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Community #1 Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:36 PM

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A detailed overview of balance changes to British and American Tech Trees, Tier X LTs and the legendary Type 59.

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savijem #2 Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:43 PM

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20 shells for FV4005. Nice!

Zeebad #3 Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:59 PM

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Is it me or the way this is written? I'm confused as to what happens to my T71

 

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 The T71 gets renamed “T71 DA”

 

This suggests my T71 becomes the DA complete with autoloader. But:
 

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 Please keep in mind that the XP you earned on the T71 DA gets transferred to the T71 CMCD 

 

Seems to contradict it.

Could someone who knows clarify this please?



fighting_falcon93 #4 Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:59 PM

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It would be nice if you could give the Super Conqueror a bit more gun depression, 7 degrees isn't a lot to work with, especially in British standards.

Also please say that the Super Conqueror doesn't have one of those stupid (penetrateble) cupolas on top?


Edited by fighting_falcon93, 14 September 2017 - 05:00 PM.


5everin #5 Posted 14 September 2017 - 04:59 PM

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 If you look at French light tanks, scouting for the AMX 13 105 is no less important than damage dealing. We raised its alpha to stress this attribute and single out its firepower among the five Tier X LTs.

 

wouldn't :

 If you look at French light tanks, damage dealing for the AMX 13 105is no less important than scouting. We raised its alpha to stress this attribute and single out its firepower among the five Tier X LTs.

 

Get the meaning across better?

 

Also as its not mentioned here does the Caern really get 2.9k dpm or was that an error previously?



lordfwahfnah #6 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:00 PM

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So what happens to the people that own the T71 and M41 Bulldog?

currently i'm grinding the Bulldog to get the T54E1. But after the update, i won't be able to get there anymore.

Do i need to start all over again from the T71 to the T69 to the T54E1? This would cost a huge amount of time again.



Autotragisk #7 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:03 PM

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Oh buff to the 59-Patton, lovely!

Cobra6 #8 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:06 PM

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Some points on this news that are of importance:

 

- So the best T10 light tank that is already the hardest to hit and the fastest to get to any spotting location *and* has the best camo *and* has the best armour, is getting a DPM buff? Well done Wargaming, T-100 is fine as it is actually, of all the light tanks it's least in needing of a buff, certainly not to it's firepower.

 

- As for T71, make sure you add the option to switch lines at these tanks, both of them have exactly the same chassis so you should be able to switch branch both  ways on this tier for a lower XP cost.

 

- Both the Sheridan and the T49 should get a big buff to the dispersion of turning the turret with the 152mm gun, that is the biggest downside to both vehicles. Stop crippling these guns that have an *effective* DPM of 900 (not theoretical magical numbers of 2000+) with absolutely terrible dispersion when rotating the turret.

 

- Type59, dear god just give it mobility more than anything, it's so sluggish compared to all other T8 mediums.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 14 September 2017 - 05:21 PM.


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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 14 September 2017 - 05:59 PM, said:

Also please say that the Super Conqueror doesn't have one of those stupid (penetrateble) cupolas on top?

It seems to be similar to the Conqueror cupola, expect some of it seems to be covered with spaced armor (the rangefinder, doubtful it will act as a weakspot), so it should be very unreliable target to penetrate, if not pennable at all (penning conqueror/215b cupola is nightmare tbh).



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View Postlordfwahfnah, on 14 September 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

So what happens to the people that own the T71 and M41 Bulldog?

currently i'm grinding the Bulldog to get the T54E1. But after the update, i won't be able to get there anymore.

Do i need to start all over again from the T71 to the T69 to the T54E1? This would cost a huge amount of time again.

 

THIS ^^^^

 

I'm on the Bulldog and I'm after the T57 Heavy, but unless I dump a crap-ton of free XP on the T54E1 I'll have to go back to the Tier 4, M5 Stuart and grind the M7 ... great.



Dexatroph #11 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:24 PM

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Re-enter the Type 59

You’ve most definitely heard of it, many must have seen it in action, and the lucky few have this exceptional tank as the centerpiece of their collection. It’s in for a shot of adrenaline in 9.20.1, and you won’t want to miss it.

 

Sounds like the Type 59 will find its way into the shop for a few days? 



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KV-5 and IS-6? Anyone? Stronk pen!

Thuis001 #13 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:28 PM

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Buffs to the British Heavies are nice and much needed, yet still. Before you get to the Caerarvorn you need to grind through three pieces of *Edited, that are slow, lack pen and have alpha that you could expect on a med or light. On top of that their armor gets completely outclassed by the Japanese tier V-VII that are FASTER yet have better armor and are better heavies in general. I fear that not buffing the tier V-VII will just mean that still noone will start playing that line since you need to get what, about 150k-200k of xp on crap tanks.

Edited by Nohe21, 15 September 2017 - 02:38 PM.
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View PostCobra6, on 14 September 2017 - 05:06 PM, said:

- Type59, dear god just give it mobility more than anything, it's so sluggish compared to all other T8 mediums.

 

 

 

Well, I'm fine with the better gun handling, but I hoped for some more shells and a small accuracy buff. So far we don't have details about the gunhandling buff, maybe they changed it after the last supertest as they did chage the FV4202 and don't give it a better upper front hull. 



Duvelske #15 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:39 PM

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any eta of the release of this update? Does there come a supertest in between?

Taudlitz #16 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:40 PM

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T28 should look like this

Darkrenown #17 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:44 PM

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You need to find who on the dev team thinks that they made the UK heavies "well-armored multipurpose heavy tank " and fire them ASAP. *Edited The armour on them is a joke, ironically until you get to the T10 which gets called "paper" in the article which at least has some decent spots and can side scrape to a degree.

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View PostGodhard, on 14 September 2017 - 05:25 PM, said:

KV-5 and IS-6? Anyone? Stronk pen!

 

Yes!! Also WZ-111 and 112 need penetration buff to be competitive against Lowe, Defender, Patriot and Chrysler 



TheBrownsound #19 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:45 PM

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I dont understan why its a problem to buff the pen on the is6s and 112s gun too?

Luukd3 #20 Posted 14 September 2017 - 05:48 PM

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The text on T71 is imo extremely confusing. Which T71 do we get in the end. The new with the autoloader of the other? Or do we get both tanks??

What'shappens to T37 that finds itself in a non-autoloading tree? Does it loose its autoloader?

 

Seems like another big change to a light line as after the earthquake to lights with intro of T10

 

Please clarify ....






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