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Noo_Noo #1 Posted 30 August 2017 - 04:35 PM

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I'm still doing my slow grind through the T54 and of course 9:20 arrived. 

First impressions are not good with the gun changes. One works but takes too long to reload, garbage DPM. The other couldn't hit a barn door at 10 paces and is hopeless at snap shotting. 


Still early but first impressions are that it has now 2 very poor guns.

Thoughts anyone?



Mimos_A #2 Posted 30 August 2017 - 04:41 PM

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I've got the t62a, still grinding xp for the 140. Not looking forward to trying it... I had the heatspam gun, which I only thought was any good because it still had accuracy to not have to go too overboard on the heatspam. Now it's either that gun and full heat because with that accuracy you basically can't afford not to, or lose dpm to get a gun that can actually hit and pen stuff without spamming premium. I'd be okay with option 2 if it didn't shaft me out of credits I spent buying the gun that used to be good...

Entr0py #3 Posted 30 August 2017 - 04:44 PM

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More OP than it was before, nothing much to say. Much faster, much better armoured than the T-55A with approximately equal guns, maybe marginally worse. Overall much better than the tier 3 personal missions reward tank which makes me think why the [edited]did I bother doing them all?

cro001 #4 Posted 30 August 2017 - 04:47 PM

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Same gun as before. Now you just overload with HEAT instead of having a lot of it.

Enforcer1975 #5 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:04 PM

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I have the feeling whatever they did didn't change anything. I was using the "snipergun" a few days before the patch but compared to now... :unsure:



Laiskamato #6 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:08 PM

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 30 August 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

I'm still doing my slow grind through the T54 and of course 9:20 arrived. 

First impressions are not good with the gun changes. One works but takes too long to reload, garbage DPM. The other couldn't hit a barn door at 10 paces and is hopeless at snap shotting. 


Still early but first impressions are that it has now 2 very poor guns.

Thoughts anyone?

 

I'm with you on this one.

Gun that used to be good is now bad.

Gun that used to be bad is now only option with increased reload time.



Mimos_A #7 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:16 PM

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View PostLaiskamato, on 30 August 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

 

I'm with you on this one.

Gun that used to be good is now bad.

Gun that used to be bad is now only option with increased reload time.

 

Which would be okay with me if they gave you the option of changing gun without throwing credits at it...

Noo_Noo #8 Posted 30 August 2017 - 05:20 PM

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View PostEntr0py, on 30 August 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

More OP than it was before, nothing much to say. Much faster, much better armoured than the T-55A with approximately equal guns, maybe marginally worse. Overall much better than the tier 3 personal missions reward tank which makes me think why the [edited]did I bother doing them all?

 

This is certainly one tank I do not consider being OP. The only reason I've stuck with it is because of what comes next. i would have ditched it ages ago otherwise. I have struggled in it. HEAT spam helps for sure but it has never had the armour performance that was claimed in my hands. 

It now just feels more painful than before.

samuelx43a #9 Posted 30 August 2017 - 06:31 PM

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Tried one battle with it. I consider myself to be average, but I did decent in it(2.5k) 

I have noticed the acc is a little bit worse and the aim time is much worse, my snapshots seem to go more pf centre than not. However, with rammer and BiA I've got a 5.24 reload,so I've got 3k dpm.

More like 3054 smth, but rather high, now combine that with vents food and bonds, I can see the reloadgoing close to the 5 second mark or even lower.

 

Want to try out the sniper gun now :D



Radu_Korne #10 Posted 30 August 2017 - 07:54 PM

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I played with the 200-ish gun. Slow to aim, shots went everywhere half of the time. Good enough at close combat, good dpm. Not usable in my opinion.

Then tested the 219 pen gun. Yes, it has lower aim time and better accuracy, but DPM is low, almost not worth it... I'd rather have 400 alpha of E50 anyday with 1-2 extra seconds. And I think there's something bad about soft stats with this gun, you cannot snapshot because bloom is rather nasty when you move.

 

Armor is far better, bounced a lot. But I was bouncing before anyway... I don't like T-54 now, honestly the low dpm kills it. 



Noo_Noo #11 Posted 30 August 2017 - 08:43 PM

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View PostRadu_Korne, on 30 August 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

I played with the 200-ish gun. Slow to aim, shots went everywhere half of the time. Good enough at close combat, good dpm. Not usable in my opinion.

Then tested the 219 pen gun. Yes, it has lower aim time and better accuracy, but DPM is low, almost not worth it... I'd rather have 400 alpha of E50 anyday with 1-2 extra seconds. And I think there's something bad about soft stats with this gun, you cannot snapshot because bloom is rather nasty when you move.

 

Armor is far better, bounced a lot. But I was bouncing before anyway... I don't like T-54 now, honestly the low dpm kills it. 

 

That's pretty much it. you can play in the thick of it with the high DPM gun and get smashed by everything round you but maybe do some damage with HEAT spam. Or you can try and play a little more reserved but get frustrated at the reload. 

MofaKlaus_ #12 Posted 30 August 2017 - 08:48 PM

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Its simple, take the gun with the better dpm, load only heat and go fck the heavies.. so ez

brumbarr #13 Posted 30 August 2017 - 08:49 PM

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Both guns are bad  tbh. 

One can hit crap, one has too low dpm, pretty big nerf. A gun that is the average of both would be perfect.

 

Makes me wonder how hard they are going to [edited]uo the 140 and T62A.



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View PostRadu_Korne, on 30 August 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

I played with the 200-ish gun. Slow to aim, shots went everywhere half of the time. Good enough at close combat, good dpm. Not usable in my opinion.

Then tested the 219 pen gun. Yes, it has lower aim time and better accuracy, but DPM is low, almost not worth it... I'd rather have 400 alpha of E50 anyday with 1-2 extra seconds. And I think there's something bad about soft stats with this gun, you cannot snapshot because bloom is rather nasty when you move.

 

Armor is far better, bounced a lot. But I was bouncing before anyway... I don't like T-54 now, honestly the low dpm kills it.

 

Have been playing a few games with the sniper gun. The only thing that it doesn't have is the dpm but it doesn't matter because it has better accuracy and aimtime over the pre nerf brawler gun. The accuracy is what made me pick the brawler gun over the sniper gun at first now it's the opposite.

Radu_Korne #15 Posted 30 August 2017 - 10:46 PM

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Turret traverse dispersion for the 219 pen gun is horrible... I have 7.2 sec reload for 320 alpha, while my E50 has 8.1 seconds for 390 alpha (with better gun handling too!). T-54 has been nerfed, boys, say what you want. The turret buff was unnecessary and does not compensate whatsoever. Can't wait to get my T-55A, this 219 pen gun is a potato atm.

Balc0ra #16 Posted 30 August 2017 - 11:39 PM

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Only tested the brawling gun. And maps like highway, where most of your early shots are on 250m. It's bad. T-55A's hybrid gun still feels better. Not tested the sniper gun yet.

Mimos_A #17 Posted 31 August 2017 - 12:34 AM

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Both guns are very meh IMHO. What used to be the good gun is now only tolerable at close range with full heat, the other gun has a terrible reload and still needs a fair share of heat, also that gun feels a lot less accurate than it's supposed to be. But you can now bounce 2k damage per game... wooptydoo...


Edited by Mimos_A, 31 August 2017 - 12:53 AM.


Zodiac1960s #18 Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:22 AM

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My freaking god, how good do people want this thing!? And you cry Russian bias when facing it yourselves..

Ok, buff it even more and bring Chinese medium tanks to the same level with buffs. 

Edited by Blind_Hate, 31 August 2017 - 07:24 AM.


hajoittaja #19 Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:37 AM

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Did they buff the hull armor too or just the turret? 



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View Postbrumbarr, on 30 August 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

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Makes me wonder how hard they are going to [edited]uo the 140 and T62A.

 

T-62A might be replaced by the production T-62 with 115mm gun; ignoring previous statements that smoothbores won't come to WoT and backing it up with "AMX 30 has a newer gun, so it's fine". Oh, and give it some modern stabilizer system as well, because it's obviously balanced regardless of gun with -5 gun depression.




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