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Dammonar #1 Posted 03 September 2017 - 05:35 PM

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WG thanks for buffing those, now I can grind credits easily 190 pen is more than enough to deal with most I face and almost 250 apcr pen is enough to reliably pen defender lower plate. I also don't face t 10 as often which is a huge plus. Now don' get me wrong you can't fight p2w tanks and lowes frontaly but that has never been the job of these tanks..

imperiumgraecum #2 Posted 03 September 2017 - 06:44 PM

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japtank #3 Posted 03 September 2017 - 07:00 PM

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Yep, T54 proto is now a fine tank, it was high time.

I hope they now fix the IS6 and give the CDC a better gun, that would be awesome :)



Radu_Korne #4 Posted 03 September 2017 - 07:15 PM

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I can confirm it's more comfortable to play... but competitive? REALLY? with defender/skorpion/patriots? hell no. Did bounce 3k on my first game. Fools keep shooting the turret.

Dammonar #5 Posted 03 September 2017 - 07:27 PM

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View PostRadu_Korne, on 03 September 2017 - 07:15 PM, said:

I can confirm it's more comfortable to play... but competitive? REALLY? with defender/skorpion/patriots? hell no. Did bounce 3k on my first game. Fools keep shooting the turret.

 

You can spot and bushwank with t44 100 (6 skill crew) not so much with defender

Morgaroth_ #6 Posted 03 September 2017 - 07:27 PM

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T-44-100 is a fine tank, but I haven't had a top tier match in it since 2016.

AliceUnchained #7 Posted 03 September 2017 - 08:08 PM

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That's awesome. Simply means the other Tier VIII mediums have even more tanks they'll struggle to deal with.

Ceeb #8 Posted 04 September 2017 - 05:38 AM

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View Postjaptank, on 03 September 2017 - 06:00 PM, said:

Yep, T54 proto is now a fine tank, it was high time.

I hope they now fix the IS6 and give the CDC a better gun, that would be awesome :)

 

Can't fix the iS6 without fixing the 112.  

 

250 heat round isnt enough.   It bounces more often than not.  

 

 



Ceeb #9 Posted 04 September 2017 - 05:39 AM

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View Postimperiumgraecum, on 03 September 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

:girl:

 

 

I care.  I liked the 54 Prot.  Now I love driving it.  

 

 



Search_Warrant #10 Posted 04 September 2017 - 06:00 AM

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Meh. still a poor mans heavy and a crap slug of a medium. is-6 150mm mantle got penned, they gave it 150+ armor behind the mantle and now its 300 effective. mod1 gets penned and they add 20mm. IS-6 gets preff :trollface:

 

Edit: typo


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PricelessPlayingPancake #11 Posted 04 September 2017 - 06:44 AM

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Met so many ,,turret buff testers " and Patriots  yesterday in  my Nutcracker(WZ-111G FT ... Tier 9 chinese TD).  It was like ,,Oh buddy, it seems you have a strong turret. It would be a real shame .... :trollface:"  . Best moment was  , when an enemy patriot got pned twice straight through his gun mantlet from 400 meters and ran away with 5 hp left and two eyeholes...... Mmmm balance



hajoittaja #12 Posted 04 September 2017 - 07:13 AM

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Yeah, t-54 proto is fun to play again thx to decent gun handling. Shame they didnt fix the brittle ammo rack as well.

 



tajj7 #13 Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:06 AM

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Yeh I'm looking forward to playing it, some pretty substantial buffs there. Shame the MM is so bad though so it won't get a chance to shine. It's amazing a tank gets that many buffs and still only becomes decent, especially on a tank that was solid when it came out. Shows how far the power creep has gone on tier 8 

Zodiac1960s #14 Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:11 AM

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View Postimperiumgraecum, on 03 September 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

:girl:

Hilarious..  So ducking funny I crap my pants.. Bahahaha..  God damn you are the funniest man alive!!! 



Zodiac1960s #15 Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:12 AM

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Enjoying the proto buff. Gun is much more reliable now.

leggasiini #16 Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:33 AM

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View PostSearch_Warrant, on 04 September 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:

Meh. still a poor mans heavy and a crap slug of a medium. is-6 150mm mantle got penned, they gave it 150+ armor behind the mantle and now its 300 effective. mod1 gets better and they add 20mm. IS-6 gets preff :trollface:

 

IS-6 also has D-25T with utter aids gun handling and accuracy, as well as 217 APCR instead of 247 APCR. Mod 1 can atleast hit things and pen things, and 247 APCR means that it can atleast hurt tier 8 HTs. Good luck doing absolutely any damage to Defender or Liberte (too inaccurate to hit cupola reliably) with IS-6

 

Are you still trying to say that IS-6 is good these days? Because it isnt, I love facing IS-6s with my tier 8 HTs. My Löwe punches through it easily, my Defender just flat out rapes them and even my O-Ho can blast them for 700 through roof with AP.


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rush0620 #17 Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:43 AM

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190 mm pen not enough! T54 Lightweight normal ammo It would be good.

SirTogII #18 Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:50 AM

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I did a garage compare and the T44-100 might just be the most well rounded t8 prem med now. The mobility, dpm, gun handling and now turret armour enough to ridge fight. Only played one match in it yesterday but certainly felt a much improved tank.

Kartoshkaya #19 Posted 04 September 2017 - 09:59 AM

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Some people have wierd definition of the word competitive. Sure the changes are great but competitive... hmm pretty sure you'll get kicked from most clans if you try to go CW with one of those.

SirTogII #20 Posted 04 September 2017 - 10:15 AM

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View PostKartoshkaya, on 04 September 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Some people have wierd definition of the word competitive. Sure the changes are great but competitive... hmm pretty sure you'll get kicked from most clans if you try to go CW with one of those.

How relevant?!? T32 is played a fair bit in t8 cw but hardly a common tank in randoms. Haven't played cw since the lights were changed but at least back then it was either T54lw or heavies (IS3/T32/Defender/Patriot) that were the meat and bones. Can't think of any medium that was used, possibly a Pershing by some hipster. Game mode way too different to be used as comparison or to guage a tanks competitiveness. 

Nobody is going to claim either of the Russian media are better than some of the OP prems but can still be competitive. 






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