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Baldrickk #1 Posted 14 September 2017 - 12:05 AM

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I mean, they add weakspots to the Type 5

 

 

Yep.  WG are the best.



_EXODUZ_ #2 Posted 14 September 2017 - 01:19 AM

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Old news...

Baldrickk #3 Posted 14 September 2017 - 02:17 AM

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 14 September 2017 - 01:19 AM, said:

Old news...

I know.  But there is a reason I'm posting this. 

 

(I'm pretty annoyed) 



Jigabachi #4 Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:01 AM

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C'mon...
I can clearly see two huge green spots there.

The_Georgian_One #5 Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:03 AM

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I'm of the opinion that Japanese heavies from tier 6 are one of the most retarded add-ons to this game.

I hated O-i when I played tier 6 often, now I hate tier 8-10 whilst grinding Conqueror. And I hate them with passion.

Surely someone in WG wanted to give total noobs easy-to-use toys...no need to aim, no need to angle...

Whereas I need to aim (AND load gold) and stay hull-down in Conq and am still getting derped for 500 + module damage.

Edited. line of tanks.

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NervosCuNervii #6 Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:09 AM

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Remove the derp guns from them and they won't be so hated anymore.
One of the reasons I hate them is that they're unfair to deal with. They have strong armor, peak a little and blast you for 400 with the derp guns and take out some modules and crew members, while you have to aim carefully even with premium rounds and shoot at a flat plate.

The whole line is easy mode and reaching the tier 10 felt like a walk in the park.

tumppi776 #7 Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:19 AM

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Yeah facing a Maus with T54E1. fun times.

TungstenHitman #8 Posted 14 September 2017 - 08:50 AM

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So you got sexually assaulted by a Type5 and now we have to hear about it.. there there, he's gone now, everything is going to be ALL right.

Condono #9 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:07 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 14 September 2017 - 07:01 AM, said:

C'mon...
I can clearly see two huge green spots there.

 



Baldrickk #10 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:11 AM

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View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 14 September 2017 - 08:03 AM, said:

I'm of the opinion that Japanese heavies from tier 6 are one of the most retarded add-ons to this game.

I hated O-i when I played tier 6 often, now I hate tier 8-10 whilst grinding Conqueror. And I hate them with passion.

Surely someone in WG wanted to give total noobs easy-to-use toys...no need to aim, no need to angle...

Whereas I need to aim (AND load gold) and stay hull-down in Conq and am still getting derped for 500 + module damage.

Edited. line of tanks.

This man gets it, and was driving the same tank as me to boot.

 

Derp guns. Fine

Heavy armour (maybe not quite that heavy, should stand a reasonable chance of penning weakspots) Fine

Fantasy tank. Fine-ish imho should only be used to fill a hole where no existing tank fits. Not a whole (hole?) line based around them*

 

All together? Urgh Urgh Urgh 

 

*I am aware that theu built an O-I. I'm also aware that they scrapped it because it a) tore up the concrete it was moving on and b) sunk about 1m into the ground as soon as it left said concrete

I am also aware of the turret/emplacement photo. But if that's all they are basing these things on they can damn well give them at least one proper weakspots, and give me a tank with that cannon from the Overlord map.

Come on WG. You know you want to. 


Edited by Baldrickk, 14 September 2017 - 10:22 AM.


Baldrickk #11 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:13 AM

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I did have a game on Westfield where I was able to get above a type 4.
Oh it felt so nice actually being able to pen the cupola of a same tier, same class tank with my standard rounds for once.

uglycousin #12 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:15 AM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 14 September 2017 - 11:13 AM, said:

I did have a game on Westfield where I was able to get above a type 4.
Oh it felt so nice actually being able to pen the cupola of a same tier, same class tank with my standard rounds for once.

 

Conqueror in a hulldown position is godlike. :) And the armor on Type 4 is not as good as on the Type 5.

 

 



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Adding "weakspots" which still have more armour than most T10's have penetration on standard AP(CR).

 

Wargaming: Da da comrade (tm )

 

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leggasiini #14 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:23 AM

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Yes, I have been penned by standards round 3 times in my total 40 post-9.20 battles. I am pissed that WG totally ruined its armor, I block only 3,2k damage on average! :angry:

 

Jokes aside, Im okay if they completely remove the derp but as trade-off I want the 14cm actually be viable instead of being a junk cannon. Give it bit better penetration ( 259 / 302 ) and slightly (less than 10% tho) more DPM and its good enough. Hell, even pen buff alone would help alot.

 

Another problem is the armor. If Type 5 with 14cm fights armored HT (in this case E 100), in this situation neither fires gold, its unfair for the E 100, because E 100 has no hope of penning Type 5 with AP; while Type 5 also struggles if E100's LFP is not exposed, it can still pen the LFP.  If in return both of them load gold, its unfair for Type 5, because it still struggles to pen E100's turret face with gold AP (only 50/50 when unangled at 100m range), while E100 can just blast through its armor with HEAT. Thats why the armor layout needs to be reworked so that Type 5 is bit more gold proof when angled properly on a perfect position, while it can be penned with AP if its weakspots are exposed.

 

Rework the hull so that it no longer has hull cheeks and the lower front is divided into LFP and UFP, former being a weakspot (something like E100's LFP, maybe marginally stronger or more angled so its stronger when angled than E100's LFP).


Edited by leggasiini, 14 September 2017 - 09:32 AM.


The_Georgian_One #15 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:25 AM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 14 September 2017 - 08:50 AM, said:

So you got sexually assaulted by a Type5 and now we have to hear about it.. there there, he's gone now, everything is going to be ALL right.

 

Another Japanese heavy player, I see, I see.

 

It's not that I cannot outplay someone in this tank. I do it frequently, cause they would often just drive in the open and get wrecked like a sitting duck, that's just the things they do...but it doesn't make playing against these tanks less frustrating.

 

It's like we're playing the same game, just the difficulty slider is up for me and down for them.


Edited by The_Georgian_One, 14 September 2017 - 09:25 AM.


uglycousin #16 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:27 AM

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Here is a screen capture of a Jap heavy being top tier.



ZlatanArKung #17 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:29 AM

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Jap heavy line should be removed.
Then they can remake it for a year.
And then release a god version of it.

leggasiini #18 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:35 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 14 September 2017 - 10:29 AM, said:

Jap heavy line should be removed.
Then they can remake it for a year.
And then release a god version of it.

 

No need to completely remove it and bring it back as reworked, when you can just rework it straight away. They didnt remove lights or arties when they reworked the branches into tier 10. Besides they never have fully removed a tank from the game (they always have replaced it with something), and it would cause alot of problems.

 

Reworking the branch is less complicated than it seems. All they need to do is to bump few tanks up a tier (O-Is), add 1 new one at tier 5, and rework armor layout and guns of tier 8-10. My proposal probably makes it look more complicated than it actually is but technically the changes are not really more complicated than the LT or arty reworks.


Edited by leggasiini, 14 September 2017 - 09:36 AM.


Hammerhead20 #19 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:39 AM

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This only proves that this game has become a joke.

 

All hail the "mighty" WG...



uglycousin #20 Posted 14 September 2017 - 09:43 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 14 September 2017 - 11:29 AM, said:

Jap heavy line should be removed.
Then they can remake it for a year.
And then release a god version of it.

 

So, you want a even better version of the jap heavies? :D






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