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RockyRoller #1 Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:21 PM

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Its a [edited]joke having an autoloader vs a Lowe, full hp to utter scrap metal in seconds is TOO OVERPOWERED against a T8.

 

BAN IT NOW WG, make it tier 10 only!!!!



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Cobra6 #3 Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:34 PM

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Wait?......Did you drive in front of a fully loaded autoloader that can easily be avoided and then complain he clipped your dumb @ss?

 

If you get clipped by any autoloader it's your own fault unfortunately, it's just bad play on your part.

Same goes for driving in front of an FV183 or getting caught out by a T49, all mistakes on your part.

 

Take that from someone who was last clipped 4-6 months ago.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 30 August 2017 - 03:36 PM.


hajoittaja #4 Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:40 PM

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Just leave it alone and go fight other tier 8s

G01ngToxicCommand0 #5 Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:41 PM

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Why no problem with Foch 155?

soul3ater #6 Posted 30 August 2017 - 03:41 PM

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I could clip a lowe with my foch 155 too...I just can do it way faster now.

 

 



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View Postsoul3ater, on 30 August 2017 - 03:41 PM, said:

I could clip a lowe with my foch 155 too...I just can do it way faster now.

 

 

 

OR BC25T

_EXODUZ_ #8 Posted 30 August 2017 - 04:50 PM

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View PostRockyRoller, on 30 August 2017 - 03:21 PM, said:

Its a [edited]joke having an autoloader vs a Lowe, full hp to utter scrap metal in seconds is TOO OVERPOWERED against a T8.

 

BAN IT NOW WG, make it tier 10 only!!!!

 

I'd like to use this opportunity to ask you. How can you be so bad at the game after 19k battles?

Balc0ra #9 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:04 PM

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Well the Foch 155 only had 155 less burst damage vs this. But 3 rounds, and took more or less the same time to kill a Lowe, as he had more time between shots due to higher alpha. So the old tier X TD could even do that vs you. You just faced less of them before to notice.

tajj7 #10 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:04 PM

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T57, Kranvagn, Bat Chat and 50b all clip tier 8s with ease and all have about the same pen as the Foch b, it's clip potential against tier 8s is not an issue. Also Lowe these days can easily bounce tier 10 guns.

Shivvering #11 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:08 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 30 August 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

Wait?......Did you drive in front of a fully loaded autoloader that can easily be avoided and then complain he clipped your dumb @ss?

 

If you get clipped by any autoloader it's your own fault unfortunately, it's just bad play on your part.

Same goes for driving in front of an FV183 or getting caught out by a T49, all mistakes on your part.

 

Take that from someone who was last clipped 4-6 months ago.

 

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Yes. Because autoloaders can't move. And this one is especially slow.

 



commer #12 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:10 PM

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View PostShivvering, on 30 August 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

 

Yes. Because autoloaders can't move. And this one is especially slow.

 

 

So he chased a t8 tank down over other tanks?

CoDiGGo #13 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:10 PM

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OP or overbufff -> money $$$$$$ -> nerf

Shivvering #14 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:15 PM

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View Postcommer, on 30 August 2017 - 05:10 PM, said:

 

So he chased a t8 tank down over other tanks?

 

No idea, wasn't there.

 

But the assumption that you have to drive in front of a Foch 50b to get clipped seems a little silly. It can move. 

 

Take a look at Circons review if you have any doubts.



HunterXHunter8 #15 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:49 PM

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problem is not foch

 

problem is most tier 8 heavy players have serious learning disability, they will often try to fight tier 10 all alone.

 

in my e3 there is always a is3/defender/chrysler/lowe player that tries to fight me even when i take half of their health in one shot.



thestaggy #16 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:57 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 30 August 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

 

 

If you get clipped by any autoloader it's your own fault unfortunately, it's just bad play on your part.

 

 

 

Except not always.

 

An autotarder is more than capable of tracking you and keeping you tracked regardless of you doing something right or wrong. And something like this can clip all but three tanks; Maus, Type 5 and E100. The tanks with 2500 HP (IS-4, FV 215b) are all within a few shells being blessed by RNG. Tier 8s and 9s don't stand a chance if they get caught by one.

 

And let us not forget that this isn't a slow tank and nor is it short of armour in a frontal engagement, so it isn't as if it needs you to make a mistake in order to make plays. DezGamez, Circon and QB were all able to play this thing aggressively and sh*t all over tier X heavies.


Edited by thestaggy, 30 August 2017 - 06:01 PM.


nc30_guy #17 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:59 PM

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The problem is not one vehicle in particular its the entire auto loader aspect that's a problem the burst damage is too great and the play style makes the users very selfish in this vehicle type.

tajj7 #18 Posted 30 August 2017 - 06:10 PM

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Pretty much all autoloaders thrive on mistakes and poor play, they struggle to make plays on their own and without things to support. Especially early to mid game if you get clipped it's because you made a mistake.

commer #19 Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:18 PM

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Maybe I've had some shitty games but it doesn't feel so broken at all. The platform is still crap. T8 tanks still pen you and without firing pure prem ammo you bounce a lot given the gun isn't super accurate. Post patch I still do more dmg in my fv 183

japtank #20 Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:48 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 30 August 2017 - 03:34 PM, said:

If you get clipped by any autoloader it's your own fault unfortunately, it's just bad play on your part.

 

Sure, let's promote passive play a bit more, like in this 9 TDs game (with no Foch mind you) I just had.

Don't move! Let the others take the risks, just reap the rewards, what good is your team if it isn't a meat shield after all?

 

I'm fine with paying attention at the map, not overextending, being carefull about dangerous unspotted tanks, but for all intents and purposes this is a game and needs to be fun.

EU play is wimpier by the day, should I have known I would have created my account on the RU cluster, they can be silly at times but they don't lack balls.

 






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