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Liviguy #1 Posted 21 September 2017 - 01:43 AM

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Has a Soviet tank ever been put out of action from a shot through the turret. I'm getting sick of  only being able to pen tanks in the lower plate or from the side. I spend the whole game aiming down at the frickin ground, WG this is a tank game , why can't I shoot a tank in the turret and expect the shot to have some effect. It is getting very boring WG, very boring indeed.

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Exozen #2 Posted 21 September 2017 - 01:56 AM

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Only one that is 99.9% immune is the IS-7 turret , ST-I can also be a [edited]but its possible. IS-4 , IS-3 and lower can all be overmatched on the turret roof and the lower tier such as the IS has cupolas.

Derethim #3 Posted 21 September 2017 - 02:02 AM

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Look up the weakspots and you'll see some Russian turrets are actually quite vulenrable.

Liviguy #4 Posted 21 September 2017 - 02:06 AM

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I think the turret armour in this game is a joke in many cases, and it makes for boring predictable gameplay. Tank with super dooper turret armour can shoot you anywhere it pleases, you have to try and find a tiny weakspot on the turret or try and shoot its lower plate. I wanted to play a tank game where i can put shells into enemy turrets, not spend the whole time aiming down at the ground.

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NUKLEAR_SLUG #5 Posted 21 September 2017 - 02:08 AM

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So you just want to be able to point, fire and damage tanks?

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View PostLiviguy, on 21 September 2017 - 02:06 AM, said:

I think the turret armour in this game is a joke in many cases, and it makes for boring predictable gameplay. Tank with super dooper turret armour can shoot you anywhere it pleases, you have to try and find a tiny weakspot on the turret or try and shoot its lower plate. I wanted to play a tank game where i can put shells into enemy turrets, not spend the whole time aiming down at the ground.

 

Unless the tank is hull-down and can see you anywhere you move, you can just flank them, or go somewhere else and put some shots in their rear. The Russians have stronk steel turret, but the U.S. turrets are much better in terms of armor. T1, M6, M4E2 stock turret with the 105mm, M103, T110E5, T29, T30, T32, T34, the list goes on... for example.

For the Russians only the high-tier heavies and some high-tier meds have great turret armor.



Liviguy #7 Posted 21 September 2017 - 02:12 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 21 September 2017 - 02:08 AM, said:

So you just want to be able to point, fire and damage tanks?

 

Yes, and i bet it makes for a better game, where a lot of these tanks with outrageous turret armour get punished for their gameplay, which doesn't happen now. If im in a heavy tank, i think it is reasonable to be able to put a shell into the turret of a similar tier heavy or med and expect damage to be done.
 

View PostDerethim, on 21 September 2017 - 02:10 AM, said:

 

Unless the tank is hull-down and can see you anywhere you move, you can just flank them, or go somewhere else and put some shots in their rear. The Russians have stronk steel turret, but the U.S. turrets are much better in terms of armor. T1, M6, M4E2 stock turret with the 105mm, M103, T110E5, T29, T30, T32, T34, the list goes on... for example.

For the Russians only the high-tier heavies and some high-tier meds have great turret armor.

 

Russian, American and now they are buffing the turrets of the British tanks, i mean thats half the target  excluded from shooting at. So you end up spending all your time aiming at the ground, which wasn't what i ws hoping for when i started playing the game. IT GETS BORING.
 

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View PostLiviguy, on 21 September 2017 - 02:15 AM, said:

 

Russian, American and now they are buffing the turrets of the British tanks, i mean thats half the target  excluded from shooting at. So you end up spending all your time aiming at the ground, which wasn't what i ws hoping for when i started playing the game. IT GETS BORING.

 

Ever seen one of those non-churchill british heavy turrets?

These things are huge! And paper. They are buffing them, but they'll be far from impenetrable.

 

Dude, just chill. It's just a game. If it was completely fair on both sides, we'd all be playing chess. Calm down and take a break.

You can't pen a turret frontally, you go from the side or the rear. It's simple.

Or you lure the player into the open and attack from multiple sides with your teammates :)

It's simple.



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And I wonder why they overbuff tanks.

 


Jigabachi #10 Posted 21 September 2017 - 03:24 AM

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View PostLiviguy, on 21 September 2017 - 02:15 AM, said:

IT GETS BORING.

Simple solution: Stop playing.



TheLittleGirl #11 Posted 21 September 2017 - 05:30 AM

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It's almost as if protecting the upper structure of a combat vehicle are of priority for reasons that may have to do with basic combat tactics.

Almost as if the idea of exposing as few weak points as possible while exposing the enemies weak points are of tactical advantage.



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View PostTheLittleGirl, on 21 September 2017 - 05:30 AM, said:

It's almost as if protecting the upper structure of a combat vehicle are of priority for reasons that may have to do with basic combat tactics.

Almost as if the idea of exposing as few weak points as possible while exposing the enemies weak points are of tactical advantage.

 

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turrets are the most well protected area of a tank because 80% of the crew are sitting in it.

If you are too bad to aim then play a a different game. in counter strike you can shoot someones head with great effect ;)



Asghaad #14 Posted 21 September 2017 - 06:20 AM

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maybe if you stopped playing just germans with theyr notoriously weak turrets then you wouldnt have such a bad time against soviets ...

 

3200 battles in Tiger 1 isnt just nazi fanboyism, thats obsession ...



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View PostLiviguy, on 21 September 2017 - 02:12 AM, said:

 

Yes, and i bet it makes for a better game, where a lot of these tanks with outrageous turret armour get punished for their gameplay, which doesn't happen now. If im in a heavy tank, i think it is reasonable to be able to put a shell into the turret of a similar tier heavy or med and expect damage to be done.

 

Yes, remove armour. Because it is to hard to use.



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View PostLiviguy, on 21 September 2017 - 03:12 AM, said:

View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 21 September 2017 - 02:08 AM, said:

So you just want to be able to point, fire and damage tanks?

 

Yes, and i bet it makes for a better game, where a lot of these tanks with outrageous turret armour get punished for their gameplay, which doesn't happen now. If im in a heavy tank, i think it is reasonable to be able to put a shell into the turret of a similar tier heavy or med and expect damage to be done.

Say no more, I got just the thing for you.

 



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Because soviet tenk has german crew.



Liviguy #18 Posted 21 September 2017 - 07:32 AM

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View PostAsghaad, on 21 September 2017 - 06:20 AM, said:

maybe if you stopped playing just germans with theyr notoriously weak turrets then you wouldnt have such a bad time against soviets ...

 

3200 battles in Tiger 1 isnt just nazi fanboyism, thats obsession ...

It's a good money maker. I've got 1 day premium account at the moment, but I normally just have a standard account. I've tried to grind my way through the German tree, and to do that and to afford it, I've had to play a lot of games in a few Tanks.

 

View PostZlatanArKung, on 21 September 2017 - 06:29 AM, said:

 

Yes, remove armour. Because it is to hard to use.

Look, I've got an E75 and to try and be competitive I fire some gold. I think it has 311 pen, and yet a lot of Tanks same tier and lower, I can't pen the turret from close / point blank range. To me that's ridiculous.

 

View PostJigabachi, on 21 September 2017 - 03:24 AM, said:

Simple solution: Stop playing.

I'm looking for another game. I had hoped that as I got to the higher tiers, the situation would improve, but it hasn't really.


 

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the higher the tier the better the turrets get. learn to aim for weakspots. or play jp e 100 with 420 heat pen

Liviguy #20 Posted 21 September 2017 - 07:50 AM

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View PostHonoredStone, on 21 September 2017 - 06:01 AM, said:

turrets are the most well protected area of a tank because 80% of the crew are sitting in it.

If you are too bad to aim then play a a different game. in counter strike you can shoot someones head with great effect ;)

My stats are average, but I know how to aim and my hit ratio is around 70%, I think. But it's ridiculous that a heavy, when top tier, even when firing gold, at short range / point blank range in many instances cannot pen so many tanks in this game. It's not just Soviet, as mentioned it's now US tanks, Chinese tanks, Swedish tanks like the Emil2, Jap tanks etc, etc. It's got to the stage where there is hardly anything I can pen unless I hit the lower plate, to me that is ridiculous.


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