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_EXODUZ_ #1 Posted 20 September 2017 - 12:13 PM

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So is it a buff or a nerf?



xx984 #2 Posted 20 September 2017 - 12:16 PM

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i dont care its sexy. ive waited too long for this HD model 

Shaade_Silentpaw #3 Posted 20 September 2017 - 12:18 PM

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The tarp.

The mantlet tarp is a nerf.

 

To sexiness... 

 

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Dava_117 #4 Posted 20 September 2017 - 12:28 PM

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Well, looks like a general buff. It miss the old 210mm mantlet top but the turret main armour increased. Looks good to me!

 

BTW, where did you get this image? I would like to check KV-4 HD model too...


Edited by Dava_117, 20 September 2017 - 12:44 PM.


_EXODUZ_ #5 Posted 20 September 2017 - 12:34 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 20 September 2017 - 12:28 PM, said:

Well, looks like a general buff. It miss the old 210mm mantlet top but the turret msin armour increased. Looks good to me!

 

BTW, where did you get this image? I would like to check KV-4 HD model too...

 

KV4 has been buffed.

 

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Dava_117 #6 Posted 20 September 2017 - 12:43 PM

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 20 September 2017 - 12:34 PM, said:

 

KV4 has been buffed.

 

Spoiler

 

Pretty much what I expected. Thank you for allowing my OT.


Edited by Dava_117, 20 September 2017 - 12:43 PM.


tajj7 #7 Posted 20 September 2017 - 12:43 PM

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Looks like you it will be less easy to pen the gun mantlet and the turret front now, the rest was auto-bounce anyway so doesn't really matter. 

CaptainThunderWalker #8 Posted 20 September 2017 - 12:48 PM

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So, if a halfway competent KV-4 ever gets top tier on a city map in +2/-2 it's pretty much an auto-win for the team if the opposing tanks can't match it? It's not like most Tier VI-VII TDs can reliably pen it, leaving only Tier VIII TDs to go and face it.

It is rare, but it is already quite close to that being the case currently and the removal of weakspots makes it even worse. GG Wargaming.

 

With so few top tier tanks in a top tier game, it is much rarer for a player to be top tier but when they are top tier they are much more influental and being invincible to most of the opposition is just silly. I can imagine a KV-4 driver in a good matchup on Himmelsdorf just sit in a corner, wait until his team dies and then farm everything. Of course it can be penned by a bunch of TDs with gold, just make sure to focus those first or ask your team to yolo them. :trollface:

 

 

STB-1 is a nice buff, but I don't know if it changes that much. I'll wait until I see the Tanks.gg model to see the effective thickness.

 

Also, turret top and sides nerf? Now it can be overmatched which is awkward.


Edited by CaptainThunderWalker, 20 September 2017 - 12:52 PM.


The_Georgian_One #9 Posted 20 September 2017 - 12:53 PM

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I actually think mantlet gets buffed. The turret gets nerfed though, at least when you are getting shot from the side. Also if a HE shell lands on a the turret...

 

EDIT: KV4 change is a prime example of WG's 'learning weakspots is for idiots' policy.


Edited by The_Georgian_One, 20 September 2017 - 12:55 PM.


tajj7 #10 Posted 20 September 2017 - 01:01 PM

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View PostCaptainThunderWalker, on 20 September 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

So, if a halfway competent KV-4 ever gets top tier on a city map in +2/-2 it's pretty much an auto-win for the team if the opposing tanks can't match it? It's not like most Tier VI-VII TDs can reliably pen it, leaving only Tier VIII TDs to go and face it.

It is rare, but it is already quite close to that being the case currently and the removal of weakspots makes it even worse. GG Wargaming.

 

 

Large portions of it are 180 - 190 effective, most tier 6 heavies have enough premium penetration to go through that and many tier 7 heavies have enough standard penetration to go through that. I'm not seeing the issue really. 

 

View PostThe_Georgian_One, on 20 September 2017 - 11:53 AM, said:

 

EDIT: KV4 change is a prime example of WG's 'learning weakspots is for idiots' policy.

 

They've done more than the KV-4, seems these weakspots are being wiped out for most tanks. Not a major issue for stuff like the T-150, KV-4, M6 etc. because their flat plates are still reliably penned by same tier tanks with standard ammo but still. 



Cobra6 #11 Posted 20 September 2017 - 01:12 PM

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STB-1 needs gun handling buff, not an armour buff. Its unforgivable that Russian meds with the same DPM have infinitely better gun handling for 80 less alpha per shot.

 

You don't need armour if you can poke a ridge, shoot and pull back before the enemy can react. Now the STB-1 gets some more frontal armour but it still has to sit in the open like a lemon to make sure the shot hits because of the god awful dispersion values.

 

Also, less armour on the side/rear/top, enjoy being perma-stunned by arty if they land in the same postcode and being overmatched suddenly!

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 20 September 2017 - 01:16 PM.


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World of bland tanks incoming?

Hammerhead20 #13 Posted 20 September 2017 - 02:10 PM

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For me, STB-1 is one of the best looking tanks in the whole game.

 

I don't understand why Type 61 didn't received "HD" model along with STB-1...



Dava_117 #14 Posted 20 September 2017 - 02:13 PM

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View PostHammerhead20, on 20 September 2017 - 02:10 PM, said:

For me, STB-1 is one of the best looking tanks in the whole game.

 

I don't understand why Type 61 didn't received "HD" model along with STB-1...

 

for the same reason ST-I didn't get HD along IS-4. 

A generical reason we will never discover.:teethhappy:






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