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japtank #1 Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:36 PM

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One team camps the hill (9), other team camps the castle (2, 3) and the map is as exciting as Province was.

That's the new meta at tier X and even agressive positions in the village don't change anything to it.

 

Just got another game (with 2 arties each side which of course didn't change anything since arty has never prevented camping) and it ended on a draw after 15 long boring minutes.



qpranger #2 Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:49 PM

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Yes, remove temporarily, say for 99 years.

Ceeb #3 Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:52 PM

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I like it.  

Wintermute_1 #4 Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:56 PM

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View PostCeeb, on 07 September 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:

I like it.

 

​Me too. Much better once you switch off assault mode.

250swb #5 Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:56 PM

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There are worse maps. I don't know why people complain about Erlenberg being a 'neutral' map when there are many maps that give a tactical advantage to one side.

Balc0ra #6 Posted 07 September 2017 - 09:59 PM

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Tho not the worst map as like Highway in terms of team balance class. As that can make people do stupid stuff. Like HT heavy vs TD heavy, and your HT's goes over to castle and gets raped instantly, as they don't send anything over, while your TD's camps hill waiting for nothing to come on the B line. Unlike Highway that just sends everything to town, inc mediums and TD's.

Pansenmann #7 Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:27 PM

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View Postjaptank, on 07 September 2017 - 09:36 PM, said:

One team camps the hill (9), other team camps the castle (2, 3) and the map is as exciting as Province was.

That's the new meta at tier X and even agressive positions in the village don't change anything to it.

 

Just got another game (with 2 arties each side which of course didn't change anything since arty has never prevented camping) and it ended on a draw after 15 long boring minutes.

 

View PostCeeb, on 07 September 2017 - 09:52 PM, said:

I like it.

 

I'd say - swap Sand River Assault with Murovanka Malinovka Assault.

Remove Stalingrad and bring back Severogorsk (first version) instead.

 

and have erlenberg spawn points moved (again)


Edited by Pansenmann, 07 September 2017 - 10:29 PM.


japtank #8 Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:43 PM

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The map IS balanced, that's not the problem.

It's a campfest, that's the problem.



laulaur #9 Posted 07 September 2017 - 10:52 PM

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View Postjaptank, on 07 September 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

The map IS balanced, that's not the problem.

It's a campfest, that's the problem.

 

Sure, remove it and add more maps like Paris and Pilsen.

Because 'special' people can play only brawling with heavy tanks, smashing his face into the enemy....

A game takes more than 4 minutes? It is a campfest!!! Bring more arty in game to remove the campers. Or just go play Counter-Strike if you like short things.



Sebenza #10 Posted 07 September 2017 - 11:01 PM

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I don't mind Erlenberg in any mode. It certainly isn't perfect, but there are plenty other maps that need a lot more work.

AvengerOrion #11 Posted 07 September 2017 - 11:18 PM

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I rather got Ensk removed from everything above tier 6.

gunslingerXXX #12 Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:06 AM

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View Postjaptank, on 07 September 2017 - 10:43 PM, said:

The map IS balanced, that's not the problem.

It's a campfest, that's the problem.

Yolo and next. Problem solved



SovietBias #13 Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:17 AM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 07 September 2017 - 08:56 PM, said:

 

​Me too. Much better once you switch off assault mode.

 

Erlenberg Assault is probably the best version of Erlenberg and one of the best Assault maps, IMO.

The_Georgian_One #14 Posted 08 September 2017 - 07:35 AM

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It's a very good map in assault, and very campy/meh in one of the standard modes. I would very much rather see Windstorm or Paris removed.

 

I always pity fools that cross the bridge alone, while typing 'noob team', just to die in 1st 30 seconds of the battle.


Edited by The_Georgian_One, 08 September 2017 - 07:36 AM.


Hedgehog1963 #15 Posted 08 September 2017 - 08:49 AM

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I like it.  It is the battlefield where you can get involved in some really long range gun duels, SPGs have definite value and good scouts can be the game maker or breaker.

arthurwellsley #16 Posted 08 September 2017 - 08:52 AM

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One of the better maps in assault as some of the above posters have mentioned.

 

Even in standard mode there are worse maps.

 

There is more of an argument that Mines and Ensk should be limited to tier VI or so than suspending Erlenberg.



The_Georgian_One #17 Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:15 AM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 08 September 2017 - 08:52 AM, said:

There is more of an argument that Mines and Ensk should be limited to tier VI or so than suspending Erlenberg.

 

I'd love to see this suggestion implemented.

Shivvering #18 Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:46 AM

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View Postjaptank, on 07 September 2017 - 09:36 PM, said:

One team camps the hill (9), other team camps the castle (2, 3) and the map is as exciting as Province was.

That's the new meta at tier X and even agressive positions in the village don't change anything to it.

 

Just got another game (with 2 arties each side which of course didn't change anything since arty has never prevented camping) and it ended on a draw after 15 long boring minutes.

 

Not had a draw on this map for ages.

 

It does seem to be the prime candidate for 15-5 results in my experience though.



Wintermute_1 #19 Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:15 AM

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View PostSovietBias, on 08 September 2017 - 07:17 AM, said:

 

Erlenberg Assault is probably the best version of Erlenberg and one of the best Assault maps, IMO.

 

Its unbelievably easy to defend as long as the defending team doesnt cross the river and uses the bridge as a choke point. But what happened 9 times out of 10, half the team would cross the bridge and camp C2 without pushing forward to spot the tanks slaughtering them from the small hill beside the castle. That happened so consistently that i couldnt stand defending on the map any longer and switched off assualt mode. Attacking on the map was fine, but for the same reason.

eldrak #20 Posted 08 September 2017 - 01:44 PM

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Good in assault, decent in encounter, bad in standard.




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