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Wulfix #1 Posted 09 September 2017 - 09:57 AM

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Currently its unplayable with 175 pen, problem to pen frontally IS3, T32, KV4, Defender and lot of other tanks that it fights very often. Even with gold its a problem. It should be like minimum 230 pen on standard AP shells. Would it be good to give this tank X tier mm and buff the penetration ? I personally think its a good idea and what about you guys ???

GalmTwo #2 Posted 09 September 2017 - 09:59 AM

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Just buy the Defender and sell the IS-6

Dava_117 #3 Posted 09 September 2017 - 10:21 AM

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If you can't go for 120mm weakspot on KV-4, I would say you should get good. Defenders also has 2 150mm cupolas that you should be able to pen. T-32 has 74mm MGport and a weak LFP. Sides are garbage too.

IS-3 may be the worst to face, but the 20mm turret top and engine deck are easy pen if you facehug and then flank.


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clixor #4 Posted 09 September 2017 - 10:28 AM

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View PostDava_117, on 09 September 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

If you can't go for 120mm weakspot on KV-4, I would say you should get good. Defenders also has 2 150mm cupolas that you should be able to pen. T-32 has 74mm MGport and a weak LFP. Sides are garbage too.

IS-3 may be the worst to face, but the 20mm turret top and engine deck are easy pen if you facehug and then flank.

 

Nice.. in theory.. but what about shooting the weakspots on tier9s... Even if you forget the jap heavies for a minute, good luck penning an e75, ST-I and the like.

Karasu_Hidesuke #5 Posted 09 September 2017 - 10:42 AM

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View PostGalmTwo, on 09 September 2017 - 08:59 AM, said:

Just buy the Defender and sell the IS-6

 

Where can we buy it?

 



Dava_117 #6 Posted 09 September 2017 - 10:51 AM

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View Postclixor, on 09 September 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

 

Nice.. in theory.. but what about shooting the weakspots on tier9s... Even if you forget the jap heavies for a minute, good luck penning an e75, ST-I and the like.

 

ST-I is an hard nut to crack, but the IS-3 tactic work as well on it. 

E75 is somehow easyer. Sides are just 80mm IIRC but from the front you should be able to shoot at the 40mm plate right above track. It's slightly inclined so you should be able to hit it even on even terrain. 



Tiger_Panzermeyer #7 Posted 09 September 2017 - 10:59 AM

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View PostWulfix, on 09 September 2017 - 09:57 AM, said:

Currently its unplayable with 175 pen, problem to pen frontally IS3, T32, KV4, Defender and lot of other tanks that it fights very often. Even with gold its a problem. It should be like minimum 230 pen on standard AP shells. Would it be good to give this tank X tier mm and buff the penetration ? I personally think its a good idea and what about you guys ???

 

Yeah buff its pen but cut the stalinium side armor that would balance it.

_Bundesheer_ #8 Posted 09 September 2017 - 11:10 AM

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Is that tank limited to tier 9?

Little_Cow #9 Posted 09 September 2017 - 11:22 AM

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View PostBrowarszky, on 09 September 2017 - 10:42 AM, said:

 

Where can we buy it?

 

I Think owners of the is6 and kv5 should get something to compensate for their months of irritation to see their tanks beeing unplayable for such a long time While they spent around 50 euro a tank. 



lord_chipmonk #10 Posted 09 September 2017 - 11:28 AM

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View PostLittle_Cow, on 09 September 2017 - 11:22 AM, said:

I Think owners of the is6 and kv5 should get something to compensate for their months of irritation to see their tanks beeing unplayable for such a long time While they spent around 50 euro a tank. 

 

I think such owners should get bugger all (myself included). 

shane73tank #11 Posted 09 September 2017 - 12:07 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 09 September 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

 

I think such owners should get bugger all (myself included). 

 

me too, also lets necro these threads after the buffs 

Edited by shane73tank, 09 September 2017 - 04:02 PM.


Obsessive_Compulsive #12 Posted 09 September 2017 - 12:17 PM

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What about when IS6 is top tier.... what does an m6 do? what does a comet do? even my FCM gets insulted vs IS6 since they buffed the roof... yeah.... its fine even if the MM dictates the performance more than other tanks.

Edited by Conor_Notorious_McGregor, 09 September 2017 - 12:17 PM.


leggasiini #13 Posted 09 September 2017 - 04:14 PM

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View PostConor_Notorious_McGregor, on 09 September 2017 - 01:17 PM, said:

what does an m6 do? 

Spam gold? 240mm APCR pen on tier 6 kekekekek :^)



Balc0ra #14 Posted 09 September 2017 - 05:25 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 09 September 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

  Defenders also has 2 150mm cupolas that you should be able to pen.

 

That dual weakspot on the roof is a not easy to go for at range with the IS-6, when you are trading across a grid with a 122mm.  Nor does the IS-6's 219mm pen do good when a Vk 100.01 comes along with it's 220mm weakspots... you have to shoot at an angle always as you are lower. Making it thicker for RNG to give you a good chance. IS-6 is not always bad vs most targets like a KV-4 or T32. But how often do you see a KV-4 or T32 vs the Jap Ht's, Defenders or the VK? As that's usually what pure tier 8 games is full of with the new MM. Not tanks I can easily pen like a KV-4.

 

 

That said.... IS-6 is on the buff list. WG did talk about it and the KV-5 during gamescom. Issue is that they are still not 100% sure what direction to go. Buff the gun massively, and remove the limited MM and offer a refund. Or give it small, but still significant AP pen, and kick the gold pen to 250 like the SP and WZ-111. And still keep the limited MM. 






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