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flashbarts #1 Posted 07 September 2017 - 02:22 PM

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Not obsessed with WN8 or anything, but just got a 9.5k spotting game in 13 90 and the WN8 was only 2.7k, lower than other games where i killed more, tracked more etc

 

Why isn't WN8 calculated with spotting in mind as well as shooting etc ? Does anyone know ?

 

Also, are there plans to change whatever that answer is :-)

 

thanks

 

 



Kozzy #2 Posted 07 September 2017 - 02:33 PM

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Not even sure if assisted/spotting damage is exposed by WG's API for XVM to use?

Edited by Kozzy, 07 September 2017 - 02:34 PM.


Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #3 Posted 07 September 2017 - 02:36 PM

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View PostKozzy, on 07 September 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

Not even sure if assisted/spotting damage is exposed by WG's API for XVM to use?

 

I think it is nowadays... but not in the past. 

 

But for OP.... WN8 is really obsolete, so best is to stop bothering.



brumbarr #4 Posted 07 September 2017 - 02:50 PM

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When wn8 was created, the creators couldnt get the spotting dmg information from the client. They can now but that would make  the rating of when they couldnt  completely messed up.

 

btw, wn8 is not supported by its developers anymore and will nto be further developed. Atm it is quite crude measurement of skill.



IncandescentGerbil #5 Posted 07 September 2017 - 02:59 PM

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Wn8... So I'm currently registering 1920 in the Foch B, against a career average of 1230. 1700 in Type 5... In other words, it's complete nonsense. Only play the latest OP tanks, and your numbers will rocket. Conversely, my most played tank is the mod1, until this patch a load of junk. Wn8 in that about 1100. It's basically a stupid, childish system that is increasingly a source of disinformation. If the expected numbers are not specifically adjusted per tank then what is the point?

flashbarts #6 Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:24 PM

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thanks for reply. interesting

 

be nice if they had a global system that reflected such things as spotting, blocking etc as they are part of the game

 

cheers



CmdRatScabies #7 Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:27 PM

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View Postflashbarts, on 07 September 2017 - 04:24 PM, said:

thanks for reply. interesting

 

be nice if they had a global system that reflected such things as spotting, blocking etc as they are part of the game

 

cheers

 

But then you'd just have an argument about how much spotting and blocking was worth compared to direct damage etc.  And MOE already combines Damage & assisted damage.

brumbarr #8 Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:31 PM

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View Postflashbarts, on 07 September 2017 - 04:24 PM, said:

thanks for reply. interesting

 

be nice if they had a global system that reflected such things as spotting, blocking etc as they are part of the game

 

cheers

 

MoE kinda does that.

soul3ater #9 Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:52 PM

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I think it only counts damage.

I had 7k spotting game but less than 2k win8.

brumbarr #10 Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:54 PM

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You can complain about that single game but thats kinda irrellevant. Wn8 is a measure over several games. And aslong as it doesnt count spotting for anyone, everybody is on equal footing and the rating is accurate.

Unless you somehow spot on avg much more than others, but i doubt that.

soul3ater #11 Posted 07 September 2017 - 04:58 PM

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Who's complaining? I am just pointing out spotting doesnt affect your win8...

Obsessive_Compulsive #12 Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:11 PM

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View Postsoul3ater, on 07 September 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

Who's complaining? I am just pointing out spotting doesnt affect your win8...

 

Thank you for the information. its 5 years late but still.. commendable...



brumbarr #13 Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:19 PM

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View Postsoul3ater, on 07 September 2017 - 04:58 PM, said:

Who's complaining? I am just pointing out spotting doesnt affect your win8...

Wasnt talking about you, just the public that complains about wn8 not including spotting.



soul3ater #14 Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:24 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 07 September 2017 - 04:19 PM, said:

Wasnt talking about you, just the public that complains about wn8 not including spotting.

My bad.

 

 



soul3ater #15 Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:27 PM

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View PostConor_Notorious_McGregor, on 07 September 2017 - 04:11 PM, said:

 

Thank you for the information. its 5 years late but still.. commendable...

You're welcome,won't be any use of how to avoid getting battered by mayweather but at least it helps ingame.



CmdRatScabies #16 Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:38 PM

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View PostConor_Notorious_McGregor, on 07 September 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

 

Thank you for the information. its 5 years late but still.. commendable...

 

Ah Mr McGregor.  It was a pleasure to meet you in game earlier today, you are an absolute delight, I haven't been called a "Mogol" in years.  And all because me & a Batchat ran away and left you to die on a flank - that moment when the meatshields spot a lost flank and relocate faster than a Unicum.

Baldrickk #17 Posted 07 September 2017 - 05:56 PM

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View PostZe_HOFF_fverhoef, on 07 September 2017 - 02:36 PM, said:

 

I think it is nowadays... but not in the past. 

 

But for OP.... WN8 is really obsolete, so best is to stop bothering.

It is, but not in any usable form



Obsessive_Compulsive #18 Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:38 AM

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View Postsoul3ater, on 07 September 2017 - 05:27 PM, said:

You're welcome,won't be any use of how to avoid getting battered by mayweather but at least it helps ingame.

 

Not a scratch. he was more battered by the whiskey he drank to celebrate.

View PostCmdRatScabies, on 07 September 2017 - 05:38 PM, said:

 

Ah Mr McGregor.  It was a pleasure to meet you in game earlier today, you are an absolute delight, I haven't been called a "Mogol" in years.  And all because me & a Batchat ran away and left you to die on a flank - that moment when the meatshields spot a lost flank and relocate faster than a Unicum.

An interesting interpretation of events. I garuantee you that your decision making is worse than mine. admittedly on this occasion I failed to anticipate that a top tier medium would show such cowardice. bare in mind that I was prepared to lead the way for you in my skorp G which as you know excels at brawling. 1 shot from me and a clip from you and they lose a  t-54... in your mind I suppose the reasoning was

 

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE how to knockj the yellow of your back?


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CmdRatScabies #19 Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:48 AM

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View PostConor_Notorious_McGregor, on 08 September 2017 - 10:38 AM, said:

An interesting interpretation of events. I garuantee you that your decision making is worse than mine. admittedly on this occasion I failed to anticipate that a top tier medium would show such cowardice. bare in mind that I was prepared to lead the way for you in my skorp G which as you know excels at brawling. 1 shot from me and a clip from you and they lose a  t-54... in your mind I suppose the reasoning was

 

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE how to knockj the yellow of your back?

 

Well the Batchat thought better of it too so we're all cowards & failed to follow you to victory against the 6 mediums that crested the ridge & obliterated you?  You're just salty cuz to spotted it later than us.   By the way the Batchat was top tier not me and how were you going to lead anyone to anything other than an early garage in a bottom tier Skorpion G?  If we take out a T54 then the other 5 will turn round and run away when they see your mighty presence?   Me thinks your opinion of yourself is inflated and your choice of insults offensive.

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