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CmdRatScabies #41 Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:08 PM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 07 September 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

Muffin is right that this August saw the lowest August for the last two years, but only marginally.

 

Last week there was 99.84% of the players compared to the same week last year. Not exactly conclusive for a longitudinal trend, but slightly better than glancing at the server numbers for a split second in time.

 


 

 

Wasn't the T44/100 tank grind about this time last year?

ZlatanArKung #42 Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:11 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 07 September 2017 - 06:01 PM, said:

 

And check against 2015 & 2014.  2016 may have been an anomaly - rubbish summer? Tank marathon?

 

You can also check and post the numbers. I am going to do other stuff so can't check on computer for a while.

 

But I can't remember a 2016 tank marathon during summer.



ZlatanArKung #43 Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:12 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 07 September 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

 

Wasn't the T44/100 tank grind about this time last year?

 

I think the T-44/100 was during september/October.



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View PostCobra6, on 07 September 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

Once you pass puberty, you start dying albeit slowly, same for games. Once they've reached their peak in new registrations they start dying.

 

Doesn't mean it's a fast process but yeah, technically WoT is dying but if Wargaming go about it tactically and don't release too many broken (premium) tanks like lately, it will remain alive for another 5-10 years.

If they do, well then they might actually speed the process up.

 

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Penzijon3r #45 Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:15 PM

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View Postatomskytten, on 07 September 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

71k players total on EU server 1 & 2 combined. Used to be 250k.

 

 

One server can carry about 100k players... when they turned off EU3? Did I miss something?

CmdRatScabies #46 Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:15 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 07 September 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

 

I think the T-44/100 was during september/October.

 

Maybe the Swedish tank line?  Can't remember exactly when that was released but it will have caused an increase in activity.

Long_Range_Sniper #47 Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:24 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 07 September 2017 - 05:08 PM, said:

Wasn't the T44/100 tank grind about this time last year?

 

I can't remember, but if I was running WG I'd run a marathon when server numbers were predicted to fall anyway.

 

Overall, I think there's a difference between feeling the game has stagnated, dumbed down, gone P2W, or whatever, and that it's actually dying.



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CmdRatScabies #49 Posted 07 September 2017 - 06:36 PM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 07 September 2017 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

Overall, I think there's a difference between feeling the game has stagnated, dumbed down, gone P2W, or whatever, and that it's actually dying.

 

Yeah I'd agree with that.  Some of the changes don't seem to have been well thought through.

unhappy_bunny #50 Posted 07 September 2017 - 07:34 PM

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Just logged on to the server, 123604 online at the moment. 19:34 UK time

 

 

where were they all when the game was declared dead at 3:46 pm? Don't they know its too late now? 


Edited by unhappy_bunny, 07 September 2017 - 07:36 PM.


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lord_chipmonk #52 Posted 07 September 2017 - 08:59 PM

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People have been saying WoT is dying for as long as I've been playing the game. Bit like Stephen Hawking. 

 

Doctors: I'm sorry Mr Hawking, but you'll be dead before you're 30. 

Hawking: Glad I didn't invite that party pooper to my 75th. 



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View PostCobra6, on 07 September 2017 - 05:07 PM, said:

Once you pass puberty, you start dying albeit slowly, same for games. Once they've reached their peak in new registrations they start dying.

 

Doesn't mean it's a fast process but yeah, technically WoT is dying but if Wargaming go about it tactically and don't release too many broken (premium) tanks like lately, it will remain alive for another 5-10 years.

If they do, well then they might actually speed the process up.

 

Cobra 6

 

LOL always the negative vibes, if you don't like the game stop playing.  If you guys could add something constructive and friendly that would help, but the constant crying and whining about so called devious WOT gets depressing.  If you, Foch, and the rest cry all the time people will just move away from you.  Cobra it is the same people who constantly cry and whine on their videos who have hurt the game more than anything WOT could do.  

 



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View PostDracheimFlug, on 07 September 2017 - 02:58 PM, said:

 

Yes yes we are all doomed. How many 7-ish + year old games are doing as well as they did when they were newer? 

 

In other news, mid week, and during normal business/school hours. Not exactly prime time.

 

Quite a few actually



ZlatanArKung #55 Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:49 PM

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The most played game of today (LoL) was released 2009. So older games (7 year+) are still very popular if cared for in a good way by the developer.

CS:GO, also very popular, released 2012 (5 years old).

WoW, released 2004.

 

Dota 2, released 2013.

 

Overwatch, released 2016 (so only really new game).

 

Hearthstone, released 2014 (only 3 years old).

 

This is among online games, since those are the easiest to check. But I doubt there are single player games with higher number of players.

 

So the idea that games over 5 years will die is wrong. The games lifetime depends on core quality and how developer keeps their game in shape over time.

A game like WoT could survive for another 5 years with ease if cared for in a good way, since the core of it is really good.

 

Blizzard has also recently re-released a game called Starcraft Remastered (Starcraft Brood War, which was first released in 1998). Only changes are, slight graphical ones (more polygons/unit) and better compatibility with modern computers (hardware and software) and introduced ladder system. Rest is left untouched (meaning, everything that made the game the most successful RTS ever created (this far) is left intact).


 


Edited by ZlatanArKung, 07 September 2017 - 09:58 PM.


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View PostZlatanArKung, on 07 September 2017 - 09:49 PM, said:

The most played game of today (LoL) was released 2009. So older games (7 year+) are still very popular if cared for in a good way by the developer.

CS:GO, also very popular, released 2012 (5 years old).

WoW, released 2004.

 

Dota 2, released 2013.

 

Overwatch, released 2016 (so only really new game).

 

Hearthstone, released 2014 (only 3 years old).

 

This is among online games, since those are the easiest to check. But I doubt there are single player games with higher number of players.

 

So the idea that games over 5 years will die is wrong. The games lifetime depends on core quality and how developer keeps their game in shape over time.

A game like WoT could survive for another 5 years with ease if cared for in a good way, since the core of it is really good.

 

Blizzard has also recently re-released a game called Starcraft Remastered (Starcraft Brood War, which was first released in 1998). Only changes are, slight graphical ones (more polygons/unit) and better compatibility with modern computers (hardware and software) and introduced ladder system. Rest is left untouched (meaning, everything that made the game the most successful RTS ever created (this far) is left intact).


 

 

GS:GO, 5 years old so under 7.

DOTA 2, 4 years old, ditto

Overwatch, Hearthstone, both under 7.

 

I did not say 5+ I said 7+ and I asked how many are doing as well as they were, not whether they were dying. There are significantly older games than anything on your list that are still alive. However they do not have anywhere near as many players as in their prime.

 

WoW is the only 7+ year old game on your list but it has fewer players than it once had too. 



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View Postatomskytten, on 07 September 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

 

I believe it was back in 2013 or 2014 that at prime time it used to be 250K players, at most this year I have seen 96k total and now after the end of the summer vacations not so much. 140-180k drop in peak players is quite substantial.

 

Hmm 130 to 160k after a new patch or event is usual for Fri, Sat, Sun. 

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View Postflashbarts, on 07 September 2017 - 04:26 PM, said:

i have noticed clan room is emptier and emptier these days

 

The better players, the dedicated ones who keep it going are not playing as much...when we talk about it, there are two reasons

 

not enough variety in the maps and the fact that they are bored with having 10 tomatoes on their team when the other team has 10 unicums (exaggeration but you get the drift) 

 

Some games are auto lose no matter how good you are 

 

they wont do anything about it so, yeah, the game is probably expiring slowly

 

 

I can imagine after you unlocked anything you want and played every tank so many hundreds of times and aced each then go for marks after seeing the same maps and worse teams people would be inclined to play less. I seen many 30k+ players using the new Chinese TD line so that's something different for some players. 

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View PostDeathByDribbling, on 07 September 2017 - 05:53 PM, said:

 

Play something else and you realise how dumb wg's choices over mm, pay-to-win, tank balancing, even allowing xvm and so on have been.  If the game is slowly dying then WG have only themselves to blame.

 

Yea, try Hearthstone for example. Why not. Perfect game.

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Hear ye hear ye!!! Everything and everyone will end, eventually.

 






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