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Aoishi #61 Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:01 AM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 07 September 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

 

Yes yes we are all doomed. How many 7-ish + year old games are doing as well as they did when they were newer? 

 

In other news, mid week, and during normal business/school hours. Not exactly prime time.

 

​Prime time is my jam

Specifically studiopolis zone act 2



Zodiac1960s #62 Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:52 AM

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So are we all. Slowly we die.

ipmj969 #63 Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:56 AM

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View Postatomskytten, on 07 September 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

71k players total on EU server 1 & 2 combined. Used to be 250k.

 

 

How can it be dead ffs, EU 1 & 2 / then you have all the other servers around the world... man tin hat moment i think there must be close to 700,000+ playing at any one time, I think that is very healthy

Micconos #64 Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:29 AM

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View Postatomskytten, on 07 September 2017 - 03:46 PM, said:

71k players total on EU server 1 & 2 combined. Used to be 250k.

 

 

So?

Ancybot #65 Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:03 AM

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View PostBrutal_Enforcer_007, on 08 September 2017 - 05:56 AM, said:

 

How can it be dead ffs, EU 1 & 2 / then you have all the other servers around the world... man tin hat moment i think there must be close to 700,000+ playing at any one time, I think that is very healthy

 

dont know who said that game is dead, but it is dying slowly. In the highest general online peaks now we dont even get to RU-only peaks when game was on wave. WG is doing nothing, new premiums and new tech trees also didnt get players into game, 30v30 mode also didnt. 

DracheimFlug #66 Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:13 AM

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View PostAncymon0, on 08 September 2017 - 07:03 AM, said:

 

dont know who said that game is dead, but it is dying slowly. In the highest general online peaks now we dont even get to RU-only peaks when game was on wave. WG is doing nothing, new premiums and new tech trees also didnt get players into game, 30v30 mode also didnt. 

 

They have television ads for the game. Most games do not. They might not be doing as effectively as they should but they are definitely doing something. New premiums and tech trees are more for older players or returning players than new players.

 

For newer players they should perhaps take another look at some of the worst performing lower tier tanks.



Yaccay #67 Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:23 AM

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View PostMiaMica, on 07 September 2017 - 05:34 PM, said:

like wow died 100 times and still alive

 

Rofl.

Plenty of servers were ceased to exist.

Blizzard does not (dare to...) present the subcribers number anymore.

WoW did not die, WoW is just the shadow of former itself.

 



ZlatanArKung #68 Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:29 AM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 07 September 2017 - 10:41 PM, said:

 

GS:GO, 5 years old so under 7.

DOTA 2, 4 years old, ditto

Overwatch, Hearthstone, both under 7.

 

I did not say 5+ I said 7+ and I asked how many are doing as well as they were, not whether they were dying. There are significantly older games than anything on your list that are still alive. However they do not have anywhere near as many players as in their prime.

 

WoW is the only 7+ year old game on your list but it has fewer players than it once had too. 

 

And LoL, both games which have more players then WoT. And LoL is doing just as good as ever, or better than ever. Despite being older then WoT.

WoT had its worst august in 3 years.

 

So older games than WoT do have more players than WoT.


Edited by ZlatanArKung, 08 September 2017 - 07:45 AM.


ZlatanArKung #69 Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:37 AM

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View PostYaccay, on 08 September 2017 - 07:23 AM, said:

 

Rofl.

Plenty of servers were ceased to exist.

Blizzard does not (dare to...) present the subcribers number anymore.

WoW did not die, WoW is just the shadow of former itself.

 

 

While WoW has lost numbers from its peak time  (wotlk), it still have more players then WOT as today (by every statistic I found for 2017) despite being 13 years old.



DracheimFlug #70 Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:47 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 08 September 2017 - 07:29 AM, said:

 

And LoL, both games which have more players then WoT.

 

So older games than WoT do have more players than WoT.

 

Yes, so? What is it with you and straw men in this thread? Yes there are games played more than WoT. No claims have been made otherwise. Poker is an older game than anything talked about in this thread and there are far more poker players in the world than WoT players... so?

Homer_J #71 Posted 08 September 2017 - 08:55 AM

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When the game went to release in spring 2011 I didn't expect it to last past summer.  6 years later and there is no sign of any real decline in numbers.

Hammerhead20 #72 Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:08 AM

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Yup. It's "dying". Can't agree more with this.

 

I remember those days when this game was "actually" fun and enjoyable.

 

But now...



DracheimFlug #73 Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:11 AM

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View PostHammerhead20, on 08 September 2017 - 09:08 AM, said:

Yup. It's "dying". Can't agree more with this.

 

I remember those days when this game was "actually" fun and enjoyable.

 

But now...

 

So if the game is only 'falsely" fun and enjoyable, why are you here, exactly?

ZlatanArKung #74 Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:12 AM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 08 September 2017 - 07:47 AM, said:

 

Yes, so? What is it with you and straw men in this thread? Yes there are games played more than WoT. No claims have been made otherwise. Poker is an older game than anything talked about in this thread and there are far more poker players in the world than WoT players... so?

 

Claiming that WoT (might) fail/die because of age is simply wrong.



DracheimFlug #75 Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:15 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 08 September 2017 - 09:12 AM, said:

 

Claiming that WoT (might) fail/die because of age is simply wrong.

 

Ah, you misunderstood. I was saying that the numbers can be expected to decline over time. That is not any more 'dying' than the comment earlier in the thread about life after puberty. My point was that even if there is a decline seen that is arguably normal but nevertheless not indicative of dying.

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Dying? so what, Who cares...

 

Only watch some QB`s videos now.



Hammerhead20 #77 Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:20 AM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 08 September 2017 - 11:11 AM, said:

 

So if the game is only 'falsely" fun and enjoyable, why are you here, exactly?

 

I'm just saying that this game was more fun and enjoyable than it is now...

 

Well, it's still can be fun and enjoyable, but what we have now?

 

Lot's of broken Premium tanks, Premium ammo spamming, "new" crap Matchmaking...


Edited by Hammerhead20, 08 September 2017 - 09:21 AM.


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ZlatanArKung #79 Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:59 AM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 08 September 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

 

Ah, you misunderstood. I was saying that the numbers can be expected to decline over time. That is not any more 'dying' than the comment earlier in the thread about life after puberty. My point was that even if there is a decline seen that is arguably normal but nevertheless not indicative of dying.

 

There is no reason for WoT to lose players based on its old age (other old games lost players because the modern software/hardware made the game unplayable without modding (and most players can't do this by themselves) or due to release of sequel/competitor, neither is the case for WoT). The only reason for WoT to lose players is due to gameplay changes and decisions made by developer.

 

August numbers are lowest in 3 years, and not a trend. Only in like December/january can we see if WoT is truly losing players over extended amount of time and could then call it a trend.

 

July was pretty equal to last year, or slightly less.



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 08 September 2017 - 09:59 AM, said:

 

There is no reason for WoT to lose players based on its old age (other old games lost players because the modern software/hardware made the game unplayable without modding (and most players can't do this by themselves) or due to release of sequel/competitor, neither is the case for WoT). The only reason for WoT to lose players is due to gameplay changes and decisions made by developer.

 

August numbers are lowest in 3 years, and not a trend. Only in like December/january can we see if WoT is truly losing players over extended amount of time and could then call it a trend.

 

July was pretty equal to last year, or slightly less.

 

Actually the usual reasons are stagnation and newer competitors, with the problem of legacy coding compounding the stagnation issue.

 

Past a certain point, player retention becomes more difficult as it becomes harder and harder to add new content that is truly new or different, and doing the same thing long enough gets boring over time, especially for those who have unlocked everything unlockable.

 

Recruiting and retaining new players is likewise tricky, since an older game is rarely seen as shiny as something brand new, and since even with player protection in a competitive game they are soon competing with more established players.

 

As for whether WoT is retaining or losing players overall, most servers seem to be doing ok, but NA certainly has been shrinking.






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