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qpranger #1 Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:29 PM

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...if WG offered Grand Battles as a standalone tier 10 mode, always available on demand, instead of us having to play through many normal battles before the system relents and throws us into a grand one? 

 

I am really honestly keen on trying Grand Battles, but when I want to try them

 

Couple of people on the RU forums have posted screenshots of their replay folders proving that they have played 50+ battles in tier 10 tanks yesterday and today and not gotten into even one Grand Battle. Why WG, why cripple something that could have worked so well actually?



Ubervold #2 Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:35 PM

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So you can not just choose that mode? I thought that was a joke but I guess the joke is on me.

I guess they dont want everyone to play grand battles because it is a potential risk to overload the server?



Balc0ra #3 Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:38 PM

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I suspect it's a sever load issue to. That and we all know how well new modes work when they are selected outside of randoms. They usually die out fast. Hiding them in randoms is not a bad way to keep it alive. But then again, there are those that want to play it. So I don't see the "harm" of having it as both. So you can get it randoms, or select it as it's own mode. And get a 100% chance to get into it vs 10% as it stands now.

Ubervold #4 Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:41 PM

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I would like to try it but I am not going to waste my time trying since I am not interested in normal tier X games at the moment.

Synopsis0 #5 Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:44 PM

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You diselect the other mods and select just the grandbattle , is it hard to use the interface becouse its not rocketscience

Jigabachi #6 Posted 31 August 2017 - 07:44 PM

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Yeah, that was a weird decission. Might indeed be related to server load, even though the amount of players doesn't change...

Anyway, it's a bummer. But I can't play it anyway...



cro001 #7 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:11 PM

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Setting a prime time would be a good start.

dreamer78 #8 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:20 PM

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View PostSynopsis0, on 31 August 2017 - 06:44 PM, said:

You diselect the other mods and select just the grandbattle , is it hard to use the interface becouse its not rocketscience

 

yeah because you can clearly diselect random battles :facepalm:

c0keb0ttle #9 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:28 PM

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I think they included them in the random queue because the VAST majority of players have absolutely no idea how choose a different game mode.

 

All they do is click the big Battle button.

 

So if it was a separate battle mode it would die from lack of players like all the other special game modes.

 



Spurtung #10 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:34 PM

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View PostSynopsis0, on 31 August 2017 - 08:44 PM, said:

You diselect the other mods and select just the grandbattle , is it hard to use the interface becouse its not rocketscience

 

My interface lacks the possibility to disable 'Standard Battle'. Perhaps you'd be so kind and follow up that statement with a tutorial?

CmdRatScabies #11 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:36 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 31 August 2017 - 08:34 PM, said:

 

My interface lacks the possibility to disable 'Standard Battle'. Perhaps you'd be so kind and follow up that statement with a tutorial?

 

Maybe it is rocket science after all.  :)

Erwin_Von_Braun #12 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:47 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 31 August 2017 - 06:44 PM, said:

Yeah, that was a weird decission. Might indeed be related to server load, even though the amount of players doesn't change...

Anyway, it's a bummer. But I can't play it anyway...

 

Wonder if it may be to do with smoothing out the MM Tier VIII 'situation' by pulling loads of Tier X into their own mode.

Jumping_Turtle #13 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:54 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 31 August 2017 - 08:47 PM, said:

 

Wonder if it may be to do with smoothing out the MM Tier VIII 'situation' by pulling loads of Tier X into their own mode.

 

So far today that is exactly what is happening. Way more top tier in my T8 than before this patch.

Erwin_Von_Braun #14 Posted 31 August 2017 - 08:57 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 31 August 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

 

So far today that is exactly what is happening. Way more top tier in my T8 than before this patch.

 

I admit I had no idea - haven't played much since the update.

Guess it can only be a good thing.



Bitter_Kipper #15 Posted 31 August 2017 - 09:02 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 31 August 2017 - 07:54 PM, said:

 

So far today that is exactly what is happening. Way more top tier in my T8 than before this patch.

 

​By top tier you mean All Tier 8 games? I wish I could have some of that RNG coz a 110 is a really shitty Tier 10

 

Oh on topic - WG trying to keep this mode alive I think by making players play it. Now if they had done it with tier 8 where all the friggin premiums are that would have made a lot more sense.................

 

Edited coz reasons soontm


Edited by Ballisticgel, 31 August 2017 - 09:04 PM.


IncandescentGerbil #16 Posted 01 September 2017 - 01:23 AM

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Played one game on grand. Got lost. Didn't like it and deselected. Don't play Encounter, Assault or ranked, either. Wish they would just stop pissing about and make 15v15 standards better. Like, maybe, new maps or something (lols).

Jumping_Turtle #17 Posted 01 September 2017 - 01:24 AM

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View PostBallisticgel, on 31 August 2017 - 09:02 PM, said:

 

​By top tier you mean All Tier 8 games?

 

No. Got at lot of 357 batlles also where I was one of the three.



Kozzy #18 Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:29 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 31 August 2017 - 06:29 PM, said:

...if WG offered Grand Battles as a standalone tier 10 mode, always available on demand, instead of us having to play through many normal battles before the system relents and throws us into a grand one? 

 

I am really honestly keen on trying Grand Battles, but when I want to try them

 

I don't often agree with you but I really do here, it would be nice to have this as a separate battle mode to queue into but I have theories as to why WG doesn't want people to choose...

 

View PostUbervold, on 31 August 2017 - 06:35 PM, said:

...I guess they dont want everyone to play grand battles because it is a potential risk to overload the server?

 

View PostBalc0ra, on 31 August 2017 - 06:38 PM, said:

I suspect it's a sever load issue to....

 

View PostJigabachi, on 31 August 2017 - 06:44 PM, said:

Yeah, that was a weird decission. Might indeed be related to server load...

 

I don't think it's a server load issue, I can't imagine 1 grand battle taking much more more server resources than 2 standard battles.

 

View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 31 August 2017 - 07:47 PM, said:

Wonder if it may be to do with smoothing out the MM Tier VIII 'situation' by pulling loads of Tier X into their own mode.

 

I've said it before but I think this is one of the reasons grand battles is implemented the way it is.  Too many people get T10 tanks in their matches?  Open a grand battle queue or two to lighten the load.

 

I think they won't let people choose for two reasons:

 

1. If the mode is unpopular it will become massively apparent as fewer and fewer people select the option, the queues get longer and the mode dies 

2. It would highlight the balance issues for the tanks at T10 and the (currently) only map available.  A meta will develop for that map and people will only play the tanks that suite the meta (WZ-1115a, STRV103b etc).  This would allow people to complain about the tanks, the map and the mode with valid evidence.

 

By sneaking it into the random queue they are able to hide these two issues nicely.

 



Ubervold #19 Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:32 AM

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View PostKozzy, on 01 September 2017 - 08:29 AM, said:

 

I don't often agree with you but I really do here, it would be nice to have this as a separate battle mode to queue into but I have theories as to why WG doesn't want people to choose...

 

 

 

 

I don't think it's a server load issue, I can't imagine 1 grand battle taking much more more server resources than 2 standard battles.

 

 

I've said it before but I think this is one of the reasons grand battles is implemented the way it is.  Too many people get T10 tanks in their matches?  Open a grand battle queue or two to lighten the load.

 

I think they won't let people choose for two reasons:

 

1. If the mode is unpopular it will become massively apparent as fewer and fewer people select the option, the queues get longer and the mode dies 

2. It would highlight the balance issues for the tanks at T10 and the (currently) only map available.  A meta will develop for that map and people will only play the tanks that suite the meta (WZ-1115a, STRV103b etc).  This would allow people to complain about the tanks, the map and the mode with valid evidence.

 

By sneaking it into the random queue they are able to hide these two issues nicely.

 

 

You could be on to something there.

HundeWurst #20 Posted 01 September 2017 - 08:38 AM

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Well hardly anyone would even do that.

The Grand Battle map is to flawed than to be playable over and over again.

 

The map looks like its done with an minimum effort. The typical Wargaming™ retraded map design. Thats about it.






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