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tumppi776 #1 Posted 22 September 2017 - 05:45 AM

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I am surprised. I hadn't thinked that a fast autoloader could actually be so low in comparison.

 

Worst being FV.

 

Every other TX heavy was buffed considerably (well fv gets nuked). But AMX 50 B stays the same? Even the matchmaker changed to 50% flat TX.

 

Consider FV gets removed - which TX in your opinion is worse than 50 B - or is there any?

 



Sfinski #2 Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:11 AM

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FV is better than the new super congueror so it kinda becomes better. =P

Uebergewicht #3 Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:16 AM

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It´s also better than the IS-4.

Gotma #4 Posted 22 September 2017 - 07:28 AM

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50b bad, n1.

It was buffed a while back btw, having 10° gun depression now. 50b is a beast.

leggasiini #5 Posted 22 September 2017 - 08:03 AM

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AMX 50 B is indeed not as good as it used to be but its still great, just very hard to play. And no, its not the 2nd worst T10 HT. I dunno why you ignored the IS-4 which obviously is worse than the AMX 50 B and also quite easily the worst tier 10 HT. The Kranvagn, Panzer VII, 215b and probably the E5 are also worse than the 50B.

 

It still has excellent mobility + 4x autoloader with good gun handling + -10 depression + APCR. I didnt really enjoy it but it doesnt mean that it isnt good, because I see players who know actually how to play it do reaally well.


Edited by leggasiini, 22 September 2017 - 08:05 AM.


tajj7 #6 Posted 22 September 2017 - 10:41 AM

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Not sure you can compare it to heavies, it's a fast autoloader. The Kranvagn, T57 and 50b all have their own weaknesses and strengths, don't think any single tank is bad. 

WindSpIitter1 #7 Posted 22 September 2017 - 02:38 PM

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50b is [edited]good you heathen. Git gud. Any and all problems it has is with armor powercreep which can easily be solved by just spamming APCR(which is literally better in every single way) and cutting through everything with an actually good shell velocity for once.

 

Git. [edited]. gud.


Edited by HeathLedger_, 22 September 2017 - 02:38 PM.


Gavrilac #8 Posted 25 September 2017 - 06:52 AM

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I rarely see any AMX 50B in the game! I have seen much more IS4 and FV. That means players doesn’t enjoy playing AMX 50B...

Besides top of the tree,  Wg should give small monthly bonuses for playing other 2 TX rarely played tanks. 



shishx_the_animal #9 Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:14 AM

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Autoloader with 10 degrees of gun depression is bad mkay. Lol, thanks for making this coffee taste better by adding OPs tears. <3

Edited by shishx_the_animal, 25 September 2017 - 07:14 AM.


tumppi776 #10 Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:17 AM

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View PostHeathLedger_, on 22 September 2017 - 01:38 PM, said:

50b is [edited]good you heathen. Git gud. Any and all problems it has is with armor powercreep which can easily be solved by just spamming APCR(which is literally better in every single way) and cutting through everything with an actually good shell velocity for once.

 

Git. [edited]. gud.

 

Thats propably it. Running Standard account - so -50k games dont appeal to me. Basically AP only.

 

I admit their my problems - the tank is propably super OP fantastic winning machine I just cant play it.

 

My problems:

 

Mobility - yes its fast but damn that ground resistance makes it accelerate slowly

 

Arty - still getting penned like before arty rework

 

Camo - for a Huge Edited tank with no armor - there should be some camo atleast - but its worst of the worst with good crew and paint. If youre not out of 445m youre getting spotted.

 

Gung handling - when theres no survivability its all about the gun - but no it gets the job done only barely. With this level of armor and hitpoints your engament range should be mid to long. But the gun cant handle long.

 

View Postshishx_the_animal, on 25 September 2017 - 06:14 AM, said:

Autoloader with 10 degrees of gun depression is bad mkay. Lol, thanks for making this coffee taste better by adding OPs tears. <3

 

Were not all Holier than thou Godly Gods of WoT you know. Like you clearly are.

 

Edited  :trollface:

 

And to top it. I did even write it was bad. I wrote its 2nd worst (but ok - maybe 3rd worst).


 

Edited by Asklepi0s, 25 September 2017 - 10:41 AM.
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shishx_the_animal #11 Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:21 AM

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View Posttumppi776, on 25 September 2017 - 06:19 AM, said:

 

Were not all Holier than thou Godly Gods of WoT you know. Like you clearly are.

 

Edited :trollface:

 

At least I'm not making whiny topics about not handling a particular tank. Have you tried not playing it and focusing on tanks you actually like?

Edited by Asklepi0s, 25 September 2017 - 10:42 AM.


UrQuan #12 Posted 25 September 2017 - 07:25 AM

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Just keep in mind, some tanks are harder to play, yet can still be awesome tanks that can wreck stuff. It all depends on how well you play & how forgiving the tank is.

Tanks like AMX 50B are very unforgiving, the smallest mistake will cost you dearly. So to get the most out of it, you must minimize the amount of mistakes you do in it, without turning into a redline camper. This is generally a skill-set mastered by very good players in the game.

 

Please avoid the trap of 'I'm not good in this tank! Tank sucks! Buff it!' Think deeper. Are you using tactics/plays in it that could be subpar for this specific tank? If so, perhaps check out replays/ask advice from people who are used playing the tank & can give you pointers in becoming good in it as well.



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View Posttumppi776, on 25 September 2017 - 06:19 AM, said:

 

Were not all Holier than thou Godly Gods of WoT you know. Like you clearly are.

 

Edited :trollface:

 

Okay here we go:

- Work those ridgelines, peak and shoot is the name of the game. The best thing is you have good depression and you unload those 4 shells over the hill. Go back to safely reload and surprise them from another angle

- Best thing is tracking cornering heavies and putting 3 more into them and retreating

- Never go alone, you only have 4 shells

- Don't really believe you get so easily penned in it, I play it from time to time and they do considerable less damage

- Never go alone

- Patience is the key for this tank since everyone can pen it

- Always and I really mean always check if you can retreat nicely towards a teammate when you empty your clip. There's nothing nastier than getting caught while reloading

- The biggest strength of this tank is the endgame so you should preserve HP. You chew those oneshots apart with fine grace and write "gg ez" in the chat

 

As UrQuan said, it's unforgiving (like all autoloaders but people don't want to hear that ofc) but good an absolute beast when you get used to it. You'll just need to adjust to the heavy meta and figure out the playstyle.

 

Good luck my fellow forumite whom I love and respect but teased a little bit <3


Edited by shishx_the_animal, 25 September 2017 - 11:59 AM.
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hiXhaX #14 Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:10 AM

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I guess the best way to learn how to play the 50B is playing the 50 100 as it is even less forgiving, has a lot worse gun handling and takes a lot longer to unload.

How you should play it has been said by shishx



uglycousin #15 Posted 25 September 2017 - 08:50 AM

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I have the tier 9 and I absolutely love it. Cannot wait to get the 50Bees but that will take a while as I only get the daily bonus XP on it while focusing other lines.

 

Like the others above clearly explained it, it requires a certain playstile. You do that and you are Gucci. :)

 

 



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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 25 September 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

 

Okay here we go:

- Work those ridgelines, peak and shoot is the name of the game. The best thing is you have good depression and you unload those 4 shells over the hill. Go back to safely reload and surprise them from another angle

- Best thing is tracking cornering heavies and putting 3 more into them and retreating

- Never go alone, you only have 4 shells

- Don't really believe you get so easily penned in it, I play it from time to time and they do considerable less damage

- Never go alone

- Patience is the key for this tank since everyone can pen it

- Always and I really mean always check if you can retreat nicely towards a teammate when you empty your clip. There's nothing nastier than getting caught while reloading

- The biggest strength of this tank is the endgame so you should preserve HP. You chew those oneshots apart with fine grace and write "gg ez" in the chat

 

As UrQuan said, it's unforgiving (like all autoloaders but people don't want to hear that ofc) but good an absolute beast when you get used to it. You'll just need to adjust to the heavy meta and figure out the playstyle.

 

Good luck s#!tter

 

Thx! Why didn't you write this in the 1st post instead of flaming my noob [edited]:-)

Edited by tumppi776, 25 September 2017 - 08:58 AM.


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View Posttumppi776, on 25 September 2017 - 08:58 AM, said:

 

Thx! Why didn't you write this in the 1st post instead of flaming my noob [edited]:-)

 

Likely because you started your topic as a classic whine-post? People do get tired of such things after a while. Also, most complainers/whiners are not interested in advice & just look for folks that support their claim.

Much better would been an opening post where you asked for advice on playing the AMX 50B instead of claiming 'This tank is bad because I cannot play it!' Attitude in posting a new thread is important after all (something people forget). You give a baseless whine, you get majorly snarky/jerky responses. Start a constructive thread & people will be more willing to help out constructively.

 

But now you got advice :great: I wish you a good journey & more fun with the AMX 50B.



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View Posttumppi776, on 25 September 2017 - 07:58 AM, said:

 

Thx! Why didn't you write this in the 1st post instead of flaming my noob [edited]:-)

 

Because you didn't ask for tips at the beginning you dirty scrub! ^^

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 25 September 2017 - 06:28 AM, said:

 

- Best thing is tracking cornering heavies and putting 3 more into them and retreating

 

just this - makes me lol everytime i bait one

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I was doing crapin my 50 100 until I discovered that if you have a clear retreat while reloading (and thus never put yourself in a position where you can't get away anymore) you will be a beast. And *poof* WR skyrocketed in that tank, it's *that* simple.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 25 September 2017 - 10:53 AM.





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