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SF_Tank #1 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:48 AM

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Hi!

 

Can someone tell me why it is so hard to me to win by my tier X TD:s.

-Jg.Pz E100. 386 games. WR 43%(sold)

-Obj 268. 41 games. WR 29%

-Foch 50 (155). 3 (easy)games. WR 33%


 

For excample tier IX Obj 704. From beginning WR allways over 50 %. Now 337 games, WR 54%. Is it bacause of gold ammo. I havent use them much. Last game I used in Obj 268. Lose. -60 000 credit. :(


 

My WR(all) is 51,65%


 

SF



tajj7 #2 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:59 AM

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1. Aside the Jpe100 those samples are tiny.
2. Your overall win rate is across all tiers, tier 10 is a lot harder and most players lose more at higher tiers.
3. Most tier 10 TDs are very inflexible, they are balanced around their extreme firepower which means they pay for that firepower in other areas like mobility, gun handling etc. Plus many are turretless which again makes them not very versatile.


To win games you generally need to be front line pushing and taking key map spots, most tier 10 TDs are not great at that and work better in more passive roles, generally passive play doesn't win many games, though many maps these days do have stupidly powerful base camping spots, but these will only work if you have enough team mates left who also play passively.

_EXODUZ_ #3 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:02 AM

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If you want some proper help then post a replay pack. Play like 5-10 games and we'll analyse your mistakes.

Most of those tanks are team dependent to say the least.



SF_Tank #4 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:12 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 31 August 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

1. Aside the Jpe100 those samples are tiny.
2. Your overall win rate is across all tiers, tier 10 is a lot harder and most players lose more at higher tiers.
3. Most tier 10 TDs are very inflexible, they are balanced around their extreme firepower which means they pay for that firepower in other areas like mobility, gun handling etc. Plus many are turretless which again makes them not very versatile.


To win games you generally need to be front line pushing and taking key map spots, most tier 10 TDs are not great at that and work better in more passive roles, generally passive play doesn't win many games, though many maps these days do have stupidly powerful base camping spots, but these will only work if you have enough team mates left who also play passively.

 

"most players lose more at higher tiers" Hmmm. If all tanks are in tier X, then the WR are 50/50 on average....For excample

 


Edited by SF_Tank, 31 August 2017 - 09:13 AM.


brumbarr #5 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:41 AM

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View PostSF_Tank, on 31 August 2017 - 09:12 AM, said:

 

"most players lose more at higher tiers" Hmmm. If all tanks are in tier X, then the WR are 50/50 on average....For excample

 

No, most players lose a bit more but some players win a lot more.



Lomion_EU #6 Posted 31 August 2017 - 11:11 AM

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View PostSF_Tank, on 31 August 2017 - 07:48 AM, said:

Hi!

 

Can someone tell me why it is so hard to me to win by my tier X TD:s.

-Jg.Pz E100. 386 games. WR 43%(sold)

-Obj 268. 41 games. WR 29%

-Foch 50 (155). 3 (easy)games. WR 33%


 

For excample tier IX Obj 704. From beginning WR allways over 50 %. Now 337 games, WR 54%. Is it bacause of gold ammo. I havent use them much. Last game I used in Obj 268. Lose. -60 000 credit. :(


 

My WR(all) is 51,65%


 

SF

 

All other comments tell the story, these are 3 passive TD's they rely on the team to spot for you and that every time the team spots a target that you are loaded and aiming in the right direction.  And of course, the 268 and the "old" Foch 155 are/were arguably the two worst tier X TDs in the game.

 

Although to be honest, I don't have a huge issue with wins in tX td's with the two that I have being above my overall average w/r of 52.6%

 

T110E4 121 games 58.68%

Obj. 268 110 games 56.36%

 

I do play the E4 as if it's an E100, up close and personal and tend to play the 268 in mid-range engagements.

 

Maybe do as suggested and provide some replays. There are good players in this forum that despite the sarcasm and light hearted trolling, can and will give you some pointers.

 

Tricky to understand why you would take the 3m cr loss on the sale of the JPZ E100, unless of course, you were desperate for the garage space.



Zoltan1251 #7 Posted 31 August 2017 - 11:46 AM

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View PostSF_Tank, on 31 August 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

Hi!

 

Can someone tell me why it is so hard to me to win by my tier X TD:s.

-Jg.Pz E100. 386 games. WR 43%(sold)

-Obj 268. 41 games. WR 29%

-Foch 50 (155). 3 (easy)games. WR 33%


 

For excample tier IX Obj 704. From beginning WR allways over 50 %. Now 337 games, WR 54%. Is it bacause of gold ammo. I havent use them much. Last game I used in Obj 268. Lose. -60 000 credit. :(


 

My WR(all) is 51,65%


 

SF

 

do you camp?..... like "i am TD i must camp there is no other play i can do because TDs suppose to camp"?.... dont do that, especially JGPZ E100, its freaking heavy tank with brutal alpha, just go front line with heavies and shoot someone in the face, it helps team so much.... if you camp with that monster and look for shots you miss one shell and you are useless for 1 minute

SF_Tank #8 Posted 31 August 2017 - 12:17 PM

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Mayby I camp too much


Edited by SF_Tank, 31 August 2017 - 03:25 PM.


commer #9 Posted 31 August 2017 - 12:34 PM

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View PostLomion_EU, on 31 August 2017 - 11:11 AM, said:

 

All other comments tell the story, these are 3 passive TD's they rely on the team to spot for you and that every time the team spots a target that you are loaded and aiming in the right direction.  And of course, the 268 and the "old" Foch 155 are/were arguably the two worst tier X TDs in the game.

 

Although to be honest, I don't have a huge issue with wins in tX td's with the two that I have being above my overall average w/r of 52.6%

 

T110E4 121 games 58.68%

Obj. 268 110 games 56.36%

 

I do play the E4 as if it's an E100, up close and personal and tend to play the 268 in mid-range engagements.

 

Maybe do as suggested and provide some replays. There are good players in this forum that despite the sarcasm and light hearted trolling, can and will give you some pointers.

 

Tricky to understand why you would take the 3m cr loss on the sale of the JPZ E100, unless of course, you were desperate for the garage space.

 

Wait are you insane? JpZe100 is a passive TD? Maybe that's the problem. Sniping is dead unless you are in the udes. Jpze100 is very decent at brawling because you can at best take a shot and trade it for 1050 damage. Foch and 268 are also bad at sniping and better at closer ranges. 




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