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_EXODUZ_ #1 Posted 22 September 2017 - 01:41 AM

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OMG, this thing got overbuffed to hell. Just tried it on a CT - it is INSANE. Jeez this game knows no balance. xDD

 

50 km/h top speed! -10 degrees of gun depression! 8 more shells, better turret traverse and gun dispersion.

 

I think I've found a new line to grind since I'm already done with Brit heavies. :justwait::teethhappy:

 



cro001 #2 Posted 22 September 2017 - 01:43 AM

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Yeah I just tried it on CT. Holy [edited]crap  WG. I kept outrunning Pattons with 1750 alpha. :D

Balc0ra #3 Posted 22 September 2017 - 01:45 AM

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Well it is... I've always thought the mobility buff would be enough alone for it. But everything combined is a bit beastly with a bit more mobility then I wanted it to have. Tho that said, it's CT and still subject to change.... or not.

 

I did feel the same about the Challenger to. It's great with the new gun now, but that speed/turret traverse combo buff is a tad to much.


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ares354 #4 Posted 22 September 2017 - 01:49 AM

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Tier 8 to 10 in this line are broken now. 

You cant buff mobility, gun dep, and soft stats in same time. What will balance those tank ? Bad armor ? Grille 15 line too have bad armor, and crapgun dep on many td. Its just retarded. Im ok with new gun on Challenger,but over 2,5 k dpm on Caernarvon, or crapbuffs like FV 4005 gets...just show that balance team dont play same game as we. 

Balc0ra #5 Posted 22 September 2017 - 02:35 AM

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View Postares354, on 22 September 2017 - 01:49 AM, said:

Tier 8 to 10 in this line are broken now. 

You cant buff mobility, gun dep, and soft stats in same time. What will balance those tank ? Bad armor ? Grille 15 line too have bad armor, and crapgun dep on many td. Its just retarded. Im ok with new gun on Challenger,but over 2,5 k dpm on Caernarvon, or crapbuffs like FV 4005 gets...just show that balance team dont play same game as we. 

 

-10 gun depression seems to be the new "it will fix everything" buff of late. Tier 8 needed it, tier 9 with the big gun did not tbh.

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The new FOTM, I guess. Foch B wasnt enough.

Yes, that feels like a thing. You hardly see many Maus drivers compared to pre-buff. Type 5s aren't in massive numbers either. Might have to do with speed in ranked, but still.

Spurtung #7 Posted 22 September 2017 - 09:26 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 September 2017 - 03:35 AM, said:

 

-10 gun depression seems to be the new "it will fix everything" buff of late. Tier 8 needed it, tier 9 with the big gun did not tbh.

 

Quite the opposite, really.

Tier 8 was good enough already, but tier 9 had very limited gun depression and elevation, it was a pain to grind it just because of those. You basically had to be in a flat location.



Sfinski #8 Posted 22 September 2017 - 10:38 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 22 September 2017 - 10:26 AM, said:

 

Quite the opposite, really.

Tier 8 was good enough already, but tier 9 had very limited gun depression and elevation, it was a pain to grind it just because of those. You basically had to be in a flat location.

Chariteer might have been good before the Skorpion but now they are not even close. Charioteer loses on everything except pen. Dep buff is well deserved.



CoDiGGo #9 Posted 22 September 2017 - 10:41 AM

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Bufff ( $$$) deparment

 

I watched a superunicum stream oneshooting 1-2 tanks min. every game with fv4005, just dont want to imagine this new broken tank, the new most powerfull TD in the game, such toxicity dealer

 

Toxic top: 1.Defender  2. FV4005  3.103-B  4. Type 5  5. Maus


Edited by CoDiGGo, 22 September 2017 - 11:06 AM.


Mimos_A #10 Posted 22 September 2017 - 10:45 AM

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View Postares354, on 22 September 2017 - 01:49 AM, said:

Tier 8 to 10 in this line are broken now. 

You cant buff mobility, gun dep, and soft stats in same time. What will balance those tank ? Bad armor ? Grille 15 line too have bad armor, and crapgun dep on many td. Its just retarded. Im ok with new gun on Challenger,but over 2,5 k dpm on Caernarvon, or crapbuffs like FV 4005 gets...just show that balance team dont play same game as we. 

 

Yeah, it's really annoying that lately they are so keen to buff several stats of a tank in one go. Why not buff one aspect, review how it does and then decide on more possible buffs. Why does every tank have to go from underpowered to completely broken before they make it somewhere in the middle...

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View Postares354, on 22 September 2017 - 12:49 AM, said:

Tier 8 to 10 in this line are broken now. 
 

 

Nonsense. Your anti-British bias is laughable. 

 

Charioteer is not that strong even with the gun depression buff, it's still a 390 alpha TD with terrible bloom. no HP, no premium round, no armour.

Conway's new top gun is trash, bad penetration on the AP, no proper premium round, terrible HESH round that is stupidly expensive and overall terrible bloom. The tank is better with the stock 120mm but very very very far from broken, still has massive bloom, is a massive target with no armour and 400 alpha with 259 pen is poor for a tier 9 TD.

 

Only the FV4005 is over buffed and all they need to do is tone down the mobility IMO, if it went 40kph then it would be fine. 

 



the_Haba #12 Posted 22 September 2017 - 10:58 AM

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Frankly even with all those buffs, after going through Conway I've no energy for yet another trash TD. That one really killed me.

 

Maybe I could use it for doing TD-2-4.

 

But other than that, there really is no way to fix sh*tbarn. Paper tank size of a barn at tier 10.



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WG simply does not have any kind of moderation when balancing tanks, they either completly overbuff some tanks screwing the rest or they try to sell miniscule buffs as game changing

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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 September 2017 - 02:35 AM, said:

 

-10 gun depression seems to be the new "it will fix everything" buff of late. Tier 8 needed it, tier 9 with the big gun did not tbh.

 

Seems about right. THeir current balancing department is as incompetent as it always has been :( Sad story but lets not lie to ourselfs. What did we expect?

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View PostSfinski, on 22 September 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:

Chariteer might have been good before the Skorpion but now they are not even close. Charioteer loses on everything except pen. Dep buff is well deserved.

 

Shell speed is quite different too, no?

Obsessive_Compulsive #16 Posted 22 September 2017 - 12:04 PM

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bout phookin time brits got something to make people who dont cry.. phook you all get heshed bobs.

 

Right that felt good. What I meant to say was I am quite pleased that the barn has been given some love.. and if that love leans towards the OP so much the better!



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View PostSpurtung, on 22 September 2017 - 09:26 AM, said:

 

Quite the opposite, really.

Tier 8 was good enough already, but tier 9 had very limited gun depression and elevation, it was a pain to grind it just because of those. You basically had to be in a flat location.

 

Tier 9 could have it on the 120... not the new 140 IMO. Vs the other way around like now.


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Rati_Festa #18 Posted 22 September 2017 - 01:23 PM

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All this crap about incoming OP British tanks. Most of the TDS are probably in the bottom 3 in there respective tiers at the moment. The Conway and the Fv4005 are horrendous in the current game meta. We all know they are useless in current state as they are so rare in current game ( prior to announcement of buffs ). I grinded the FV4005 line last year... it was painful and expensive.

 

Can't wait to see the new improved versions in game... :) Bring on the DOOMBARN :P


Edited by Rati_Festa, 22 September 2017 - 01:25 PM.


Lomion_EU #19 Posted 22 September 2017 - 01:29 PM

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View Postthe_Haba, on 22 September 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

Frankly even with all those buffs, after going through Conway I've no energy for yet another trash TD. That one really killed me.

 

Maybe I could use it for doing TD-2-4.

 

But other than that, there really is no way to fix sh*tbarn. Paper tank size of a barn at tier 10.

 

Although it's not a paper tank - prototype actually existed.  Unlike many other t10 td's *cough* JPZE100 *cough*


Edited by Lomion_EU, 22 September 2017 - 01:32 PM.


Shaade_Silentpaw #20 Posted 22 September 2017 - 01:36 PM

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What's the problem?

People seem to be completely ignoring the fact that it still has a 30 second base reload time and a train carriage made of tinfoil for a turret.






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