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brumbarr #41 Posted 31 August 2017 - 12:40 PM

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View Postalienslive, on 31 August 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

 

Before 9.20 it was my fav t9 med.

 

I only had problem in some situation with the lower shell speed and penetration. But I think I can get used to it.

Still a decent med.

Its by far the best t9 med, no other has that combo of dpm, gumhaning and penetration.



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View Postbrumbarr, on 31 August 2017 - 12:40 PM, said:

Its by far the best t9 med, no other has that combo of dpm, gumhaning and penetration.

 

E50 is a better pub tank imho thanks to how good it is at bullying. 

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View PostHow_hard_can_it_be, on 31 August 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

 

That change was definitely not worth for me. I've played 1500ish battles in this thing and I loved the reliability that came with pen, accuracy and shell velocity, now it's a potato launcher. I DO feel the difference and it's a big disappointment.
Don't worry, I've already rebought Centurion 7/1. Everything's fine now. At least it  has still the things I got robbed of.

 

Actually with the current changes to the AMX it lets one even more realise how far the Centurion 7/1 is a away from the rest and the a change to its turret armour alone will not help it.

 

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https://tanks.gg/compare/amx-30?t=centurion-71%7Eleopard-pt-a&e=-1.-1.-1



How_hard_can_it_be #44 Posted 31 August 2017 - 02:30 PM

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Funny, because so far, after rebuying Cent 7/1 yesterday, it's been epic. The gun is reliable, accurate,a lot of gun depression. I've played 5 or 6 battles since yesterday and it was just what I needed. 0.29 accuracy FTW. 268 pen FTW. ~1400 m/s shell velocity FTW, HESH FTW.

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Conclusive proof that one mans good is another's bad and that 80% of the threads on these forums are ultimately pointless.

 

PS.  I like cheese.  Not soft cheese though.  That's ikky.



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watchu sayin' about soft cheese, bruv? gonna get shanked for that !

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View PostHow_hard_can_it_be, on 31 August 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

Funny, because so far, after rebuying Cent 7/1 yesterday, it's been epic. The gun is reliable, accurate,a lot of gun depression. I've played 5 or 6 battles since yesterday and it was just what I needed. 0.29 accuracy FTW. 268 pen FTW. ~1400 m/s shell velocity FTW, HESH FTW.

 

I'm happy for you, if everything works according to plan the Cent 7/1 is great to play.  After 5-6 games I would still recommend you to give it some more time. I thought long time the same..

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what's up with these dmg farmers at tier 9, wow, get gut and play tier 10 tanks statswh0res :trollface:

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The Cent 7/1 should be fine once it gets it's turret back but it's miles behind the Amx at the moment.

Just wish they would fix the awful turret bloom in the 7/1, then it would be a really strong tank again.

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Sweet Jesus this thread is unreal. Most tier 9 medium tanks just got outclassed by the new AMX 30 and people whine about trivial things.

 

The AMX 30 proto is the best tier 9 medium tank now. Period. Dpm, speed, gun depression and gun handling all in one package. It even can get decent camo values. Average accuracy and above average penetration is nothing compared to all those perks.



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i had to play one game on friends acc, to see is amx as good as numbers suggest or the all crying players "248 only pen" are right...

Tank is fantastic. Didnt fire HEAT in this game, at all.. 
Gun handling, speed, dpm... had no chance to test turret armor, cuase it was ensk... But this tank is one of my favourite...

I stoped grinding crew for t54, boughy 12t and put some TD crew in it... Cant wait for AMX.
Fantastic tank.

Edited by Igor_BL, 31 August 2017 - 11:26 PM.


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View PostIgor_BL, on 31 August 2017 - 11:25 PM, said:

i had to play one game on friends acc, to see is amx as good as numbers suggest or the all crying players "248 only pen" are right...

Tank is fantastic. Didnt fire HEAT in this game, at all.. 
Gun handling, speed, dpm... had no chance to test turret armor, cuase it was ensk... But this tank is one of my favourite...

I stoped grinding crew for t54, boughy 12t and put some TD crew in it... Cant wait for AMX.
Fantastic tank.

 

yeah, its pretty much the best tier9 med now.

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It sucks...

Talk about a Leo-clone pre-patch? Well, now it's all about the usual mid range ridge line crap game with this one, like with a whole bunch of other mediums. But with the amazing defect of lacking the armour that all the other mediums got. There is no way I choose AMX 30 prot. before — say — T-54, now. No chance in hell.

 

There's a whole lot of talking about the pros of this buff(?), but if you saw this tank in the battlefield rarely before... you almost never see it today. That tells more than meta-data.

 
 
 

Edited by stderr, 04 September 2017 - 02:34 PM.


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Ok, let me add a few words myself. I had the PTA since 2014. I got the AMX30prot soon as it came out. I always liked the PTA eventhough it took 3 buffs to make it how it is today.

Initially the AMX30prot made me think PTA was obsolete. After a long time the PTA got the -8 which I never asked but was good ofc. The recent changes makes the PTA obsolete again although

I can think of situations where the differences in shell velocity and pen(for both APCR/HEAT) would be obvious. There had to be some real distinction between them though. I gotta accept that.

 

Mind you, I liked the PTA for it's playstyle and not because I was great in it. I tend to snapshoot and since I'm not great I need soft stats to support that. I 'll try the AMX30 again soon.



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View Poststderr, on 04 September 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

It sucks...

Talk about a Leo-clone pre-patch? Well, now it's all about the usual mid range ridge line crap game with this one, like with a whole bunch of other mediums. But with the amazing defect of lacking the armour that all the other mediums got. There is no way I choose AMX 30 prot. before — say — T-54, now. No chance in hell.

 

There's a whole lot of talking about the pros of this buff(?), but if you saw this tank in the battlefield rarely before... you almost never see it today. That tells more than meta-data.

 
 
 

 

There is no way in hell you'd rather choose a tank with lower alpha, dpm, view range, pen and and accuracy if you use the higher dpm gun over the amx? Jesus the t54 is so overhyped. I played it just before buff and now and it is waaay better. This tank can snap like a boss and can punish mistakes really really well..

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Started grinding for the AMX yesterday. Looks great!

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View Postcommer, on 04 September 2017 - 02:12 PM, said:

 

There is no way in hell you'd rather choose a tank with lower alpha, dpm, view range, pen and and accuracy if you use the higher dpm gun over the amx? Jesus the t54 is so overhyped. I played it just before buff and now and it is waaay better. This tank can snap like a boss and can punish mistakes really really well..

 

T-54 is just a example on a tank which handles the mid-close range game better than AMX 30 prot. I would say almost any T9 medium does that. Either you've got autoloader or a decent turret armour as an edge. What's up with the viewrange b.t.w.?

WG nerfed the accuracy before the patch, and applied the buffs with it. I noticed it and confirmed it with my stats. So you're right. It's better than right before the patch.

 
 

Edited by stderr, 04 September 2017 - 03:57 PM.


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View Poststderr, on 04 September 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

 

T-54 is just a example on a tank which handles the mid-close range game better than AMX 30 prot. I would say almost any T9 medium does that. Either you've got autoloader och a decent turret armour. What's up with the viewrange b.t.w.?

WG nerfed the accuracy before the patch, and applied the buffs with it. I noticed it and confirmed it with my stats. So you're right. It's better than right before the patch.

 

Amx30b is by far the best tier9 med, it has everything it needs. If you cant make it work, its you, not the tank.



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View Poststderr, on 04 September 2017 - 03:56 PM, said:

 

T-54 is just a example on a tank which handles the mid-close range game better than AMX 30 prot. I would say almost any T9 medium does that. Either you've got autoloader or a decent turret armour as an edge. What's up with the viewrange b.t.w.?

WG nerfed the accuracy before the patch, and applied the buffs with it. I noticed it and confirmed it with my stats. So you're right. It's better than right before the patch.

 
 

 

T-54 is terribly overrated. Only thing where it really shines is 330 HEAT pen. Rest of it is just meh.



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View Postbrumbarr, on 04 September 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

Amx30b is by far the best tier9 med, it has everything it needs. If you cant make it work, its you, not the tank.

 

We're discussing subjective things here. You think it got everything with the patch, and I think it lost everything in the patch.

 





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