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TungstenHitman #1 Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:25 PM

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Hey guys,

 

Which offence bothers you more in a random teammate, those that charge straight off and get cremated almost instantly or those that immediately drive to the redline and also go in behind cover where they can neither see or shoot anything for the entire battle?

 

I mention the term "badly" here because imo its possible to yolo skillfully and actually cause mayhem affectively winning the battle in doing so never allowing the other team to get comfortable or even leave their area. I apply the same to camping, I have no problem with a player camping if they're good at it by getting into locations where they are covering teammates at the front lines and doing lots of damage and kills.. these are examples of good yoloing and camping.

 

No what I refer to is the very bad kind, but which do you prefer or which annoys you more? On one hand, an early yolo noob can briefly expose the enemy movements allowing the more experienced players to react and move to suitable locations. On the other hand, a really negative, redline camping noob is still an extra tank for the enemy team to consider and may actually come into play later on in a really close battle, so at least he is alive and perhaps a winning factor vs the yolo noob who died and made the battle 14vs15 in 10 seconds.. what you guys think is worse? 

 

Edit- I won't refer to a tank class here because I've seen plenty of both from all classes (yes including a yoloing arty charge up the middle lol!! what a sight to behold!)


Edited by TungstenHitman, 14 September 2017 - 03:42 PM.


The_Georgian_One #2 Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:27 PM

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Both are equally bad, but I prefer yoloing over idle and useless tomatoes*. At least they try to do something.


 

*unless it's the only scout my team has on Prokhorovka.



Derethim #3 Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:32 PM

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Bad camping is more prevalent. People are afraid to hurt their stats and so they sit back and wait for death.

Dava_117 #4 Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:34 PM

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I prefere a yolo than a caper. At least he may spot some enemy to shoot at. A camper won't do any thing...

Edited by Dava_117, 14 September 2017 - 03:35 PM.


hajoittaja #5 Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:35 PM

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Yoloing (dying early )is far worse. The longer your team stays alive the more time you have to affect the outcome and deal dmg. Nothing is more frustrating than playing slow heavy and arriving to battle when half of your team is already dead.

ZlatanArKung #6 Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:36 PM

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The Yolo guys is doing way better.

The camper sits in a bad bush, misses his shots and then blames scouts on his team in chat before team killing them.

Lycopersicon #7 Posted 14 September 2017 - 03:50 PM

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Camping is worse. The camper usually only sees an enemy when the game is already lost, but the yolo'er is likely to spot or distract enemies enough to be of some help. That said, I am not really annoyed by either. People play the game the way they choose to.

jack_timber #8 Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:10 PM

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For myself it's somebody yoloing before anyone has time to get into position.

If only they could wait for 10 seconds or so I could get my TD settled in behind a nice bush, put kettle on, erect the tent....:)

But seriously kinda grates when a heavy camps, the action is happening some 400m + away and he says he's spotting:(

But as far as camping... If I am a T8 TD in a T10 match up guess what I do..

All depends on the MM



Homer_J #9 Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:15 PM

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The ones who spend the entire battle complaining about how someone else plays a computer game.

PhooBar #10 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:03 PM

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Camping sux, but a good YOLO can at least be entertaining to watch.

Obsessive_Compulsive #11 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:10 PM

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On the new 30v 30 map at tier 10 yolo is most certainly worse because 30 guns insta-gib

Dundato #12 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:24 PM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 14 September 2017 - 02:25 PM, said:

Hey guys,

 

Which offence bothers you more in a random teammate, those that charge straight off and get cremated almost instantly or those that immediately drive to the redline and also go in behind cover where they can neither see or shoot anything for the entire battle?

 

Can you explain how it is a offence pls



ortega456 #13 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:39 PM

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Personally I prefer the yoloers. It's fun to watch, it's good for me to get enemy positions and some free shots however I think for the sake of winning a game campers are better. They still have lots of HP, mostly take difficult to attack positions and can do considerable amounts of damage. If you use your zombie-campers wisely and survive up to the point where the enemy reaches them you can use them as spotters and HP pinatas in order to get more damage and even turn the game.

 

Though I hate campers much much much more than yoloers.



Aikl #14 Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:01 PM

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Would the game be worse with primarily camping or yoloing players?

 

I think you know the answer as well - that tank sitting in the base at full HP with the clock ticking to 15 mins is far more annoying than some autoloader going so gung-ho you can almost hear him playing Initial D's Deja Vu. Kind of sucks to get killed by them, but most of the time they get blasted to bits before they manage to cripple you that badly.


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_Anarchistic_ #15 Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:18 PM

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camping

 

at least when players Yolo they are trying to play the game and might learn something that improves their game in future, for example they might stumble into a great hull down position they did not know about before

 

camping players never learn these things and if they have a good game get their camping re inforced and this is generally a negative proposal



_Anarchistic_ #16 Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:19 PM

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View PostConor_Notorious_McGregor, on 14 September 2017 - 05:10 PM, said:

On the new 30v 30 map at tier 10 yolo is most certainly worse because 30 guns insta-gib

 

View PostConor_Notorious_McGregor, on 14 September 2017 - 05:10 PM, said:

On the new 30v 30 map at tier 10 yolo is most certainly worse because 30 guns insta-gib

 

at tier 10 I would hope players have leant something by now !!

_Anarchistic_ #17 Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:20 PM

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View Posthajoittaja, on 14 September 2017 - 03:35 PM, said:

Yoloing (dying early )is far worse. The longer your team stays alive the more time you have to affect the outcome and deal dmg. Nothing is more frustrating than playing slow heavy and arriving to battle when half of your team is already dead.

 

View Posthajoittaja, on 14 September 2017 - 03:35 PM, said:

Yoloing (dying early )is far worse. The longer your team stays alive the more time you have to affect the outcome and deal dmg. Nothing is more frustrating than playing slow heavy and arriving to battle when half of your team is already dead.

 

are you distinguishing between camping and sniping?

 

for me camping is siting in a spot where you gun is not any use, sniping you are doing damage



Dundato #18 Posted 14 September 2017 - 07:27 PM

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camping is da best

 



Baldrickk #19 Posted 14 September 2017 - 10:05 PM

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Yolo is worse.

If they Yolo and die, your team is down a player.
If they camp the red line, you are also a player down, but they are still there to spot scout runs and are another enemy that the opposing team still needs to kill, and especially if they haven't been spotted, the enemy has to deal with the potential that theu are there and despite any stats are still capable of potentially doing spotting and damage.

Tldr of half the team camps, you still have a team.
Of half your team yolos you are now outnumbered 2:1 and the enemy know it

TungstenHitman #20 Posted 15 September 2017 - 11:57 AM

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View Post_Anarchistic_, on 14 September 2017 - 06:19 PM, said:

 

 

at tier 10 I would hope players have leant something by now !!

 

You would think so but no

View PostBaldrickk, on 14 September 2017 - 09:05 PM, said:

Yolo is worse.

If they Yolo and die, your team is down a player.
If they camp the red line, you are also a player down, but they are still there to spot scout runs and are another enemy that the opposing team still needs to kill, and especially if they haven't been spotted, the enemy has to deal with the potential that theu are there and despite any stats are still capable of potentially doing spotting and damage.

Tldr of half the team camps, you still have a team.
Of half your team yolos you are now outnumbered 2:1 and the enemy know it

 

I tend to agree. As much as it's disappointing seeing a teammate immediately hide behind a rock and take up a position he can neither see nor shoot anything from, effectively reducing the team to 14.. they can actually be the winning of a really tight battle. There has been plenty of times where both teams are all dead and its 1 enemy player on 8% hp vs a 100% hp camping o-ni that finally decides to come out and play.. and just by the hp difference and sheer ability to soak up shot after shot without and last they eventually get that one luckers shot to win whereas the bad yoloer is dead and gone.. as mentioned above by another player, if the yoloer that immediately races off and gets killed ONLY waited for a little longer before doing that, like until the teams slower tanks are in positions to shoot what he spots, that suicide run would be so SO much more useful and might actually be enough to start a massacre and easy win






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