017 - 03:56 PM

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View PostRupOase_, on 31 August 2017 - 09:29 AM, said:

It's a bit unfair the way the new AMX Foch 50 B was introduced into the game.

Looking at the developer diaries you (Wargaming Crew, Staff, Developers, etc.) mentioned that players had to undergo an excruciating grind to get the AMX Foch (155) so, you are giving it to all the players that have it in their garage as a tier X premium french TD with improved armor and all that.

Well, that is very, extremely and most unfair way to deal with tank replacements.

 

What about the WT E100? Have any of the above mentioned Wargaming guys know how many times players were effectively hunted down by artillery because of being able to get 1-shot almost everytime?

Well, I had the honor (and horror) to get to the WT E100, but by the time I got it, it was pretty nerfed already. After it was replaced by the Grille 15, guess what we got in exchange? Nothing. Nada. True story.

 

So, if this is the case, why do others get their replaced tier X tanks as a premium tier X tanks? Wargaming seem to be very discriminating and very selective when in need with some players. Maybe it's the case with their entire crew... most played french first and all needed some Tier X premium autoloading megabuffed tank love.

Still awaiting to receive my premium WT E100 Tier X tank destroyer.

 

Amen.

When i read the upcoming changes on the foch B, i though it was good, but not as good as the WT AUF E100.

But now a day later, my opinion is changed dramatically. Foch B is almost as good as the WT AUF.

They should remove 1 shell at least and nerf the accuracy just a bit more.



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It is sad that someone thinks it is good for game that tier10 tank can complete kill two full hp tier8 tanks in 10 sec,than reload 31 second,and do it again.Not to mention that u can move almost like a med tank,and have armour u can use excellent.How this tank is good for gameplay???If u are good player,this tank is so much better than old WT E100,u can do so much more in games,u can chase meds,lights at the end of batlles.I really cant belive so broken tank exist in 2017,and no one complain about it,am so sad about it,so sad...Every patch 1 tank in tier 10 must be so OP, so i guess this is official WG politic,but this Foch B is beyond common sence...This tank shoul be nerfed in almost every aspect- clip reload time(31 seconds??? seriuosly WG?),aim time,number of shells,reload between shells in clip,speed etc.Gj WG for introduce this "balanced" tank.

Edited by Usnaph, 31 August 2017 - 06:51 PM.





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