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sp 1 c needs a buff right?

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Poll: sp 1 c needs a buff right? (35 members have cast votes)

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should sp 1 c get a buff?

  1. yes (29 votes [82.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.86%

  2. no (6 votes [17.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.14%

should it get its autoloader back?

  1. yes (26 votes [74.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 74.29%

  2. no (9 votes [25.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.71%

should it get higher top speed

  1. yes (24 votes [68.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 68.57%

  2. no (11 votes [31.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.43%

should it get better armour?

  1. yes (4 votes [11.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.43%

  2. no (31 votes [88.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 88.57%

should it get better camo values?

  1. yes (25 votes [71.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

  2. no (10 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

if you could pick 2 things to buff; which 2 things would it be

  1. autoloader back (24 votes [38.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 38.71%

  2. better speed (18 votes [29.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.03%

  3. better armour (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. better camo values (20 votes [32.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.26%

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syoyoi #1 Posted 14 September 2017 - 06:52 PM


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I think that sp 1 c needs a buff, what do you think?

Erwin_Von_Braun #2 Posted 14 November 2017 - 11:42 PM

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Can't stand this thing - it's the only German LT that I have sold.

Would give it another try if it got some love tho.

shortfuse1418 #3 Posted 27 November 2017 - 04:48 PM


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I am with you. A speed buff and small ROF buff would start to make this vehicle more competitive. It is a good scout in. The right circumstance but you cannot play aggressively in it unlike the US and Fr autoloaders.

FluffyRedFox #4 Posted 10 April 2018 - 07:07 PM


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Grinding through this thing now, what a complete piece of garbage.

The 390 base view range is nice, until you realise that the DA, CMCD and the 13 57 get the same view range while being much, much better vehicles. The SPiC on the other hand?


-The mobility is rather crap for a light. Its quite sluggish, accelerates slower than it should do and has its max speed capped at 58km/h, the slowest for the tier 7 lights. This, for a platform that has at best 20mm of armour and is overmatched by everything it sees, bar the 3cm flak gun Leo. Compared to other tier 7 lights, it has much worse terrain resitances and power/weight.

-The gun is one of the worst guns I've ever had the displeasure of using. For starters, 630m/s shell velocity with standard AP. W-w-why?! Combine this with poor gun handling and soft stats, with the worse overall soft stats compared to other same tier scouts, and its a terribly derpy gun. If that wasn't bad enough, it gets 1,468 base dpm, and again, the lowest amongst tier 7 lights. Meanwhile, tier 6 mediums with the 88mm get around 300-400 more base dpm. Standard and HEAT pen is nice, but the guns unreliability severely dampens this advantage. 

- -10* gun depression is one of the few redeeming features, and even then its not as good as it sounds due to the turret placement. You can get around this a bit by reversing up to positions you want to "hull down" in which is what I've been doing, but it just adds to the clunkiness of this tank.

They should at the very least return the autoloader, as then the low DPM would be quite understandable, and give it a small p/w ratio buff so that it can out-accelerate mediums more easily. 

Renesco #5 Posted 10 May 2018 - 07:25 PM

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I never played it while it had its autoloader but I'm loving it now. It was pretty shaky for me until I got the hang of it but that gun is a real whomper when you get in behind someone and seems to have decent accuracy while firing on the move.

Gremlin182 #6 Posted 10 May 2018 - 08:11 PM


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Not that bothered about the autoloader or armour.

It definitely needs speed and  Camo rating is always welcome.


Shell velocity is a bit low you cannot reasonably expect light tanks to brawl except under special circumstances and usually in the end game.

Messing with gun accuracy so they cannot easily snipe tends to push them into being just spotters for most of the game slow shell velocity just makes it worse.


Stopped playing it now the crew sits in the M41 90 so I can train up a decent second crew for the line





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