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tumppi776 #21 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:02 AM

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I only have 30 B and I dont even want to try 1 game in it...

 

IMO it was missing and bouncing way way way too much before - LOL - and they make it even harder to hit and pen... LOLOLOLOLOL



tajj7 #22 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:08 AM

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30 Proto had way too much bloom, that change alone is worth giving up for some pen and accuracy.

Also the Leo pta and the 30 proto have the same gun depression, they were basically the same tank now they aren't hence the change.

Highlights how difficult WGs job is really, they buff a tank to probably the best tier 9 med and people still moan, they rebalance the T-54 so it's not good at everything and people still moan.

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248 pen is still more than the 220 the E-50 had when I played it.

 

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Hammerhead20 #24 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:23 AM

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I always wanted to have AMX 30 in my garage, but going through those light tanks is just...

 

Yeah, I understand that having 260 mm instead of 248 mm of penetration is always welcome.

 

But what about tier IX and X Škoda's? Both have 248 mm of penetration as well, but nobody is crying about that?

 

We can add E-50 as well. it's gun has even less penetration...

 

So, maybe you should play more with your "new" AMX 30, don't you think?

 

I don't have it, but still it's a great tank in my opinion...


Edited by Hammerhead20, 31 August 2017 - 09:24 AM.


How_hard_can_it_be #25 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:25 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 31 August 2017 - 09:08 AM, said:

30 Proto had way too much bloom, that change alone is worth giving up for some pen and accuracy.

Also the Leo pta and the 30 proto have the same gun depression, they were basically the same tank now they aren't hence the change.

Highlights how difficult WGs job is really, they buff a tank to probably the best tier 9 med and people still moan, they rebalance the T-54 so it's not good at everything and people still moan.

 

That change was definitely not worth for me. I've played 1500ish battles in this thing and I loved the reliability that came with pen, accuracy and shell velocity, now it's a potato launcher. I DO feel the difference and it's a big disappointment.
Don't worry, I've already rebought Centurion 7/1. Everything's fine now. At least it  has still the things I got robbed of.

How_hard_can_it_be #26 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:27 AM

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View PostHammerhead20, on 31 August 2017 - 09:23 AM, said:

I always wanted to have AMX 30 in my garage, but going through those light tanks is just...

 

Yeah, I understand that having 260 mm instead of 248 mm of penetration is always welcome.

 

But what about tier IX and X Škoda's? Both have 248 mm of penetration as well, but nobody is crying about that?

 

We can add E-50 as well. it's gun has even less penetration...

 

So, maybe you should play more with your "new" AMX 30, don't you think?

 

I don't have it, but still it's a great tank in my opinion...

 

It's not just about penetration. The whole thing feels miserable when you add less pen+less accuracy+worse shell velocity.

Hammerhead20 #27 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:33 AM

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View PostHow_hard_can_it_be, on 31 August 2017 - 11:27 AM, said:

 

It's not just about penetration. The whole thing feels miserable when you add less pen+less accuracy+worse shell velocity.

 

Well, still I think that AMX 30 is way better than my sluggish Type 61...


Edited by Hammerhead20, 31 August 2017 - 09:40 AM.


brumbarr #28 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:34 AM

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View PostHow_hard_can_it_be, on 31 August 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

 

It's not just about penetration. The whole thing feels miserable when you add less pen+less accuracy+worse shell velocity.

Get the leo pta then, it is basicly the old amx30, hence why they changed it.



brumbarr #29 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:35 AM

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View PostDrownape, on 31 August 2017 - 08:45 AM, said:

 

what :facepalm: you mean I have to buy it back now 

Its much better, bit also very different. Think stb1 with good gun handling.



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View Postbrumbarr, on 31 August 2017 - 09:34 AM, said:

Get the leo pta then, it is basicly the old amx30, hence why they changed it.

 

Yeah, but somehow I feel put off by the legends about it's infamous ammorack. I've had it unlocked for ages and had no need for another AMX30prot-like tank. But hey, Cent 7/1 has come to the rescue and it's glorious. Just 3 marked it a couple of minutes ago.

Igor_BL #31 Posted 31 August 2017 - 10:06 AM

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i consider amx best tier9 medium now... ok, skoda is fantastic, but singleshooter... Amx over t54... never played e50...

bought 12t to grind this beauty.

eldrak #32 Posted 31 August 2017 - 10:27 AM

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Since they change repair kit I haven't had any problems with constant ammo racks in any tank.

Just remember that the Leo PTA needs to be elited to not be crap.



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I honestly find the AMX 30 and AMX 30B changes welcome, I prefer them not being Leo 1 clones

tumppi776 #34 Posted 31 August 2017 - 11:07 AM

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View PostHammerhead20, on 31 August 2017 - 08:23 AM, said:

 

But what about tier IX and X Škoda's? Both have 248 mm of penetration as well, but nobody is crying about that?

 

As that is the only thing lacking the package is awesome. With autoloader to boot.

 

AMX's dont have anything to offer anymore. Only frustrating moments missing and bouncing.

 

 



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"AMX's dont have anything to offer anymore. Only frustrating moments missing and bouncing."

Get real.

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I prefer it post buff. Yeah the shell speed + acc + pen was nice but it was super situational. Now it's snapshot city.

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View PostIgor_BL, on 31 August 2017 - 11:10 AM, said:

"AMX's dont have anything to offer anymore. Only frustrating moments missing and bouncing."

Get real.

 

It was real yesterday for me. The gun was unrecognizable. It was all over my aiming circle.

brumbarr #38 Posted 31 August 2017 - 11:28 AM

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View Posttumppi776, on 31 August 2017 - 11:07 AM, said:

 

As that is the only thing lacking the package is awesome. With autoloader to boot.

 

AMX's dont have anything to offer anymore. Only frustrating moments missing and bouncing.

 

 

They have nothign to offer, except:

-best in class speed

-best in class dpm

-best in class gun handling

 

Nothing to offer at all!!



Yakito #39 Posted 31 August 2017 - 11:58 AM

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I was scared of the accuracy and penetration nerf, but I had one of the best games in my Prototype yesterday. 

I guess it was just luck, but I haven't noticed much of an accuracy difference. I remember missing fully aimed shots in this tank prior to the patch. Just 2 days ago I had a game where I shot 16 times and hit only 8, and I was standing still, aiming at an easy target. 

 

This tank is still just as, if not more, fun. 



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View Postbrumbarr, on 31 August 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

They have nothign to offer, except:

-best in class speed

-best in class dpm

-best in class gun handling

 

Nothing to offer at all!!

 

Before 9.20 it was my fav t9 med.

 

I only had problem in some situation with the lower shell speed and penetration. But I think I can get used to it.

Still a decent med.






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