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Gundolph #1 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:12 PM

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I see quite a lot of beginners in tier 8 premiums. I would like to suggest a +10.000 battles played requirement to play these in random battles. Or a WN8 of at least 500'ish, which ever comes first.

 

It's ruining the game when unexperienced players skip low tiers and roll out in a tier 8. I'm far from a unicum player, but I've played my fair share of shitty games in low tiers.

 

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ASAMTIGASHUKNO #2 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:15 PM

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And watch WG's profit make a plummet of a lifetime? Not gonna happen, sorreh.

MR_FIAT #3 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:23 PM

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no. 

Homer_J #4 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:27 PM

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View PostGundolph, on 10 September 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

I see quite a lot of beginners in tier 8 premiums. I would like to suggest a +10.000 battles played requirement to play these in random battles. 

 

I see plenty of beginners with 10k battles driving tier X tanks.

 

And a brilliant business strategy you have there.  With ideas like that you'll be a millionaire in no time.


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laulaur #5 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:29 PM

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And you had how many games when you bought your 48% 8,8 cm Pak 43 Jagdtiger? Most don't care how many games people have, as long as they have a normal tier 8 when they get it.

 

But if they had a 10K battle requirement for even a tier 8 premium, considering a majority of the people that buy a premium at tier 8, don't even have 5K games in 6 years. I suspect the income would be close to nothing for WG and the game would be dead 3 years ago. As not everyone has as many battles as you. 



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RamRaid90 #8 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:33 PM

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View Postlaulaur, on 10 September 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

 

 


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brisha #9 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:33 PM

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Great idea, I wonder why no one has thought of this before. OP write a ticket to WG, they will surely snap this great idea right up.

Blubba #10 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:33 PM

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I'd just like to point out that even at tier 10, there are some spectacularly poor players with some 47496 battles (at time of writing) so 10k battles for tier 8 is fairly meaningless.

zen_monk_ #11 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:43 PM

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View PostGundolph, on 10 September 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

I see quite a lot of beginners in tier 8 premiums. I would like to suggest a +10.000 battles played requirement to play these in random battles. Or a WN8 of at least 500'ish, which ever comes first.

 

And I would suggest you start a gaming company and cut yourself from a hefty income with such decisions.

 

View PostGundolph, on 10 September 2017 - 09:12 PM, said:

I'm far from a unicum player, but I've played my fair share of shitty games in low tiers.

 

...and you are doing it again on the Forum.


Edited by zen_monk_, 10 September 2017 - 10:46 PM.


Hedgehog1963 #12 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:46 PM

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View Postlaulaur, on 10 September 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

 

That's not even in Yoda speak!  Try this

 

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japtank #13 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:46 PM

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TBH, I'd like to see tier IX and X premiums, I don't see new players as the problem here.

More often than not, when looking somebody who's done something really stupid stats, they are not beginners; far from it.

 

So I think it's time for high tier premiums and read somewhere WG is considering it.

It's coming, for sure.



zen_monk_ #14 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:47 PM

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Same here, bring on Premium X already!

Mike_Mckay #15 Posted 10 September 2017 - 10:56 PM

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I have to be honest I cant get off the fence on this particular topic


Ignoring the business aspect of it, which for a revenue focused company rather than a player focused company having restrictions just doesn't make ANY sense at all, at least in the short term where there is an abundance of new players


On the one hand I think it would be reasonable to have someone have to play at least a few hundred games in the tier below that of any particular premium with the exception of say 5 and below which are more "learner" friendly


But on the other hand, low tier tanks on an account with zero crew skills don't really earn much silver on average, so often you have the next tank unlocked and with the speed upgrades get unlocked are often waiting for the silver to "trickle" in. So higher premiums don't only speed that up but also increase someones ability to get better equipment, cammo, reset skills and so on. All of which improve their game. So cutting off the stream of silver from higher tier premiums could actually make the performance of newer players worse rather than better as well as slowing down the acquisition of crew skills with the same effect


It is kind of odd how many people complain about low skilled players and how many are against skill matched games or ranked battles.


Personally I don't see it as a problem as long as each team has the same amount of low skilled players. Its only an issue when they are distributed disparately between the teams and become an actual handicap to the team with the most reds on it if the gap is quite noticeable


And I doubt anyone who complains about this is thinking of games where they had half a dozen tomatos die in the first two minutes BUT they won the game easily, the games I suspect are at the forefront of their mind with this particular gripe are games where they were on a team with 12 reds and the other team had maybe 5 and the other team won easily

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View Postjaptank, on 10 September 2017 - 10:46 PM, said:

TBH, I'd like to see tier IX and X premiums, I don't see new players as the problem here.

More often than not, when looking somebody who's done something really stupid stats, they are not beginners; far from it.

 

So I think it's time for high tier premiums and read somewhere WG is considering it.

It's coming, for sure.

 

The thing is that most players don't like the idea that you can buy your way to tier X instantly. So I suspect if they did suddenly announce upcoming tier X premiums for sale. I suspect the backlash would be bigger then even the SP nerf. And if they did sell them vs what a tier 8 premium costs. They should be €69 at least for a tier X. And would premium income be a good idea for a tier X premium? That would really kick up more dust then I suspect WG is ready for. Considering how many CW tanks and PM tanks on tier 9/X that don't have it.

Gundolph #17 Posted 10 September 2017 - 11:42 PM

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The fact that it is unlikely from a profit point of view does not make it an unreasonable request. I view it from a player perspective.

 

I don't recall my stats when I bought my jt 8,8, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't red at the time. Please reply to the point, that I request a certain amount of experience before rolling out in high tier vehicles.



Jigabachi #18 Posted 10 September 2017 - 11:51 PM

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Hint: Not everyone wants to or can play the game for 4+ hours every single day, so that 10k requirement isn't only utopic, it's just horribly stupid. And I say that as someone who thinks that the availability of hightier premtanks to EVERYONE is one of the biggest roots of evil in the game.

 

Long story short: Nothing will change there as every useful change would cut into WG's income. But I'd still love to see a change, so that you can only buy those tanks if you grinded up to that tier before.



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View PostGundolph, on 10 September 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

I see quite a lot of beginners in tier 8 premiums. I would like to suggest a +10.000 battles played requirement to play these in random battles. Or a WN8 of at least 500'ish, which ever comes first.

 

It's ruining the game when unexperienced players skip low tiers and roll out in a tier 8. I'm far from a unicum player, but I've played my fair share of shitty games in low tiers.

 

Regards

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It's ruining the game when inexperienced players skip learning the game and rush to high tiers. You're far from a unicum and you've played your fair share of shitty games at high tiers.

 

I'd like to suggest a minimum WR requirement of 52% to unlock the ability to play high tiers tanks. Or a WN8 of at least 1500ish, whichever comes first.

 

Regards.



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I don't think we should have tier 10 premiums though tbh (well, any MORE tier 10 premiums lol), One of the things that I think is good about WG and what to some extent heads off the pay to play ethos is that you cant strictly speaking buy your way above tier 8,


To get the last two tiers you have to actually either play through the requirements in that line or build up a hell of a lot of free XP playing other lines. I think tier 8 is more than high enough for a premium and because its the highest tier that can have +/-2 MM is the highest tier for people to really learn in




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