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Sherman_1962 #1 Posted 06 September 2017 - 10:35 AM

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Maybe a strange question. But why are the wheels of the HT No. VI and Tiger 131 in the wrong order. On the Tiger 1 are they correct displayed but on the other 2 not.

ricoBenitez1 #2 Posted 06 September 2017 - 10:39 AM

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cuz if they were in correct order you not have anything to ask about here on forum.

Toni112007 #3 Posted 06 September 2017 - 10:43 AM

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Because reasons.

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View PostSherman_1962, on 06 September 2017 - 09:35 AM, said:

Maybe a strange question. But why are the wheels of the HT No. VI and Tiger 131 in the wrong order. On the Tiger 1 are they correct displayed but on the other 2 not.

 

I haven't got the game running but off the top of my head it's probably the difference between the early rubber rimmed wheels and the later steel only wheels.

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View PostSherman_1962, on 06 September 2017 - 11:35 AM, said:

Tiger 131

Where, exactly, are the wheels wrong?

 



TungstenHitman #6 Posted 06 September 2017 - 10:47 AM

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I think the Chinese T9 TD wheel placement may be somewhat inaccurate too though I could be masteken

 



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View Postjabster, on 06 September 2017 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

I haven't got the game running but off the top of my head it's probably the difference between the early rubber rimmed wheels and the later steel only wheels.

 

Yup.

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Getting the wheel order wrong is disgraceful, I want a full refund now.

Balc0ra #9 Posted 06 September 2017 - 12:38 PM

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Well Tiger 1 is an early HD model. It was back when WG had other companies do the HD models for them going by images mostly etc. And if you google search for Tiger pictures. Most you do indeed see the steel wheels displayed correct as on the current Tiger I model that they might have used as a reference. But the 131 and IV is laser scanned via the real model, as all HD model that still has a tank to scan are. Thus his is correct to in a way, as displayed on the 131 now.

 

As for the order issue? Well several reasons for that.  Tiger tanks had rubber wheels first. And then after they had built around 800, they started with steel wheels, as shown on the Tiger I as pointed out above. This in an attempt to reduce cost, increase load, ease production, and in hopes to fix mud/freezing issues the outer wheels had on the rubber version. Thus when steel came, the outer row of wheels was left off. Resulting in a different look. That and Tiger tanks would not fit on the trains for transport to the front with a full rubber wheel load, as it was to wide. So they had to remove the outer wheels to make it fit. So thus, some rubber wheeled tanks might even have the Tiger I steel look on some images.

 

That or an other explanation to the the order issue could simply be as I said above... mud and freezing. As during winter mud would build up behind the front of the road wheels. Causing it to freeze at night. Immobilizing the tank. Removing the outer row of wheels would fix that. Or during warmer seasons, they had issues with rocks and debris getting stuck during urban combat etc. And simply removing the outer wheels, gives it a different look, as shown here. So there is no real correct order as such if you will.

 

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Edited by Balc0ra, 06 September 2017 - 12:39 PM.


mateyflip #10 Posted 06 September 2017 - 01:04 PM

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Nice answer mate, thank you.

qpranger #11 Posted 06 September 2017 - 01:06 PM

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WG should at least allow us to rearrange the wheel order in the garage during winter months to remove the frozen mud and keep the tank mobile.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 06 September 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:

Well Tiger 1 is an early HD model. It was back when WG had other companies do the HD models for them going by images mostly etc. And if you google search for Tiger pictures. Most you do indeed see the steel wheels displayed correct as on the current Tiger I model that they might have used as a reference. But the 131 and IV is laser scanned via the real model, as all HD model that still has a tank to scan are. Thus his is correct to in a way, as displayed on the 131 now.

 

As for the order issue? Well several reasons for that.  Tiger tanks had rubber wheels first. And then after they had built around 800, they started with steel wheels, as shown on the Tiger I as pointed out above. This in an attempt to reduce cost, increase load, ease production, and in hopes to fix mud/freezing issues the outer wheels had on the rubber version. Thus when steel came, the outer row of wheels was left off. Resulting in a different look. That and Tiger tanks would not fit on the trains for transport to the front with a full rubber wheel load, as it was to wide. So they had to remove the outer wheels to make it fit. So thus, some rubber wheeled tanks might even have the Tiger I steel look on some images.

 

That or an other explanation to the the order issue could simply be as I said above... mud and freezing. As during winter mud would build up behind the front of the road wheels. Causing it to freeze at night. Immobilizing the tank. Removing the outer row of wheels would fix that. Or during warmer seasons, they had issues with rocks and debris getting stuck during urban combat etc. And simply removing the outer wheels, gives it a different look, as shown here. So there is no real correct order as such if you will.

 

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To be honest I think that just over complicates matters when the simple answer is one is modelled on the normal configuration of a latter model and the other two of an earlier model. 


Edited by jabster, 07 September 2017 - 10:31 AM.


Balc0ra #13 Posted 06 September 2017 - 01:33 PM

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View Postjabster, on 06 September 2017 - 01:21 PM, said:

 

To be honest I think that just makes ver complicates matters when the simple answer is one is modelled on the normal configuration of a letter model and the other two of an earlier model. 

 

I know, but just pointing out, early or late. There is no "correct" order.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 06 September 2017 - 12:33 PM, said:

 

I know, but just pointing out, early or late. There is no "correct" order.

 

I not sure what's up with your post but I can't even correct the horrible typo's in my reply!


Edited by jabster, 06 September 2017 - 01:41 PM.






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